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SECTION 11
RICHARD WOLFF ON DONALD TRUMP'S
CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT IMMIGRATION\

Version 1 ... February 2025

  • deporting immigrants in Sonia you know the secondary consequences here ought to
  • make any rational government
  • stop and the fact that this government isn't stopping well draw the
  • conclusion let me try to illustrate the the contradictions

  • 1:20:10
  • Richard on Donald Trump’s Contradictions About Immigration
  • internal craziness of what is being proposed and I'm going to do that in two
  • ways I'm going to use what we in economics call supply and demand
  • analysis I'm very simple-minded uh approach we teach students as a
  • beginning to understanding economics and then I'm going to also use the marxian economics idea of
  • surplus which gives you insights that the supply and demand apparatus uh
  • doesn't Okay the President
  • says and has already in the first weeks of his administ rtion Illustrated
  • dramatically that he is going to deport

  • 1:21:04
  • undocumented immigrants of which the Homeland
  • Security Department of this country says we have somewhere around 12 million 10
  • to 15 million somewhere in there okay let's take a look at what
  • this might mean mostly these are undocumented
  • immigrants are young people of working age yes some of them bring children when
  • they come but most don't and some of them bring their elderly but most
  • don't these are young men and women who can travel through the desert and take
  • the hardships that are involved in coming here for many
  • so they arrive here and they take the worst

  • 1:22:05
  • jobs and by worse jobs I don't just mean those that are poorly paid although
  • that's the majority of them I mean jobs that are
  • dangerous jobs that are irregular jobs for
  • employers that are highly unscrupulous much of the
  • time and the reason they have those jobs is because unlike a native born worker
  • they will never go to the police to complain if they're made to work without
  • protective gear or they're made to work too many hours or they are made to work
  • without being given the pay that they were promised or when they undertook the job employers know that they can get
  • away with this cuz they've been doing that forever for time in Memorial which

  • 1:23:06
  • means that the The Immigrant is particularly profitable as
  • an employee because you can rip them off basically and that's one of the reasons
  • that the United States has always welcomed employees because the employers
  • knew you could do things with them you couldn't otherwise I could go on you also cram
  • these people into the worst neighborhoods with the lousiest housing again because they cannot and
  • will not complain they will not demand what is
  • legally available to them for fear that it will blow their cover and they will
  • be hassled by the police the police don't treat them very well again for the
  • same reasons and so on so I'm not going to mention what it

  • 1:24:05
  • means to Target these people many of whom have spent years at
  • the bottom of the jobs pyramid in the United States what it means exactly ethically
  • or morally to pick them up off the
  • street put them in shackles which is being done now and dropping them in
  • Mexico or Colombia or wherever you you can impose that there how this
  • squares with Christian Jewish Muslim or any other
  • religious system I know of I leave to the mysteries of our human beings are
  • are religious uh extraordinary but I'm not going to focus on that here's the supply

  • 1:25:02
  • and demand you are reducing the supply
  • of labor you're literally taking people who had offered and delivered labor effort
  • brains and muscles eight hours a day or more across the United States millions
  • of them are being withdrawn from the labor market so the supply of workers is
  • being cut you know if you're G to get rid of 10 million people it's going to make an
  • impact on the other hand you're going to impose
  • tariffs meaning that Goods produced
  • abroad will no longer purchased by Americans because they become more
  • expensive Mr Trump has said and by the time this airs he may well have imposed

  • 1:26:05
  • 25% tariffs on both Canadian and Mexican goods and again I'm not that's what he
  • said and and he had he had promised to do that earlier so did it
  • consistent um that violates the treaties that were initially signed by
  • Mr Clinton the NAFTA and then Rewritten and resigned by Trump himself in his first
  • presidency with a new name but it's basically a common market between the United States Canada of the north Mexico
  • to the South and it meant it meant that Goods could move between them without
  • tax no tax being applied by any of the three countries to any of the other he's
  • abrogating that he's not having a conference to discuss it he's not having meetings with the leadership to talk he

