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AOC Wipes The SMUG Look Off Of RFK Jr.'s Face In LIVE Hearing TYT Investigates Jan 5, 2026 690K subscribers ... 84,223 views ... 3.7K likes RFK Jr. got destroyed over and over again by Democrats. For more from TYT Investigates, SUBSCRIBE at: / tytinvestigatesreports You can read our stories at https://www.TYT.com/investigates LIKE and FOLLOW us at / tytinvestigates . And connect with us on Twitter @TYTInvestigates 251231__IV02_RFKJRENDOFYEARTHEMATIC Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess Transcript 0:00 I am as a public servant completely financially divested of any conflicts of interest with any health care companies, any stocks, any uh any lawsuits that I would financially benefit from. Are you? Am I? Yes. You're completely divested? Yes. You have no financial interest in any lawsuit, crypto, none of that? No. Oh, crypto. I own some I own Bitcoin. Okay. And do you have any other securities or assets? I don't. I mean, I had to go through this with the Office of Government Ethics and I had a few interests that were very minor that I divested. Okay. Just checking. I'd always like to It's a good question. I always like to know what the field is before I enter uh conversations. Um so, thank you for that. Um, in the health care space, something that we've both spoken to is that some of the worst actors are in the for-profit medical space are are are in for-profit health insurance, big pharma, etc. And one of 1:06 the worst companies actually is United Healthcare in this respect. United Healthcare is the largest health insurance company in the country. They are the largest employer of doctors and own thousands ofarmacies, clinics, surgery centers, and home health agencies as well as hospice providers. Uh, Secretary Kennedy, are you aware that President Trump's Department of Justice is reportedly investigating United Healthcare for criminal insurance fraud in some of their for-profit health insurance plans like Medicare Advantage? I'm not aware of that investigation. You are not aware that the Trump Department of Justice is investigating the largest insurance company in America that No, I'm not aware of for fraud and Medicare Advantage. No, I'm not aware of that, but that you have jurisdiction over. It doesn't surprise me. Okay. In your submitted testimony, you said HHS takes seriously our role as responsible stewards of taxpayer 2:03 dollars. Um, are you aware that for-profit insurance corporations like United Healthcare have been found to be defrauding public dollars of more than $80 billion a year? I'm not aware of that number, but I aware that there is fraud across the for-profit sector. Respectfully, uh, Secretary Kennedy, if we we're making decisions around waste, fraud, and abuse, this is the largest source of waste, fraud, and abuse of public dollars in the public insurance space. Say $80 million. 8080 billion a year. Um, 80 Did you say 80 million or 80 billion? 80 with a B. Billion. With a B. Yeah. Um, if that's the case, why did you nearly double the rate that taxpayer dollars give for-profit insurance companies like 3:04 United next year? If you don't know those things, double the rate. How did I do that? So, your agency nearly doubled the taxpayer dollars that for-profit insurance corporations like United will be paid next year, meaning these companies, the largest of whom is under investigation, criminal investigation by the Trump admin administration, will be receiving an additional $25 billion from your agency. How is that happening? Um, I would be happy to submit to the congressional record evidence of this. Um, I will enter the CMS press release from April 7th of 2025, uh, into the record, which states that Medicare Advantage corporations will now receive a 5.06% increase in payments next year under your jurisdiction, Mr. Secretary. This is up from 2.2%. I mean what raises from the Biden administration. You are doubling the rate that the Biden the gentle lady's time has expired. 4:08 Crimally investigated companies. The gentle lady's time has expired. The chair now recognizes the gentleman from Michigan, Representative James, for five minutes of questioning. Mr. Secretary, um I'm talking. I'm over here. I've been sitting through this hearing all day today and have noted that you've been unable in most instances to answer any specific questions relating to your agency. Um I think because I haven't been given time. Well, no, you have been given time. But the point of the matter is you've been unable to answer specific questions. Sir, you are the wrong person for this job. And you had had in this hearing today the unmitigated goal to say at the beginning of your testimony that China is ahead of the United States in healthc care because China does not have DEI. I didn't say that. Well, we can roll back the tape. You absolutely and you will find I didn't say that. That is absolutely what you said. 5:04 Knowing that the NIH budget is getting squeezed and the indirect cost likewise, how will the NIH successfully do more with less? how we build those new scientists to find these cures and