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COMMENTARY JAMES CARVILLE AND AL HUNT ... Politicon James Carville: Trump's Time Is Almost Over PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzQvtV4DTU4
James Carville: Trump's Time Is Almost Over Politicon Jan 8, 2026 413K subscribers ... 242,555 views ... 9.5K likes Politics War Room (with James Carville & Al Hunt) James Carville & Al Hunt answer viewer / listener questions about corruption, Trump's potential future in politics, and the implications of the Epstein scandal. They explore the Democratic Party's strategy moving forward, particularly in light of past events and the current political climate. The discussion also touches on the concept of accountability for elites and the historical context of political decisions. Chapters 00:00 Listener Questions and Political Accountability 03:27 Trump's Future and the MAGA Movement 06:29 Corruption in Minnesota and Democratic Strategy 09:31 The Epstein Scandal and Elite Accountability 12:27 Impeachment vs. Truth and Reconciliation 15:31 Reflections on Historical Elections and Future Strategies Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess Transcript 0:00 Listener Questions and Political Accountability The last thing that people are going to talk about or hear about is Donald Trump. The Trump fatigue, the Trump revulsion, the Trump discuss, the just sheer idea that somehow or another we can get away from this. And I would say starting with Halloween of 2027, if I advising the candidate, I said every time you use Trump's name, you got to put a dollar in a jar. And we can't have more than $21 in the jaw at the end of the week. Why do I say 21? Because well, you got three times a day you can mention it. That's it. That's it. Now for our listener questions. This is a segment we love because they are so good. James Mike in Louisville, Kentucky says, 'By making corruption a centerpiece of the 28 Democratic agenda, should we offer a plan for how we're 1:01 going to claw back ill gotten gains from the people who traded their support for favors from Trump?' Well, it you know, I love Loville. It's good to hear from you. And my idea is this and take it to believe or you want have a real accounting. Everybody gave money to Trump, gave money to the stupid ballroom, gave money to the Kennedy, to any all and all Trump entities and get a total. But let's just say that country is the XYZ widget company. And I would make it clear that you supported Trump and Trump entities to the tune of $100 million. it. When you give 115 million to a designated foundation of charity, you you will get no meeting with anybody in this administration to discuss anything about the federal government's relationship with the XYZ widget company. But we're going to move 2:02 on and allow you to do your penance to make up for the stupidity of what you did. And if you do that, we will at least listen to what you have to say. Absent that, you literally don't exist in the minds of this government. Hope they do it. Bob in Bob in Boise, Idaho asked, 'Is there a chance of Donald Jr., Melania, or another Trump running in 2028?' Bob, no. Uh, they won't certainly I mean, Melania would never run for anything. But let me tell you this. I I just this is, you know, this is just obviously conjecture, but come 2027, Trump is going to realize he's going to hate to give up the the limelight and and he he just it's going to be driving him crazy. And I would not put it beyond him. He still has a lot of still is likely to have a lot of clout within the MAGA movement in the party. And particularly if Rubio is running against uh uh against Vance or somebody else is Cruz is, I would not put it 3:01 beyond Trump to say, 'Okay, I'm going to support the person that takes Donald Junior on the ticket.' It's an insane idea, but of course insane ideas are not foreign to Donald Trump. I I have a little bit of a different take and I'm going to give this is the advice I'm going to give to potential 2028 candidates. I believe and think about this when even 27 toward the end of 27 the last thing 3:28 Trump's Future and the MAGA Movement that people are going to talk about or hear about is Donald Trump. The Trump fatigue, the Trump revulsion, the Trump discuss, the just sheer idea that somehow or another we can get away from this. And I would say starting with Halloween of 2027, if I would advise a candidate and said every time you use Trump's name, you got to put a dollar in the jar. And we can't have more than $21 in the jaw at the end 4:01 of the week. Why do I say 21? Because well, you got three times a day you can mention it. That's it. That's it. A and you can maneuver against him and you just say, 'Look, every person here understands exactly what this threat is. Every person here feels the same way and but somebody wants a conversation about themselves and their future and it's incumbent on me to give you that conversation. I I really really