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Tonnage Tsunami: Can Ports Withstand the Ultra-Large Containership Surge? What's Going on With Shipping? October 30, 2025 561K subscribers ... 343,196 views ... 8K likes What's Going on With Shipping - Maritime Industry Today Ultra Large Surge In this episode, Sal Mercogliano — a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner — discusses the expected surge in Ultra-Large Containerships (those over 18,000 TEUs) and what this means for ports and the supply chain. #supplychain #shipping #containerships Support What's Going on With Shipping via: Patreon: www.patreon.com/wgowshipping Twitter: @mercoglianos Bluesky: @mercoglianos.bsky.social Facebook: @wgowshipping Email: mercoglianosal@gmail.com Tonnage tsunami: can ports withstand the ULC surge? https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1155280/... Martin Stopford, Maritime Economics https://archive.org/details/maritime-... The Geography of Transport Systems https://transportgeography.org/ Explore the podcast
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  • 0:00
  • On this episode of What's Going On with
  • Shipping, ultra-large container ships
  • are surging into the world's ports. I'm
  • your host, Sal Maglaniano. Welcome to
  • today's episode. So, back in February of
  • 2024, I did this video. Why no ships to
  • the United States? This was referring to
  • ultra-large container ships, ships
  • greater than 16,000
  • TEU or 20 foot equivalent units. Most
  • containers you see are 40footers, FEUs.
  • But the specific issue here was the
  • diversion that was happening due to the
  • Houthis sending container ships around
  • the Cape of Good Hope. And what you see
  • here very pronounced in this image is
  • how the ultra-large container ships are
  • sailing almost exclusively from Asia to
  • Europe. And I broke it down in that
  • video. However, we have this story that
  • just came out from Lloyd's list. Linton
  • Nightingale tonnage tsunami. Can ports
  • withstand the ULC surge? Ultra-large
  • container ships in service are set to
  • double within the next 5 years, many

  • 1:02
  • exceeding 18,000 TEUs. Vessels cascading
  • 1:05
  • will push an increasing number of
  • 1:07
  • midsize ships into mediary trades,
  • 1:10
  • overwhelming the secondary ports, and
  • 1:12
  • port infrastructure is struggling to
  • 1:14
  • keep pace with vessel growth. Earth
  • 1:16
  • theft, train reach, and yard space are
  • 1:18
  • under strain. I think it's time we go
  • 1:20
  • back and look at this story and break it
  • 1:22
  • down. So, if you're new to the channel,
  • 1:24
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  • and hit the bell so be alerted about new
  • 1:27
  • videos as they come out. Now, first,
  • 1:29
  • let's define what we mean by ultra large
  • 1:32
  • containership. This chart is from Jean
  • 1:34
  • Paul Rodrigue and his transport
  • 1:36
  • geography. I'll have the link below so
  • 1:38
  • you can take a look at it. What Jean
  • 1:40
  • Paul has looked at here is the evolution
  • 1:42
  • and growth of container ships. And he
  • 1:44
  • breaks them down into six kind of
  • 1:46
  • distinct groups. First, you have the
  • 1:49
  • very early container ships. These are
  • 1:50
  • ships carrying several hundred to just a
  • 1:52
  • few thousand container ships. But by the
  • 1:56
  • 1980s, we reached a kind of a plateau
  • 1:59
  • there. This was known as the Panamax

  • 2:00
  • vessels. These were the ships that were
  • 2:02
  • the biggest that could go through the
  • 2:04
  • Panama Canal. Uh initially, it was
  • 2:06
  • around 3,000 TEU, but through some
  • 2:08
  • changes of hull form, able to get the
  • 2:10
  • ships up to about 4500 TEU. Then in the
  • 2:14
  • late 80s, there was a decision made,
  • 2:16
  • maybe we just don't go through the
  • 2:17
  • Panama Canal. And so they build what was
  • 2:19
  • called the post panamax. And once you go
  • 2:21
  • post panamax, really the size is the
  • 2:24
  • limit here. You can go any as big as you
  • 2:26
  • want. And what we saw was ships jump
  • 2:28
  • from 6,000 TEU up to 8,500 TEU. Then in
  • 2:32
  • the early 2000s, Marque started off this
  • 2:35
  • kind of arms race of containers ship
  • 2:38
  • construction with the Maris Sclass. And
  • 2:42
  • what you have is a ship that can carry
  • 2:43
  • almost 11,000 TEU. Then in the mid2010s
  • 2:48
  • they unveiled the triple E. These are
  • 2:51
  • the ultra-large container ships. These
  • 2:53
  • are over 18,000 TEU. And then by the end
  • 2:56
  • of the 2010s we got the Megaax 24s.

