Raskin drops BAD NEWS on Trump over $400 million corruption scheme
Brian Tyler Cohen
May 11, 2025
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- 0:00
- i'm joined now by Congressman Jamie
- Raskin thanks so much for joining thanks
- to be with you Brian so you have been
- focused on the issue of amaluments
- violations for years and years and years
- now we have just seen the biggest
- example of Donald Trump violating that
- clause in the new reporting that just
- came out from ABC News saying that
- Donald Trump is going to accept a $400
- million luxury jet that's going to serve
- as Air Force One and then ultimately be
- transferred over to him personally
- through his Presidential Library
- Foundation first and foremost is this
- legal
- no it's not consistent with the
- constitution unless the president comes
- to Congress and asks whether he can
- receive this gift because article 1
- section 9 clause 8 of the constitution
- the foreign amaluments clause says that
- no person occupying any office of uh
- profit or trust in the United States
- that includes the president um shall
- receive from a prince king or foreign
- state uh a present and a maluament which
- means a payment an office or title of
- 1:00
- any kind whatever without the consent of
- Congress so uh if you want to take uh
- you know a
- $5,000 uh vacation gift or a $100,000
- check or a $400 million uh jet you got
- to come to Congress first to ask i mean
- there's a a great story about Abraham
- Lincoln who received from the king of
- Sam a beautiful elephant tusk it was in
- the middle of the Civil War and Lincoln
- took the foreign monuments clause so
- seriously like pretty much every other
- president that he came to Congress and
- he said 'I love this tusk can I keep
- it?' And Congress met and they said 'Hey
- you're doing a great job in the war
- honest and we love you but no you can't
- keep that turn that over to the uh
- Department of the Interior.' What do you
- make of Pam Bondi's justification here
- her kind of um legal gymnastics where
- she says 'Well it's not going directly
- to Donald Trump it'll be transferred
- from Qatar to the Air Force and then
- 2:00
- over to his presidential library
- foundation and so it's not a direct gift
- from Qatar it's just there's there's an
- intermediary which is the US government
- well it is a direct gift from Qar the
- Qatari government is the one that
- announced it and it's being offered to
- Donald Trump who apparently is very
- unhappy with the state of Air Force One
- but he's not getting the plane that he
- wants or it won't be ready until 2029 um
- and so it's for him and then it goes to
- his library so it's a gift to him and to
- his library and uh none of that is
- constitutional what do you make of the
- fact also that you know this this was
- this is kind of being given the green
- light by Pam Bondi who of course in her
- past as attorney general of Florida
- accepted a $25,000 donation while her
- office was deciding whether or not to
- pursue fraud charges against Trump
- University surprise surprise she opted
- not to um and she was also a a paid
- lobbyist for the government of guitar
- receiving $115,000 per month and so all
- 3:00
- of those things would suggest that this
- would be prime for her to recuse herself
- from this decision would would you agree
- with that well that's a kind of quaint
- insight you have there um you know this
- administration
- uh doesn't even dabble in uh the ethical
- considerations about anything they don't
- even stop at constitutional violations
- much less something that's merely
- statutory or ethical in nature um and
- and I do um fault the Democrats as much
- as the Republicans for this because we
- saw this happening in the first
- administration um and really that should
- have been the first impeachment we
- brought we should have uh brought an
- impeachment against Donald Trump for
- blatantly violating the emalments clause
- uh you know now of course it was
- difficult to find out everything that
- was going on because so much of this
- done is done in a clandestine way but uh
- the Democrats on the oversight committee
- 4:00
- when I was ranking member in the last
- Congress we released a report showing uh
- $8 million that went directly from
- foreign governments to Donald Trump and
- that was just over a two-year period and
- to just five of his uh more than 500
- companies um so we only scratched the
- surface of it but still we found $8
- million going to the Trump International
- Hotel in DC which I uh called the
- Washington a monument and uh the one in
- Las Vegas the hotel there and uh the
- Trump Tower in New York but he got
- millions of dollars from the Chinese
- government from the Saudi government uh
- and of course that set the standard then
- uh there was this immediate uh payback
- that took place after the uh Trump uh
- administration the first presidency
- where Jared Kushner brought back a cool
- $2 billion from Saudi Arabia even after
- the Saudi sovereign national fund
- recommended against making you know
- 5:02
- putting him in this role investing for
- Saudi Arabia but uh the homicidal crown
- prince uh owed Donald Trump for covering
- up for his uh assassination the drawing
- and quartering the dismembering of
- Jamaal Kosigible and Trump said we saved
- his posterior um and uh they got paid
- back but in any event it was going on
- during the administration and then
- immediately after the administration too
- well I I know that there's a reflex to
- to blame the Democrats but I I do want
- to ask what the Democrats can be doing
- right now what the Democrats should do
- in light of this and and I and I brought
- that caveat up at first because the
- really the onus should not be on the
- Democrats the to to be the only adults