to compete with geopolitical rivals. Well, for one thing, Senator Cassie, you were talking about neuro degenerative disease now, for example, ALS or Alzheimer's. ALS, right? Um, the Chinese are not uh are not spending a lot of money on DEI and they're uh and we are cutting those u studies. We're cutting studies on uh gain of function studies and we're cutting uh we're cutting grants to foreign scientists from adversarial countries and particularly the Chinese which have the thousand talents program which is openly trying to exploit uh US research and and take 6:02 our IP. I I was talking about science and I didn't say they're ahead of they're ahead of us in some forms of science, certainly not in healthcare. Well, we can roll back the tape, but nonetheless, let me go on with my questions and ask you this. Uh, you just heard about the safe to sleep campaign. Um, and you have made cuts. You made it very clear here today. You have no knowledge whatsoever of the absolutely amazing scientists and researchers who you have callously fired. You know nothing about the cuts. fire any working scientist. Senator, that sir is not true either. But nonetheless, it is not true. Let me ask you another specific question. The safe to sleep campaign. Well, can then you can you name, sir, which office the safe to sleep campaign operates out of? Which campaign? Well, that's the one that the senator just asked you about two minutes ago that prevents babies from dying in their sleep. A 30-year program inside your agency. you would agree that it's important. I think it's part of HERSA or ACF. It's ACF. No, actually it's in Health and Human 7:04 Services and I think and again they're all within Health and Human Services, but the subdivision is ACF. No, actually the name of the children and families. No, let me tell you what it is. The National Institute of Child Health and Human Development. This is actually the one that your aunt Ununice Kennedy Shrivever um is the person who it's named after. Um, and you you noted just a moment ago, the senator reminded you that although this is a very important agency, prevents babies from dying, this is the same one you fired every single person in this office as of April the 1st. Um, it is also, as I said, there were no working scientists fired during the riff. We can we can um bring you that information later, but because what you just said is not true. Well, then the question also is in addition to firing the individuals who make sure babies don't die in their sleep, um why did you cut funding and staff from the CDC's 8:01 National Center on Birth Defects and Devel Developmental Disabilities, which supports the Special Olympics? Was that a mistake? I've heard you say you've made some mistakes today. Was that also a mistake? We switched those programs to the Administration for Healthy America. They have not been cut. Well, the funding has been cut and this is one that oversaw the Special Olympics. Are you aware of that? We have not cut the Special Olympics. You've cut the funding and you also dismantled the division of reproductive health and women's health and fertility. You're aware of that, right? We have right now we have 42 divisions that do maternal health and we're consolidating them. And the mainstream media has uh has portrayed those as cuts, but they're not cuts, they're consolidations. It's it's ridiculous to have 42 9:00 divisions that are all supposed to be doing the same thing with administrators. Well, let me ask you a question. So, that doesn't exist right now. It's been dismantled. That is a fact that that particular division what you plan to do in there's 42 divisions on maternal health we consolidate. Sir, let me finish what I'm saying here. The fact of the matter is you have dismantled it as we speak. Um and are you aware what what does the assisted reproductive technology mean to you? Does are you familiar with that? Are you talking about IVF? Well, it's assisted reproductive technology. It's a division. Do you know what it does? The is it part of NIH? No, it's actually a part of your agency. It's a part NIH is part of my agency, Senator. You should know that. I do know that, but it's actually a part of it's the CDC is where it is. Okay, then it's CDC, right? Okay. Let me just ask you. Uh and again these are all of the things you seem unfamiliar with the ones the the programs that you've you're unfamiliar with that my agency 10:04 that NIH and CDC are part of HHS. Oh I absolutely know NIH is in my county. I was there this past weekend with searchers that you have fired. So I absolutely know where NIH is sir and don't need any help from you in knowing that. I see the time. Thank you. So let me ask Mr. Kennedy again. If we want to make America healthy, will you assure the American people that you will fight to do what every other major country on earth does, guarantee healthcare to every single American? I'm going to make America healthier than other countries in the world right now. Will you guarantee do what every other major country does? It's a simple question. And and by the way, Bernie, the you know the the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies. It's in Congress, too. Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the 11:03 pharmaceutical industry. Oh, no. And protecting their interests. Oh, I thought that that would No, no, no. I ran for president like you. I got millions and millions of contributions. They did not come from the executives. Not one nickel of pack money from the pharmaceutical ind. They came from 2020. In 2020, you were the single largest because I had receiver of pharmaceutical money from workers all over this country workers from not a nickel from corporate tax. You were the single largest except pharmaceutical dollars. No, from workers in 1.5 million. Yeah. out of 200 million. All right. Will you tell America that all adults and all children over 6 months of age are eligible to get a COVID booster at their local pharmacy today? 12:00 Anybody can get the booster. I'm sorry. Anybody can get it. Anybody. So, you're saying that is now the official rule of HHS. Anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking into the pharmacy? It's not recommended for healthy people. No. No. If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that in many states is that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one. It means insurance companies don't have to cover the $200 or so cost. As Senator Dr. Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines. We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication. Would you Is that what I should be doing? What you should be doing is honoring your promise that you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job. You're going like this. And that is you promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them. You just changed the 13:00 classification of the COVID vaccine. I'm not taking them away from people. Senator, it takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacy. Well, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free. Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy for free. The question is everyone who wants it. That was your promise. I never promised that I was going to recommend products for which there is no indication. When you said and I know you've taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies. Senator, did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that? because you are the one who said you would not take them away. Now, Senator, I'm not taking them away from anything. Secretary, you you want me to indicate a product for which there is no clinical data? Senator, is that what you want? Secretary Kennedy, you said you wouldn't and now you did. I'm not taking them away. Everybody can get access to them. No, they can't walk into a pharmacy the 14:03 way they could last month and get access. It depends on the It depends on the states. A year ago, but they can still get it. Everybody can get it. A month ago, it everybody can get it, Senator. So, look, let's move on. You clearly are taking away vaccines. I've seen the list for what's coming up next, and that is the agenda for the next CDC vaccine panel. And first up is ratifying your COVID action. Second is hepatitis B is on the agenda. So should Americans expect you to take away hepatitis vaccine access as well even though you promise not to? As I said, I'm not taking vaccines away from anybody if it's the same answer, right? You're just going to deny that when people can't get access that you're not taking it away. Then let me ask you, is that the same game you're going to play with? You want me to So you want me to recommend every 15:02 product in the world so that without any clinical trial data through on your promises? Yeah. My promise was to give a month ago we could get COVID vaccines by just walking. You can still get co vaccines. Senator, you're taking that away. No, you are still you can still get the co vaccines and Medicare will still pay for them and Medicaid will still head of the CDC that if she refused to sign off on your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule that she had to resign. No, I told her that she had to resign because I asked her, 'Are you a trustworthy person?' And she said, 'No.' So if you had an employee who told you they weren't trustworthy, would you ask them to resign? Senator, so I'm sorry, but this is not what she has said publicly, she has said. I'm not surprised about that. So you're saying she's lying? Yes. Every conversation I had with her 16:03 that were Let me get this straight. This is the same person that less than a month earlier you stood next to her and described her as unimpeachable and you had full confidence in her and that you had full confidence in her scientific credentials and in a month she became a liar. Yeah, we should ask her what changed. And by the way, a month ago you were voting against her. Oh, because you thought she was either incompetent, ineligible, or unsuited to the task. I because I was afraid she was going to bend the knee to you and Donald Trump. And it looks like she didn't bend the knee. So you fired her. Look, you are putting America's baby's health at risk, America's