  • 3:00
  • These are the ships capable of carrying
  • 3:01
  • anywhere from 21,000 to 25,000 TEUs.
  • 3:06
  • Just just absolutely massive. 24
  • 3:09
  • containers across in 24 bays stacked 25
  • 3:13
  • high. uh just absolute behemoths. And
  • 3:16
  • then we actually retrograded a bit to
  • 3:18
  • what were known as the new or neopanax
  • 3:21
  • vessels. These were the ships that could
  • 3:23
  • go through the new lane of the Panama
  • 3:25
  • Canal opened in 2016. Initially, these
  • 3:28
  • ships were sized at about 12,500 TU, but
  • 3:31
  • we've seen ships go through the new lane
  • 3:33
  • at about 15 and 16,000 TEU. And really,
  • 3:38
  • we think we've hit the limit. Although,
  • 3:40
  • I will say there are bigger ships
  • 3:42
  • planned. The ultra-large container ships
  • 3:45
  • which are basically 400 meters long are
  • 3:48
  • restricted by the Suez Canal. Well,
  • 3:50
  • we're not going through the Suez Canal.
  • 3:52
  • And there are proposals out there to
  • 3:54
  • extend the ships 50 to another 100 m.
  • 3:57
  • That'd be 450 to 500 m long. That means

  • 4:01
  • may not be 24,000 TEU, but 27 or 31,000
  • 4:07
  • TEU. So, we're talking about massive
  • 4:09
  • growth in the size of ships. Now the
  • 4:13
  • size of ships limits where you can go.
  • 4:16
  • There are obviously limitations for
  • 4:17
  • coming into port. You need draft. You
  • 4:20
  • need, you know, deep water. You need
  • 4:22
  • aird draft. You got to get under
  • 4:23
  • bridges. And more importantly, you need
  • 4:25
  • the cranes and the yard space to be able
  • 4:28
  • to handle them. Your normal ship toshore
  • 4:30
  • cranes initially couldn't reach out
  • 4:32
  • across 24 stacks. So you needed higher
  • 4:35
  • cranes and longer cranes to do this. And
  • 4:38
  • ports were racing to this. You know, in
  • 4:40
  • the leadup to the opening of the Panama
  • 4:42
  • Canal's new lane in 2016, the Gulf and
  • 4:45
  • East Coast ports of the United States
  • 4:46
  • were expanding greatly. Over in Europe,
  • 4:49
  • they were racing to accommodate these
  • 4:51
  • ultra-large container ships. And what
  • 4:53
  • does that mean? Well, let's go to marine
  • 4:55
  • traffic and take a look. So, I cleaned
  • 4:57
  • up marine traffic, and what you see here
  • 4:59
  • are just container ships. These are the

  • 5:01
  • world's container ships heading out
  • 5:03
  • there. So, you can see container ships
  • 5:04
  • going across the Trans-Pacific. They're
  • 5:06
  • heading pretty south right now because
  • 5:08
  • of the high weather. They don't go up
  • 5:10
  • around Alaska right now because of the
  • 5:11
  • rough weather due to the wintertime. Uh
  • 5:13
  • they're taking their route heading
  • 5:15
  • around Australia, New Zealand. They take
  • 5:17
  • that southern route around Australia.
  • 5:19
  • They're heading across the the Indian
  • 5:21
  • Ocean around the Cape of Good Hope.
  • 5:23
  • They're heading to India. They're
  • 5:24
  • heading up in the Persian Gulf. They are
  • 5:25
  • not going into the Red Sea as we see
  • 5:27
  • here. Uh because of the Houthi, they're
  • 5:30
  • coming around the Cape of Good Hope,
  • 5:31
  • heading up into the Mediterranean and up
  • 5:33
  • into Northern Europe. And then we have
  • 5:35
  • ships coming on the trans-Pacific route
  • 5:37
  • here, coming into the Panama Canal,
  • 5:40
  • heading across the Pacific into Asia,
  • 5:43
  • either to Chile or that big new mega
  • 5:45
  • port in Peru, heading into the LA Long
  • 5:47
  • Beach complex or through the Panama
  • 5:50
  • Canal to the Gulf and East Coast. Now,
  • 5:52
  • let's take this and clean this up and
  • 5:55
  • let's look at those ultra-large
  • 5:57
  • container ships. So, we set our shipping
  • 5:59
  • TEU capacity to over 18,000 TEU. And

