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CANADA ABOUT CANADA / US RELATIONS TVO Today: Should Snowbirds Skip the U.S. This Year? Original article:
Should Snowbirds Skip the U.S. This Year? \| TVO Today Live TVO Today Oct 30, 2025 341K subscribers ... 58,380 views ... 1.1K likes #ElbowsUp After months cross border tension trade disruption that's hurt core Ontario industries, 'Buy Canadian' and #ElbowsUp urges people to steer clear of American products and the United States itself as a travel destination. But as the chill of cold weather approaches, what about Canadians who spend the winter months in the US? They add billions to the U.S. economy, own homes and apartments, and contribute in many ways to those local economies. Should they vote with their feet and dollars and stay away? Or is that too much, since the U.S. remains a longstanding friend and ally? Recorded with an engaged, live audience at the Upper Canada Mall in Newmarket Ontario, Steve Paikin talks to special guests Current affairs commentator and host Laura Babcock, and former Ontario MPP and broadcaster Peter Shurman about whether Snowbirds should bypass the U.S. this season. 00:00 – Intro 00:24 – Topic: Should snowbirds skip the U.S. this winter? 02:04 – Quick poll: Should Canadians boycott U.S. travel? 03:04 – How many here are snowbirds? 03:27 – Expert intro: Stephen Fine from Snowbird Advisor 03:46 – What is a typical snowbird? 04:11 – Popular destinations for snowbirds 04:24 – Are snowbirds planning to boycott? 05:02 – Impact of a 10–15% decline in U.S. travel 05:36 – Laura’s opening argument: Safety, Signal, Solidarity 08:13 – Peter’s counterpoint: Personal experience as a snowbird 10:55 – Family ties and social reasons for going south 12:02 – Debate: Is this just a political “tiff”? 13:01 – Trade war and sovereignty concerns 14:06 – Alternatives to U.S. destinations 15:03 – Audience comment: Mayor of Newmarket weighs in 17:20 – Sacrifices and Canadian solidarity 19:26 – Peter’s perspective on family priorities 20:09 – Audience poll: Has anyone traveled since Trump? 25:04 – Border issues and biometrics explained 27:48 – Expert clarification on U.S. entry requirements 33:00 – Laura’s response: Why this isn’t “normal” 34:00 – Follow the money: Economic impact stats 37:16 – Debate on sovereignty vs. economics 39:30 – Audience poll: Florida and blue states 43:21 – Loyalty tests? Should friendships be affected? 46:01 – Gavin Newsom’s invitation to Canadians 49:02 – Nashville story: Free speech concerns 52:34 – Audience comments: Division and optimism 58:29 – Closing thoughts: Protecting sovereignty 1:03:04 – Final audience poll: Should snowbirds skip U.S.? 1:06:30 – Call to action: Talk about it, fight for democracy TVO Today Live is an Ontario-based event series that convenes important discussions on the future of democracy. Guests include politicians, journalists and prominent public figures. This initiative is made possible through the support of The Wilson Foundation, whose mission is to strengthen and enrich Canada in education leadership, community, history and heritage, and public service. Learn more about TVO Today Live at https://tvo.me/TVO-Today-Live/ and sign up for email updates to get the latest information Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess Transcript

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