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SECTION 10
DONALD TRUMP'S HUGE MISUNDERSTANDING
ABOUT TARIFFS
Version 1 ... February 2025
- 1:13:07
- other American workers but I can tell you as a mathematical Economist we
- cannot know whether the jobs we protect in the automobile industry won't be
- overwhelmed by the jobs we lose as a result of this tariff
- 1:13:25
- Donald Trump’s Huge Misunderstanding About Tariffs
- okay we live in a society which I may Jump Ahead in the in our conversation in which we allow a
- president to do two remarkable Mr Trump two remarkable thing one to constantly
- Miss speak about tffs by now it's intentional because I'm
- going to hit the Chinese Chinese people don't pay our tariffs we do the Tariff
- is a tax on Imports all right that means the
- Republican party for a hundred years the party advocating tax cuts has become
- 1:14:07
- overnight a party championing taxes namely tariffs that really ought to make
- people what's going on here but he slides out from that by
- having large numbers of Americans all the polls show it think that the Tariff
- is paid by the people over there non-american it isn't no is real simple
- it isn't but number two he never tells you what are
- the you know how do I put this what are the negatives what are the side effects
- of a tariff now tariffs have been around for centuries there is an immense
- literature in economics about tariffs there's nothing new about it there's is
- nothing unheard of if you spend if you take a course in in international trade
- 1:15:01
- in any economics program that I'm familiar with and I'm familiar with a lot of them I've taught this materal you
- teach it there's an segment of the course about tariffs and what you do is you teach when are tariffs used what do
- they achieve what are the problems what are the negative and positive and
- they're both side effects but we have have a president who talks about this is
- a winwin winwin situation this is moronic it doesn't understand the
- literature which never says that it doesn't understand even what it is doing
- and it's a continual fooling of the people into thinking that you know we're
- going to resore you know bring industry back because when they make it too expensive for them to yes there'll be
- some of that but there'll be all these other things which the literature is full of because it's these are lessons
- 1:16:00
- that have been learned by people who did this all of this is magied away it's
- it's a stunning and you know that Mr Trump he doesn't understand it it's
- clear to me because if he did the level of lying I maybe he's capable of it but
- I'll give him the benefit that I find that hard to understand but that the me New York Times and the
- others you know Paul Krugman writes for the New York Times he's a Nobel PR and
- his specialty is international he knows come on and many many like him
- know what but there's this America and that's the again the legacy of the Cold
- War you don't get even this weird Trump
- character because these are often liberals that I'm like they they can't bring
- 1:17:00
- themselves to be reasonably critical that may change but for the moment I'm
- I'm here explaining the economics of tariffs to
- people I do it all the time because they ask all the time and they're all you should see them in the audiences you
- know they're all that that's because I'm telling them something that they don't
- know and that's not their fault that should be what what are you doing is why
- are you doing a tariff when you know that yes you will protect the jobs of
- the immediately affected but there are all these other con
- what it's like announcing I'm taking over the Panama Canal you can't do that
- because of the ramifications what do what are you you been denouncing Mr Putin for 3 years that he invaded
- another country and took something that isn't his you just announced you're going to do that what what do you think
- 1:18:06
- that do has you don't have to worry you just m the tough gu stop this isn't
- serious but with him this
- exaggerated Bluster got in the election because it's a naughty boy and he's
- being a naughty again and the whole world is more naughty and it
- works but man those negative side effects they
- don't go away because you pretend they're not there that's like the little child and I did this with you I'm sure
- the little three-year-old confronts the scary doggy in the park and he or she
- puts their little hands in front of their eyes because they think if they can't see the dog it won't be there
- but by the time they're four or five years old they have learned the lesson you can do that the doggy is still there
- 1:19:02
- Mr Trump and this country are engaged in levels of denial that I look at and I go
- wow what is going on in a society that would do this what why self-d delude what what
- what possible and if we as I believe or I hope we do talk about the internal
- contradictions of the economic program of Mr Trump then you'll see that this
- this is what I've just told you it's all over the place not just with tariffs but with
- deporting immigrants in Sonia you know the secondary consequences here ought to
- make any rational government
- stop and the fact that this government isn't stopping well draw the
- 1:20:03
- conclusion let me try to illustrate the the contradictions
- Richard on Donald Trump’s Contradictions About Immigration
- 1:20:10
- internal craziness of what is being proposed and I'm going to do that in two
- ways I'm going to use what we in economics call supply and demand
- analysis I'm very simple-minded uh approach we teach students as a
- beginning to understanding economics and then I'm going to also use the marxian economics idea of
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