  • 6:04
  • what we see here is every ship over
  • 6:06
  • 18,000 TEU is heading from Europe to
  • 6:10
  • Asia except for one. There is one ship
  • 6:14
  • that isn't the MSE Ela heading across
  • 6:17
  • from Korea, from Busousan, heading over
  • 6:19
  • to Long Beach. That's it. Every other
  • 6:22
  • ship is in Asia heading across through
  • 6:25
  • the Indian Ocean. A couple up here in
  • 6:27
  • the Persian Gulf heading up in that
  • 6:28
  • area. Some are in and around the
  • 6:30
  • Mediterranean. Some up here in Western
  • 6:33
  • Europe. A couple up here heading up into
  • 6:35
  • the Baltic as we see. But that's it.
  • 6:38
  • That's where you see it. And the reason
  • 6:40
  • is the ultra-large container ships are
  • 6:42
  • the epitome of efficiency. They are big.
  • 6:46
  • uh they tend to go from large terminals
  • 6:50
  • in Asia where they're outloading
  • 6:53
  • to trans shshipment points in the
  • 6:56
  • Mediterranean in West Africa and in
  • 6:58
  • Europe. You offload these 24,000 TU

  • 7:01
  • ships and then you take them and put
  • 7:03
  • them into smaller feeder ships or into
  • 7:05
  • the inland system. The reason they don't
  • 7:08
  • come to the United States has to do with
  • 7:10
  • the geography and the nature of the
  • 7:12
  • cargo coming into the United States.
  • 7:15
  • back over to marine traffic. We cleared
  • 7:17
  • out our TEU, so we're getting all
  • 7:18
  • different types of vessels. So, when you
  • 7:20
  • come across the Trans-Pacific, the West
  • 7:23
  • Coast of the United States is different
  • 7:25
  • than the East and Gulf Coast. You only
  • 7:26
  • have a few ports on the West Coast.
  • 7:28
  • You've got the mega complex in LA, Long
  • 7:30
  • Beach. You've got Oakland, you've got
  • 7:32
  • Seattle, Tacoma, you got Vancouver, and
  • 7:35
  • you got Prince Rupert up here in
  • 7:36
  • Northern Canada. But the key here is LA
  • 7:39
  • and Long Beach. The vast majority of
  • 7:41
  • cargo coming to LA and Long Beach. Why
  • 7:43
  • LA and Long Beach? Well, there's a
  • 7:45
  • massive population concentration there.
  • 7:47
  • And then if you want to get into the
  • 7:49
  • interior of the United States, you want
  • 7:50
  • to go into LA and Long Beach cuz the
  • 7:52
  • rail can take the southern route south
  • 7:54
  • of the Rockies, not worry about the
  • 7:56
  • incline and get into the transportation

  • 8:00
  • rail system that is the Midwest, Texas,
  • 8:02
  • Dallas, uh up into uh St. Louis to
  • 8:05
  • Chicago to Kansas City and get to that
  • 8:08
  • population that is spread east of a line
  • 8:11
  • from Minnesota to Texas. And so when you
  • 8:14
  • go into LA and Long Beach, you tend to
  • 8:17
  • offload the vast majority of your cargo.
  • 8:19
  • Almost anywhere from 50 to 100% of cargo
  • 8:23
  • is offloaded. When you come to the Gulf
  • 8:26
  • or East Coast, you go to three or four
  • 8:28
  • ports. That means you offload anywhere
  • 8:30
  • from 20 to 40% of your cargo. And so
  • 8:33
  • what you don't want to do is bring a
  • 8:35
  • 18,000 TEU ship into LA and it sits
  • 8:39
  • there for a week. Now, I hear you
  • 8:41
  • already screaming in the channel. Well,
  • 8:43
  • the reason it sits there a week is the
  • 8:45
  • inefficiency of the unions. And if we
  • 8:47
  • only automated the ports, it wouldn't be
  • 8:49
  • a problem. No, it's not it. Because the
  • 8:52
  • problem is this. You could work the LA
  • 8:54
  • port 24/7. We have automation in LA and
  • 8:57
  • Long Beach. The problem you have is once

