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THE SOCIO-ENVIRO-ECONOMIC SYSTEM (SEES)
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SECTION 1
INTRODUCTION
Version 1 ... February 2025
- Introduction
- 0:00
- he didn't sit down with the head of Panama to discuss the canal or the head of Denmark to disc he announced he
- announced and he's made a career out of being the Naughty Boy and the working
- class loves it because they felt abandoned which they had been the
- Democrats are as responsible for Mr Trump as anybody else and Mr Trump won
- because he managed this symbolism very well I am naughty I am not of that
- establishment I hate them like you
- do we last spoke on the show a few months ago just before the 2024 election
- and at the time the crucial word you used to describe Donald Trump was
- irrelevant and I believe you should correct me if I'm mistaken that the point there was
- 1:06
- that he was just going to be some sort of blip in history and I'm wondering if
- now in 2025 you're still feeling that he's
- irrelevant yep I am I don't think
- that uh I don't think he has a clue I'm
- I'm mostly Amazed by the collection of people he has brought with
- him because I don't I wait for somebody in that group and that that may still
- emerge but I wait for somebody who seems to me at least to have a
- sense of a strategic perspective that understands
- the basic problems and comes up with a plan of how to deal with it I'm not expecting a plan
- 2:01
- that's foolproof a plan that can't fail nothing like that but just a kind of
- coherent assessment of what the problems are connected to a coherent plan the the
- economic problems faced by the United States now are incredible in their
- multiplicity in the their seriousness in how many of the problems have not been
- addressed for a long time uh but I don't see other than verbiage
- the verbiage is endless sort of an explosion of verbiage but I don't see it
- so I don't think whatever he does is going to make much of a difference to
- what's going on here and there will have impact horrible in some cases perhaps
- beneficial in others but as a comprehensive assessment of the problem and the strategy well I don't see it and
- 3:01
- so I my conclusion is that the hodge podge of policies and that's what it is
- a hodge podge of mutually contradictory weird
- proposals that are much more two things continuations of what
- worked for him as a candidate plus doubling
- down on where he got himself into trouble seems to if I can discern a
- strategy that's it what worked to get me in should work to keep me going a big
- mistake and doubling down where I didn't succeed before or where I've been P got
- push back doesn't strike me as a brilliant move either it's a kind of mechanical response to somebody who
- hopes that this approach will somehow work people have been asking me and and
- 4:00
- the image I like is Donald Trump was told that there is this thing in
- football called a Hail Mary pass that's when the the quarterback in a tough
- situation just leans back and Hees the ball downfield as far as possible tells
- his uh Confederates on the team those that are responsible go into this
- direction go to the left corner let's hope you're where the ball comes down or where it bounces into your and
- you know sometimes that works is it possible that what Mr Trump does will
- actually produce the outcome he tells us it will sure it's it's not a zero
- possibility but then we don't miss Mr Trump because that's almost true for anybody who would certainly would have
- been true for Mr Biden or kamla Harris or anybody else it's not a coherent and
- I'd be glad to explain how and why that is but it is it's a strange
- 5:05
- amalgam of contradictions and the only reason I
- have to say that is because the media in this country want
- to give him as a new president or a returned president the benefit of the doubt or maybe some leway or the first
- 100 days this and so they don't do what they should do I think that will
- change as the impacts of what he does become clearer but for the moment no you
- said a lot of things that I want to get back to such as this hodg podge of strategies and and his cabinet picks but
- was stepping back for a moment one of the things that I've really come to enjoy doing on the show Even though many
- listeners seem to hate it is discuss both sides of an issue and so my last
- 6:03
- interview was with Victor Davis Hansen of the Hoover institution and we talked about Trump and the election and what to
- expect going forward and that's one of the topics that you and I are going to discuss before I tell you some of the
- things he thought which I expect you might disagree with I would hope so I am
- curious to hear why you think after the fact now Trump won the election and
- Harris lost Harris made a strategic choice to be the
- continuation of Joe Biden I understand what many of the considerations were
- that led her to make that decision and when I say her I mean the Entourage
- around her that helps her make strategic decisions uh which all candidates have
- and I think you know if I had to pick a single thing what the American people
- 7:04
- want is change an awful lot of them want change and Mr Trump not by the programs
- he comes up with so much but the Bluster the The Bullying the the over-the-top
- language the the endless symbolism and so conla Harris undercuts
- this by in insisting Under Pressure that she
- is the continuation of Joseph Biden that was a mistake Biden was nothing Biden
- was same old same old you know B and by that I don't mean Democrat you know it's
- like George Bush or Clinton or Obama it's just it's it's
- what a majority of Americans in different ways and for different reasons
- they don't want more of that they want something than else and I think you know
- 8:02
- in a country like ours which has its cold war Legacy which I would Define as
- follows a liberal consensus on both sides the kind of
- moderate Republicans and the usual Democrats um moving steadily to the
- right both of them in the aftermath of the Great Depression in a program I
- would call the UN doing of the New Deal which they did together um what the lesson was to the
- How the Left Can Defeat Donald Trump
- 8:35
- mass of people is there is an establishment we have Tweedle Dum and
- Tweedle D we oscillate between the Republican and the Democrat nothing much changes and if you do want to change the
- only allowable place is to go to the right because the left was anathema the
- left was evil we had had we had a purge of people on the left after World War II
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