- in the room like the Republicans are are
- grown ass adults who ostensibly also
- take oaths of office to defend uphold uh
- the Constitution and so it can't just be
- that we have to say 'Okay well what are
- you going to do to the Democrats and
- just kind of completely absolve the
- 6:01
- Republicans because their corruption is
- just so baked into the cake but in
- reality their corruption is so baked
- into the cake and there is only one
- party that's looking to uphold the law
- and defend the Constitution and so in
- light of that unfortunate reality what
- is the recourse here what can Democrats
- do what will Democrats do?' Well I
- appreciate that and uh I'm somebody who
- doesn't blame the Democrats because the
- Democratic Party is pretty much all we
- got we are the party of democracy and
- freedom and the rule of law and
- constitution um but I think that all of
- us need to take stock of the fact that
- we cannot ignore corruption as a driving
- force of this authoritarian movement in
- the country and I think that it was
- softpedled in the first administration
- now the courts didn't help us because
- different people tried to bring lawsuits
- about the monoluments clause um and they
- kept getting thrown out on standing and
- other threshold doctrinal blockages um
- 7:03
- all of which is to say it was a
- political question up to Congress to
- raise it so we cannot leave this alone
- both for constitutional reasons as I
- have felt for a long time but also for
- political reasons because people
- understand this is a scam and a ripoff
- donald Trump and his family have made
- more than a billion dollars a month
- since this nightmare started in 2025
- through the new crypto grift right uh
- which is all the rage within the Trump
- administration and you know this makes
- the Trump Hotel look like a Cub Scout
- meeting because if tens of millions were
- flowing in through the Trump Hotel and
- the golf courses now it's hundreds of
- millions or billions of dollars that is
- coming in in an almost completely covert
- secretive way a lot of it from abroad
- through the meme coins and the other
- crypto mechanisms they've set up i
- understand that that what he's doing
- right now is a violation of the
- 8:00
- Constitution but it's also true that the
- Constitution in and of itself isn't
- self-executing and there is no
- enforcement mechanism in the
- Constitution and so how h how do you
- push back against what he's doing if
- he's violating the Amaluments Clause
- then then what is the what is the
- vehicle to actually seek some recourse
- here doesn't somebody have to be harmed
- and I mean could you make the argument
- that that it's all of the American
- people that are being harmed does that
- mean that anybody would be be able to
- bring suit against this president yeah
- well unfortunately the courts have
- rejected that approach the courts have
- really uh repudiated the idea that
- there's a private right of action that
- any citizen can bring against violations
- of the monuments clause they're really
- treating it like a political question
- which means it's up to Congress to act
- and if you've got a compliant majority
- within Congress then we've got a serious
- problem so we've got to raise hell over
- this and then the moment we get the
- majorities back we must legislate to
- install a legislative machinery behind
- 9:00
- the constitutional principle because
- it's not self-executing as you say for a
- long time was the president's
- Republicans and Democrats both really
- respected the idea that there's a
- difference between being president of
- the United States and being in business
- for yourself and making money and they
- accepted what the founders anticipated
- which was a wall of separation between
- the official conduct of the president
- and then private moneymaking they
- thought the president would just set
- that aside for four years or eight years
- or what have you um which is why we have
- not just a foreign emoluments clause but
- a domestic emolements clause that says
- the president is limited to his salary
- in office and cannot be collecting any
- other money from government agencies and
- departments or states and that's another
- clause that Donald Trump has been
- systematically trampling and violating
- by collecting millions of dollars from
- other parts of the government including
- the Secret Service and the State
- Department and Commerce and other
- agencies and departments that went and
- 10:00
- stayed at his hotels and golf courses
- and so on well I think part of part of
- the raising hell right now that we're
- engaged in is explaining to people in
- this country more broadly why this
- matters why does it impact them we can
- see that it's wrong but a lot of people
- just don't care about process they're
- not worried about defending institutions
- that they don't think are are working on
- their behalf anyway and so why is this
- particular issue so important and how
- can it more broadly impact the American
- people
- well um there was an interesting book
- that I read during the first Trump
- administration called The Dictators
- Handbook by Olter Smith and Bruce Bueno
- Deoskita uh which tells the story of why
- corruption really lies at the heart of
- authoritarianism because
- authoritarianism is always about the
- rule of a small minority in society of
- the wealthiest most powerful people
- against everybody else and so how do you
- motivate the people on the inside to
- stay engaged and to stay loyal to the
- leader it's through corrupt griffs and
- 11:01
- you can look at you know the way that
- Vladimir Putin has his oligarchs all of
- whom are billionaires and he gives them
- a franchise he gets a kickback but then