  • 9:00
  • you put that box on the ground, you've
  • 9:02
  • got to get into the inland distribution
  • 9:04
  • system. Well, guess what? truck, rail,
  • 9:07
  • and warehouses are not running 247. If I
  • 9:10
  • put that in a back of a tractor trailer
  • 9:12
  • and I go to a warehouse, it's not going
  • 9:13
  • to open till six. Doesn't do me any good
  • 9:15
  • to 247. So, you got to have the whole
  • 9:18
  • system running 24/7. We learned this
  • 9:20
  • during the global supply chain crisis.
  • 9:22
  • The other issue you have is on the east
  • 9:24
  • and west coast ports
  • 9:26
  • is if you bring those behemoths in there
  • 9:29
  • to offload, they're going to overwhelm
  • 9:30
  • the terminals because the terminals are
  • not that big. You're going to put a lot
  • of containers on. Plus, a lot of
  • shippers, those who ship cargo, would
  • rather have smaller ships come in more
  • frequently than larger ships coming in
  • less frequently. You know, if I have a
  • 24,000 TEU ship, I would rather have
  • three 8,000 TEU ships come in, you know,
  • once a week than one 24,000 come in once
  • every 3 weeks. If I if I'm the if I'm
  • the the carrier, the the guy who
  • operates the ship, yeah, I want to have

  • 10:00
  • that one ship come in because it's
  • efficiency. two less crew, fuel
  • efficiency, port charges are less. It's
  • just more money for me. But you have to
  • give the service that's required, and
  • it's one of the reasons we see that.
  • Now, Linton notes this in his article.
  • Global ports are bracing for a wave of
  • ultra-large containers ships that have
  • the potential to overwhelm
  • infrastructure and supply
  • chains. With ports under increasing
  • strain at the hands of the industry
  • behemoths and supply chain still
  • fragile, the industry faces a race
  • against time to adapt. another black
  • swan event could turn today's congestion
  • into tomorrow's crisis. This is 100%
  • true because we have seen instances
  • where uh a black swan event can cause
  • catastrophe evergiven in the Suez. We
  • had Dolly in Baltimore. But there are
  • some other ones that we've talked about
  • on this channel that many people don't
  • know. Mask Suraya coming into Savannah
  • nearly blocked the channel into
  • Savannah. APL Chingda coming out of New

  • 11:01
  • York nearly blocked the channel in the
  • kills going into Staten Island and into
  • New Jersey. So, do you want to have
  • these large vessels come in and
  • potentially block your port? Now, Linton
  • provides a series of charts and graphs
  • that really convey this in a very
  • efficient manner. So, he takes a
  • snapshot from 2015 to 2025 looking at
  • the third quarter. And if you go back to
  • 2015, there's just maybe about 475 ships
  • operating in the service. In 2025, it is
  • almost 600 ships operating in the
  • service. But it's the composition that
  • has changed. The vast majority of ships
  • in 2015 are ships under 5,000 and those
  • between 5 and 10,000. So probably the
  • average size we're looking at is a ship
  • right around 56,000 TEU in 2015. Fast
  • forward to 2025. Well, the almost half
  • the ships are under 10,000 TEU. What you

  • 12:02
  • see is ships between 10 and 15,000.
  • Ships between 15 and 18,000 that started
  • entering the ch the trade back in 2020
  • and then just a really tiny sliver of
  • ships just over 18,000 to 21,000 in
  • 2025.
  • This means that the size of the ships is
  • changing. It also means that capacity is
  • changing. Go back to 2015, capacity was
  • just under 3 million. Today, it's at
  • roughly 5 million with most of that
  • capacity in the hands of the larger
  • ships, ships over 10,000 TEU. If you
  • look at the Asia to Europe deployment,
  • these are ships that are coming from
  • Asia to the Middle East and Indian
  • subcontinent and over to Europe. What
  • you see here is a change in the makeup
  • of that fleet. So the number of ships
  • was just over 300 in 2015. It dipped
  • going into 2020, but now has grown and
  • roughly about 450 ships coming in. But