believe this and I I I think we're right now when anti-Trump frenzy and people that the most clever attacks on Trump are the ones that are getting kind of public recognition. I think the political climate is going to be people are just sick and tired of this son of a and they just would rather not talk about him, not investigate him. Yes. But I I I just I think people want to move on and and that desire is going to be so manifested. It's going to really really have an effect on the arch. Well, I agree. We're talking past each other because I think that's true. Uh uh I I 5:00 think he will still have clout among the some of the avid MAGA types. And if he makes a demand on a Republican potential nominee, it could be death for the general election. But you know, he he he will not be an inconsequential figure in that group. It's a minority of a minority. And uh I I I wouldn't put anything beyond him. Would not put anything past him. But I just think we we we however bad shape he is in now, I don't think we can calculate what it's going to be like going forward. Yeah. And it it it's already you you can see that it's loosening in MAGA bad. A lot of Mega doesn't like that. You know, it's an interesting thing is uh when you look at what a lot of them are saying, they're really divided over there. I mean, really and and divided it in in very very rigid ways that we don't 6:01 quite understand because we don't live in that culture. But the Spectator, which is a big kind of right-wing journal, it was a big anti-Clinton thing. It's been around forever. I just picked up the latest issue. I wish I had it in front of me in a number of anti-Trump articles in there. Wow. It was just presupposed. It was just the magazine literally supposed that who's to vote for the crack up. They they say it's already happening. That now that's a spectator, 6:29 Corruption in Minnesota and Democratic Strategy right? But we don't we way way because we don't pay attention to right-wing cover media or right-wing politics. A lot of people don't fully appreciate how big the current fissures are in that kind of maga world, if you will, on all kinds of issues. Anti-semitism, there huge fights going on on that. Uh I'm sure and they're going to be a huge fights on within a couple weeks, if not sooner, uh on Venezuela. Uh it's just uh and and and what some 7:02 people out there don't really realize is they think that the that the right-wing media is Fox News. Fox News is very important. It's very big. But there is a whole slew of right-wing media influences. I mean, you know, obviously the late but yes, but Ben Shapiro and uh Kelly. Yes. Yes. Candace. Is it Candace Owens? I mean, it's a huge group. Joe Rogan. I'm not sure he's a real right-winger, but he's a real whatever. He's got real power. He's more interesting and smarter, I think, than uh than most. That's for sure. But look at Steve Bannon. Yeah. Who? Yeah. He's probably honestly the smartest one over there. But I mean, the whole the whole thing is crumbling. James, he'd be better off with you if he took a bath. I guess you said that several times. Talk about I never heard from Stevie on my debate proposal, man. Come on. Let's Let's talk about Rob Ryan and and let's 8:01 talk about Charlie Girk and uh you're not gonna win that. He a you ain't gonna win that argument. By the way, why can't you think of the name of your own podcast? He stole yours, James. He stole yours. Damn it. Well, I'll steal it from somebody else. So, I guess I can steal it from me. All right. Uh you know, I you know, it's probably not right that uh that I steal questions from New Orleans, but I'm going to. John in New Orleans as by ignoring or outrightly justifying the corruption of the food and child care scandals in Minnesota will Democrats turn this into the latest woke debacle by arguing it isn't so bad or it's a racist attempt to smear Somali Americans. John, if they did that, you'd be absolutely right. I think they're not going to do that. I think Tim Walls's uh decision not to run uh for uh reelection is an important one. And I think now there's going to be there's a very very good piece by Jonathan Con and the B work on what this is really all about. It wasn't just all Somali although they certainly played a role and it really is 9:00 a bad scandal. It can't be swept under the rug. And I think it's really important now that uh the Democrats as well as Republicans acknowledge that and go after it. The previous US attorney did. The current US attorney is doing that. And uh anyone who wants to downplay it, I think is making a huge mistake. I agree. And what I hear all the time in the media is, 'Well, they say that you can't talk about this issue. This issue is being undercovered.' Well, you're covering it right now. 9:31 The Epstein Scandal and Elite Accountability Yeah. You're covering it by saying it. It I I I don't know. It's certainly 100% awareness of this among any Democrat that I know. I