- those people prop up the system but what
- that means is everybody else is getting
- ripped off and so just like in America
- today uh Trump and his family and his
- friends are getting just obscenely
- wealthy by what they're doing they're
- also trying to uh destroy Social
- Security Medicare Medicaid any program
- that actually gets resources to the
- people they want to transfer that
- through tax breaks again to the
- wealthiest people in the country that's
- the only program they've got an upward
- redistribution of wealth well I'm going
- to switch topics a little bit but it's
- on the same general theme of a descent
- into authoritarianism and that is this
- idea that was floated by Steven Miller
- um that the administration is going to
- look into suspending habius corpus which
- is basically what prevents anybody in
- 12:00
- this country from being uh disappeared
- by our federal government being being
- held without any due process we've seen
- that play play play play play play play
- play play play play play play play play
- play play play play play play play play
- play it itself out to to a degree with
- um with these these legal residents with
- Kilimar Brea Garcia who was sent off to
- uh to El Salvador but but habius corpus
- would prevent the rest of us from really
- um suffering that same fate i'm going to
- throw to a clip right now of Senator
- John Baraso i want to talk about
- something that one of President Trump's
- top aids Steven Miller said this week he
- said the administration is actively
- looking at suspending habius corpus just
- for our audience that's the right to
- challenge a person's detention by the
- government this would be a part of the
- broader efforts uh to speed up their
- deportation policies the Constitution
- says that habius corpus may not be
- suspended quote unless when in cases of
- rebellion or invasion would you vote to
- suspend habius corpus since the power
- does ultimately lie with Congress
- 13:00
- the president has said he will follow
- the law the president says if he
- disagrees with the law that he will
- appeal those things the president was
- elected and he won every one of the
- battleground states on promising to
- secure the border and bring safety back
- to his to our communities that's exactly
- what he is doing people do not want to
- live with MS13 gang members in their
- communities the Democrats lost the
- election because they opened the borders
- to 10 million illegal immigrants
- including members of criminal cartels
- drug dealers gang members that's what
- the election was about and the president
- has now seen judges district judges
- radical district judges using their
- courts to set national standards and
- making it harder for the president to
- deport individuals criminals and I stand
- with the president and yet Senator I ju
- just to put a fine point on this I want
- to know what you would do would you vote
- to suspend habius corpus if this were
- brought before Congress ultimately this
- 14:02
- power lies with Congress
- the president said he is going to follow
- the law he was on with you last week he
- said he has great great respect for the
- Supreme Court he said he expects the
- attorney general to do the right thing
- and I expect that the president will can
- you just give me a yes or no what you
- would do though would you support
- suspending habius scorpus
- i don't believe this is going to come to
- Congress what I believe is the president
- is going to follow the law he has said
- it repeatedly so Congressman that was uh
- Senator Brasso basically leaving the
- door open to supporting the suspension
- or elimination of habius corpus and of
- course he he throws in all these um
- these justifications like Donald Trump
- won the election which is apparently
- some mandate to be able to to go ahead
- and suspend the constitution can I have
- your reaction to what Senator Baraso
- said
- you know it's curious to me this
- libertarian authoritarian flip that you
- see so many of the right-wingers doing
- because when a Democrat is president
- 15:00
- they pose like they're big champions of
- freedom and they're always accusing the
- Democrats of trampling on people's
- privacy rights and liberty rights and
- threatening habius corpus and
- threatening martial law the minute they
- get into office it becomes clear that's
- what their program is and then these you
- know pining libertarians suddenly become
- the most hardcore authoritarians in the
- world because it's all about power for
- them look we've only Congress has only
- suspended habius corpus during wartime
- the Civil War and World War II were the
- two major times uh when this happened um
- and in fact President Lincoln originally
- tried to do it by himself and the
- Supreme Court rebuffed that um and then
- Congress in 1863
- uh suspended habius corpus and even
- today in the right wing you can hear you
- know people like uh Rand Paul attacking
- Lincoln for having unilaterally suspend
- suspended habius corpus it's always been
- understood that only Congress can
- 16:01
- suspend habius corpus not the president
- that uh you know no matter how bad
- things get that is a congressional
- prerogative but Congress has only
- exercised it during wartime why in the
- hell would anybody suspend habius corpus
- today you got Donald Trump saying that
- the border has never been safer right uh
- there's simply no justification for it
- unless you wanted to impose martial law
- and destroy constitutional democracy in
- the country right and at the end of the
- day that does look very much like what
- their priority would be so uh we will
- leave it there congressman I appreciate
- your time thank you so much it's great
- being with you Brian
- 16:41
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