  • 13:03
  • again, look at that change. Vast
  • majority of the ships were under 15,000
  • TEU in 2015. Today, the majority are
  • over 15,000 TEU. And when you look at
  • capacity, it has increased from just
  • under four million TEU to almost 7
  • million TEU. And the vast majority of
  • that 7 million TEU is in carried in
  • ships over 18,000
  • TEU. So that means that more ships are
  • coming to Europe and those ships are
  • bigger and and that to me is
  • particularly significant. We're having
  • about 5 million TEU capacity coming in
  • the Trans-Pacific, about 7 million on
  • the Asia to Europe run. So, if you go
  • back and look at the chart for Europe,
  • notice how the feeder ships less than
  • 5,000 TEU are growing starting in 2021.
  • That tells me that these big ships are
  • coming in. They're offloading in the big
  • trans shshipment hubs and then we're
  • using smaller ships to kind of hub and

  • 14:02
  • spoke it out to the smaller areas.
  • That's what we see happening. Now that
  • does not happen in the United States for
  • a couple of reasons. Uh that hub and
  • spoke method would have to be done with
  • Jones Act ships, ships built in the
  • United States that can meet the inner uh
  • that can meet the uh uh requirements for
  • cababotage. The other reason you don't
  • want to see in the United States is no
  • one wants to pay port handling charges
  • twice in the United States because it's
  • expensive to operate in and around the
  • United States ports. Now, that may
  • change. Again, what we're starting to
  • see is more of those ships coming around
  • Africa. So, we may start seeing those
  • vessels coming in. Plus, if you can set
  • up a large port on the east and Gulf
  • Coast, Savannah, Charleston, Port of
  • Virginia, for example, they can accept
  • those. Matter of fact, the Port of
  • Virginia is aiming to do that. They want
  • to take in these ultra-large container
  • ships. And then what they want to do is
  • dump them in Virginia and then send the
  • stuff into the inland system. That may
  • be a way to make it work. The problem is

  • 15:00
  • the ship is going to be in port for a
  • long time and do you have the capacity
  • to do that? When you start looking at
  • the container ship order book right now,
  • look at the number of ships that are on
  • order. Vast majority of ships on order
  • right now are over 14,000 TEU. Uh you
  • have less ships that are being ordered
  • smaller than that. So definitely seeing
  • that. And more importantly, when you
  • look at the uh number of vessels here,
  • look at that spike. We're going to see a
  • lot of 18,000 plus TEU ships delivered
  • starting in 2026, this massive spike in
  • 2028. Now, you're not seeing the ships
  • that were delivered before that. We had
  • a spike in 2023, 2024 with that was that
  • orders that were being put in because of
  • the supply chain surge. Container ship
  • companies were ordering a lot of vessels
  • and you tend to order these much larger
  • ships earlier, so they're on there. So,
  • we're definitely going to see that. But
  • that takes us back to Linton's article
  • and his conclusion. So Linton goes to
  • the guru of shipping, Martin Stoppford.

  • 16:01
  • Now, I got to say Stopford is a huge I'm
  • a huge fan of Stopford. He wrote um uh
  • Maritime Economics, which is the Bible
  • of shipping. The third edition, the 2007
  • edition is out there. You can download
  • the PDF. I'll have the link in the show
  • notes for you. Uh Martin gave a comment
  • to Linton which I am upset about because
  • he needs to be writing the fourth
  • edition. We need the fourth edition of
  • this book. So Martin stop giving
  • comments and and and write type get
  • there writing. But he does say this. Uh
  • he offered a sobering assessment arguing
  • their operational inefficiencies
  • especially their time spent in port. Uh
  • despite their continued order, he
  • believes the upward trend vessel size
  • has peaked and failed to deliver on its
  • promise. Now this happened in tankers.
  • We got way big on tankers. We had uh
  • very large crude carriers. We had
  • ultra-large crude carriers. So from a
  • 100,000 dead weight tons to 200,000 dead
  • weight tons. We got up to 500,000 dead
  • weight tons. They just became
  • unproductive. We're kind of seeing that