It's been all over the media, but the the greatest boo to say, 'They won't allow you to say this, but fraud is bad. I will just go out and say this. Now, you can't say this in modern America, but I'm courageous enough to tell you fraud is bad. It fraud is even bad when it's in Minnesota. Yes, I'm I'm I'm listen to me. Fraud is bad. I'm 10:00 courageous. Like, uh you I think that the governor did make the right decision. Uh I just would bet anybody, yes, this is there's something here. At the end of the day, I would bet anybody without knowing anything other than history that something will be that will not be the magnitude of what we told. Well, Jonathan Con, the Bowwork, who I don't know him, but boy, he is not me. He he said that the Minneapolis Star Tribune has been covering this extensively for years. I mean, that's the local paper that Yeah, you always throw something out, but god damn it that no one coveted. Yeah, the the biggest newspaper in Minnesota has been coded for, you know, you just can't you always got to be the naysayers. You always got to be negative about everything. You always want to come with your stupid ass facts and no one wants to hear that. We want our story. They've just let this go and Minnesota got 11:01 caught up in a in a twirl of of of communism and and I don't know I just love James. I love woke. I just love woke. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, you know, oh, oh my god. Our next question comes from Bliss in Joe McCarthy's hometown, Appleton, Wisconsin. Oh, okay. Who who Good, good question. Should Democrats change their strategy at all in light of the Wall Street Journal December 30th article stating that Mara Lago source Jeffrey Epstein's supply of young women? That's a really good piece. And it did say that. It said that basically Epstein got his women m he would send the nefarious Maxine uh Galain Maxwell over and they would get women who were working at Mara Lago and bring them over to Jeffrey Epstein. Some of them were as young as 16 years old. And it is true that by 2000 or by 2003 or four that uh Trump kicked him out, 12:00 but he knew this was he must have known this was going on. and and one woman came back and said she was sexually assaulted after she went over to Epstein. One woman from Mara Lago and they never reported that to the police. I'm sorry for that long buildup, but it really was a great story that kind of got lost in the u uh in the in the holidays. So, I guess the question after my long build up from Bliss is should that affect how Democrats talk about this? I I look I think the way that 12:28 Impeachment vs. Truth and Reconciliation America talks about this it's important that what's read the court is yes this is a story about horrific crimes and you cannot look at these women and watch them talk about what their lives are like about this how this ruined their lives how like gross this whole thing was and this according to what I read in the press is 2 million more documents are going through. I forever I hope you're listening uh Sheldon or Jamie, but you 13:03 should get try to get the votes on your committee to call someone in the Justice Department and ask them where where they are at response to congressional subpoena duly signed by the president to turn everything over. What have you got now? How much you have left to review? What's the process? When can we expect it? Because to people the the the real issue in this story is that there was a feeling in this country and it really got accelerated in this century to be fair but it would it exists for a long time. It's always been there. It's a paranoid style of American politics Richard Hoffstead or whatever and that is that there's elites and they get to do one thing. They always get the best table in the restaurant. They get to go first in the airport line. They get the best investment firms. They get the best doctors. They get the best everything. And they get to play by one set of rules. The rest of us poor slob 14:04 we get a parking ticket. We got to pay it. If we don't, they're Buddhist. We go downtown. We don't get that. And boy, this was accelerated by the decision that President Obama made really bad, really damning to not go after the banks that post the 2008 financial crisis. And so the reason this story won't go away, it can't go away, we don't really need to kick it that hard. We started we bring it up. explanation is it fit into a worldview that it to be fair no particular right left ideology owns it but it's it certainly is part of the right-wing narrative that these elites they get away with everything and they get to do what they want and the rest of us get the back end of the thing and the epste thing dig so deep into that set of thought process I don't think they can get rid of it you just can't wash it 15:00 right because it it's too confirming to too many people and I was right. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I I couldn't agree more. Kathy in Southwest Florida says, 'Do you agree a better effort after winning both houses in 26?' Uh, that's a good start. Kathy would be the impeachment of Supreme Court justices rather than Trump. It might produce better results. Kathy, um, James says you can only say Trump's name uh, three times a day. We're not yet. We're not talking. I 15:32 Reflections on Historical Elections and Future Strategies I would say Democrats don't use the word impeachment at all. It's not going to happen. I think it just play I I watched uh Caitlyn Collins last night, David Axelrod, for whom I have great respect, uh debating a Republican gunslinger named Scott Jennings, for whom I have no respect. And I think Jennings kind of trapped him by saying Democrats are just going to go after impeachment. And David kind of turned it to other other issues. That's what Trump wants to say. Yeah. is is they're going to go and make a 16:00 political circus out of this. It's not going to happen. There are all kinds of other issues to run on. And it's not to say if you look at the standard for impeachment that there aren't deserving people, but I I I just think it's a it's a non-starter, James. So, the question is if I'm correct that the country is sick of Trump, that the country wants to move on, and if I'm correct that I think the Democrats going to win 2028. So the question is what do you do about the Trump era? People will say good people well many people look it was terrible mistake people are sick of it we did we got I don't 398 electoral votes proof in the pudding but you know when pollsters ask people what do they want to do they want government that you know doesn't look back that concentrates on their lives assume all this then what is the smart decision and I want us to be known as the 17:01 Nuremberg Democrat You can't, maybe it's not the the the the savvy thing to do in 2026 or 2027, but there has to be deep consequences to this. And I don't I think we should be very clear that the next AG is going to look at at possible criminality and pursue it where it is. But do you use the problem with doing impeachment? We've impeached him twice. After a while, it starts to lose its significance and it looks like that. But what you should do is keep building a case that to build a case that you can prosecute him in 2029. Well, the model that I would suggest more than Nerburgg would be the South African Truth and Reconciliation uh Commission. I think people deserve to know what happened. There may be a few people who deserve indictments. Uh but I 18:02 think if you name some uh you know retired federal judges uh people of great standing Republicans as well as Democrats and just give them a year full subpoena power u I mean I think that worked in South Africa uh and I think it could work here but you know it's uh it's a tough choice James because awful things happen terrible things happen and ignoring terrible things is a mistake but getting into you know impeachment and everything I could be a mistake. You know, I'm a I always say that everything is contained in the Bible and in this instance, I would describe myself as an Old Testament Democrat. Okay, James, I always save the toughest questions for you for last. I mean, you know, I'm sorry this this is Please don't take it personally because this is really going to be a hard one for you, but I'm I'm going to give it to you anyway. And it comes from Kingsley in Staten Island, New York. Oh, wow. and and that is do you think 19:02 Bill Clinton would have defeated George W. Bush in 2000 despite being impeached in 98? Oh god. Yeah. I I mean first of all Al Gore won that election. Just don't forget that under any any any way that you want to cut it. They Yes. He he left office with the highest approval rating I think anybody had since World War II. I can't think of somebody left with hired and he was in the 60s. But uh you know that's alternative history. Unfortunately uh you know in 2000 I'll repeat again it was widely reported that the United States economically, culturally and militarily was the most descended nation since ancient Rome. That was 25 years ago. No one is arguing that now. Right. Maybe we made some mistakes. Well, I would also say in 2000, if we, you know, do alternative history, in 2016, Obama would have beaten Trump like 20:02 a drum. I mean, in 20124, we if if we' had an open process, we that that's why wability is everything. That's why it's so important to focus on that. And again, to my friends at Daily Cous, I love you. I love you people. Here's Sarah for Daily Cause. All right. Hey, thank you. I cannot thank you enough for those letters. This is our our I guess James, this is really our our real maiden voyage for 2026, which we all hope will be better than 2025. But please keep those letters coming in because you really you make us think and we love hearing from you. [Music]

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