  • 1:27:02
  • unilaterally abrogating which is the politest way you can put this violating
  • would be another term this treaty with our two
  • neighbors interesting move MH I'm not going to talk about that I'm going to assume it goes through in one form or
  • another the United States is the major market for both of those
  • countries therefore this is a big blow to them because they're going to see the
  • demand for their exports to the United States drop because an American has to
  • pay his own government the American government the Tariff the tax and that makes it more expensive in the matter I
  • just went through with the electric car from China so it's gonna hurt them and
  • and Mr Trump never discusses the hurt done to
  • them deals with them as if they're bad bad people and says this is all done because

  • 1:28:04
  • they allow fentel to come for through their countries into the United States
  • notice the bad guy is the one who allows the the movement not the country to which the
  • movement is directed because Americans buy and consume that stuff on a record
  • level nope none of that interesting no Mr Trump
  • says it's also he admits to resore America right because if it's too
  • expensive to bring the OB object from Canada in or from Mexico in the hope is
  • the Hope is that the producer will come back to the United
  • States make it inside because then there's no tariff it's applicable all right I'm not going to
  • discuss the obvious and I'm glad you're smiling because it really is childishly obvious

  • 1:29:07
  • that a a producer in Canada or Mexico
  • would be nuts to come here right away because he doesn't know how long Mr
  • Trump will stay with this policy he doesn't know whether it'll Disappear With when Mr Trump disappear appears so
  • and it's very expensive so we also don't know whether the company affected like this will leave
  • Mexico and go across its Southern border into Guatemala another place which doesn't have a tariff but then it can't
  • risk doing that because Mr Trump will put the Tariff on against Guatemalan
  • Goods so let's assume that some some reassuring takes by some
  • companies at the margin will come in to the United States and produce here at

  • 1:30:00
  • home the ostensible goal and purpose of all of this that would mean an increase in the
  • demand for labor because those companies instead of hiring Mexican and Canadian
  • workers by coming back would be hiring American War which is the ostensible
  • purpose okay let supply of labor is going down and the demand for labor is
  • going up what is that supposed to do with demand and Supply analysis answer
  • it's going to raise wages a lot why because you can't rip
  • off American Born workers the way you rip the so you're going to have to pay
  • wages you never thought you'd have to so wages will go up in the United

  • 1:31:00
  • States whoa now let's take it two more steps and we're
  • done why would capitalists Across America who supported mys
  • Trump welcome that the cost of Labor is
  • going up and eating into their profits see
  • contradiction but we're not done because when Mr Trump imposes a tariff one of
  • the results the textbooks are full of this is called
  • retaliation other countries can put tariffs just like we can which means
  • American companies who export are going to have the same problem they're not
  • going to have a market the way they used to because the other the countries retaliate they put a tariff on goods
  • from America and they and they've said it if you take if you tariff us we will

  • 1:32:01
  • retaliate so the companies will have higher wages to pay and why they can't
  • sell the way they used to that's a onew punch right in the nose of the employer
  • class they're the ones who gave him the job that's not his job in their minds
  • how's he going to handle what I just described what what not only that but if
  • you put a tariff and the prices go up what the literature teaches is that
  • the protected companies the ones who like it that you put a tariffs so your Canadian competitor can't compete with
  • you anymore and your Mexican competitor can't what you induce the American say
  • great I ra my prices cuz even if I raise them 10% they've stuck the Canadians
  • with 25% tariff everyone's going to have to pay me my 10% more because still

  • 1:33:01
  • better than the alternative they can get you know what that means they're going to get an
  • inflation is it possible that other things which I don't have the time but I if you want to we can go there that
  • other things will neutralize what I just said that's possible that's what I meant by a Hail Mary pass what he's doing is
  • ridiculous economically and so maybe his rejoiner
  • or someone who's smarter than him might be able to do is to say yes but if this
  • this and this and this happen well that and that's possible it's always possible
  • it's not the logical thing to expect and to expect it from someone who
  • never mentions any of these things even though as I hope I've showed you they're
  • as simple as I apple pie there are no mystery here there's nothing complicated
  • and the literature about these things is full of all of this not a word of what I
  • just said with to you is original to me not at all so all I can tell you is with this
  • level of contradiction at the basis of what is being proposed here you're
  • looking at a really strange phenomena unfolding

  • The Marxist Truth About Why Immigrants Are a Gift to the United States
  • 1:34:24
  • now let me show you from another from a marxian economics perspective another remarkable thing
  • which also touches American history and which I'm really interested in conveying
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