  • 17:00
  • in the passenger ship trade right now
  • 17:02
  • with the growth of passenger ships of,
  • 17:04
  • you know, from from several hundred to
  • 17:06
  • several thousand. We're like at 5,000 to
  • 17:09
  • 7,000 passengers. Are we seeing the same
  • 17:11
  • thing in container ships? Stopford
  • 17:14
  • warned that geopolitical shifts too are
  • 17:16
  • pushing cargo into smaller medium-sized
  • 17:18
  • ports that lack the infrastructure to
  • 17:20
  • cope with the surging volumes. He then
  • 17:23
  • says this, and I I got to say I got a
  • 17:25
  • little bit of a hesitation with Martin
  • 17:26
  • saying this quote, 'In other words, you
  • 17:28
  • do what McKenzie always said you were
  • 17:30
  • supposed to do with containerization.
  • 17:32
  • You have some very big distribution
  • 17:34
  • centers like Rotterdam. You stick all
  • 17:36
  • the containers from Mexico, Malaysia, or
  • 17:38
  • whatever it is on a small ship and take
  • 17:40
  • it to the final destination, which might
  • 17:42
  • be somewhere like Aberdine or Newcastle
  • 17:44
  • or anywhere in Northwest Europe. This
  • 17:47
  • approach, he estimated, could reduce
  • 17:48
  • carbon emissions by 40 to 60%. Well,
  • 17:50
  • number one, don't ever listen to
  • 17:52
  • McKenzie. I mean, I'm sorry, but that's
  • 17:54
  • a a sure proof disaster right there
  • 17:57
  • happening there because they're going to
  • 17:59
  • give you whatever answer they want. But

  • 18:00
  • I I do have a question about that
  • because what he's talking about is is
  • the idea of what we're seeing right now,
  • these huge trans shipment points. You
  • know, the reason Roderdam and Felix
  • Stowe and Shanghai and Singapore have
  • these huge volume numbers in containers,
  • it's because they're trans shipments.
  • They they they offload a container and
  • then load the container. When you look
  • at US ports, you offload into the ports
  • and then you go into the interior.
  • They're they're egress and ingress
  • points. They are not hubs. And that's a
  • big difference. He goes on here to say
  • he acknowledged that carriers are now
  • locked into the ultra-large carrier
  • future. What this future looks like will
  • depend on how the industry responds to
  • the challenge of accommodating larger
  • vessels. How successful they become in
  • developing more additive port ecosystems
  • capable of managing scale. If these
  • adjustments fall short, localized
  • congestion may become routine as vessel
  • cues grow. With supply chains already
  • strained, another disruptive event,
  • geopolitical, environmental, or
  • economic, could swiftly push ports from

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  • disruption to paralysis. And I I think
  • that is true no matter what. Uh whether
  • we have ultra-large containers ships or
  • not, I think ultra-large containers
  • ships just make it more significant. If
  • you shut down Felix Stowe, if you shut
  • down Alerus, if you shut down Singapore,
  • what does that mean? It's going to be a
  • massive disruption. This is my fear
  • about creating new ultra-large ports in
  • places like West Africa, which is
  • inherently unstable right now. And the
  • United States can accept ultra-large
  • containers ships. I think we'll see
  • ultra-large containers ships eventually
  • come to the United States. Uh, you know,
  • the draft the the the the requirements
  • are there. The question is, are they
  • economically viable? the Newport in Peru
  • that the Chinese have developed will be
  • an ultra-large container hub that will
  • distribute containers out among the
  • Americas in that system. I just don't
  • think it works in the United States.
  • Again, a couple of reasons. Number one,
  • the higher port charges in the United

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  • States because of American labor.
  • Second, you would require feeder ships
  • to be US flagged uh capable of meeting
  • the Jones Act, which can be done, which
  • may be an interesting model that this
  • new ship building aspect should look at.
  • I've actually advocated for that. I
  • think we need to build some container
  • ships into this market to have this. You
  • just need to do something to defay the
  • uh the cost to build these ships. Uh but
  • the model right now is you're going to
  • see these ultraarges stay on the Asia to
  • Europe route almost exclusively. But the
  • Houthis have demonstrated the
  • disruptions are possible. Back in
  • February 2024, we talked about it. It is
  • as applicable today. I hope you enjoyed
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