seniors health at risk, all Americans health at risk, and you should resign. There's a big difference, Senator, between established science and the the scientific establishment, which 17:00 has been co-opted by the pharmacy. Oh, hold on. So, you're telling me you're telling the American people that the American Medical Association representing hundreds of thousands of people have been co-opted and that they should not trust their doctors. The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American, and by the way, just for the record, every single Republican, I don't mean to be political here, Mr. chairman has received pack money from the pharmaceutical industry. Are they all corrupt as well? And I'm telling you, the American Heart Association has been co-opted by the food. Everybody but you, Senator, but you know what? When you ran for president, you know, we have a corrupt campaign finance system. Maybe you will agree with me on that. Okay. You per president, you got a billionaire behind it. You received $300,000 from people, not from the industry, people in it as I did, from individuals. You corrupt. President Trump got $3 million. Every Republican got corporate pack money for the pharmaceutical industry. Democrats as well. Everybody is corrupt. But you uh 18:01 earlier, Secretary Kennedy, you said you wanted to instill trust using truth, evidence-based gold standard science. Uh but Mr. Kennedy in late May, the so-called quote presidential commission to make American healthy Again released what HHS described as a quote groundbreaking assessment that purported to identify the key drivers behind childhood chronic disease. Improving the health of America's children is a goal I share and I recognize this is a passion of yours, Mr. Secretary. That is why I was struck to learn that the report was riddled with mistakes, misconstring and intentionally or not misstating key references, data, and evidence that either do not exist or are not accurately reflected in the report. When journalists reached out to many of the authors of the studies included in the MA assessment, numerous researchers and academics stated that they never wrote the papers as cited or the papers cited didn't even exist altogether. Mr. Chairman, I want to submit these three 19:01 news reports on these misited uh documents from notice from May 29th and May 30th. Without objection. Uh M. Secretary Kennedy, you're listed as the chair of the commission. Did you read the report and fact check its sources prior to publication? All of the facts? Did you read the reports and did you yourself fact check them, sir? I did not fact check. You did not fact check. Then why then as has been widely reported, excuse me, sir, I'm speaking. Why then did the report include citations to sources that don't even exist? H how does that happen under your leadership? Sir, all of the foundational assertions in that report are accurate. They did not exist. How can they be accurate if they did not exist? Sir, some of the citations were you know in fact my understanding is that even once the report even once the report was updated more authors and researchers came forward stating that their research was misconstrued. This is 20:02 quite unbelievable sir. In fact I was a premed at UCLA. They have a great premed program. If somebody turned this in as an undergrad to their professor at UCLA they would have received an F. sir, an F for the misinterpretation, the falsehoods, the denials, and also citing references that don't even exist. That's lying and dishonest. Sir, my concern here, my concern here is that you and this administration are undertaking vast changes to our federal public health system and using purported facts and gold standard evidence that you claim to have as justifications for your decisions, actions, and frankly your dis decimation of our nation's public health infrastructure. Yet, what you are relying upon isn't real. It isn't datadriven and it isn't based in fact, science or reality. Sir, it's wrong. As 21:02 a secretary of one of the most consequential departments within our federal government, mischaracterizating data is not just some typos in a report that gets put on a shelf. Instead, your words and your words of your department carry significant weight. Do you agree? The citations significant word were wrong. That was a mistake. They were corrected within 24 hours. Yeah. But there were wrongs still even after that and they're wrong still today. There were no So do you believe that your words carry significant weight? There were no Iranian. Do you believe your words carry significant weight? There were no Iranian con. Do you believe that the secretary of department of health and human services plays an important role in upholding scientific integrity? Yes. Okay. So then in fact what is most striking about this is that you've also threatened to bar governmental scientists and researchers from publishing in top medical journals. You've barred them from publishing in 22:05 top reputable medical journals and instead proposed quote creating our own journals in house. The idea that we would limit the ability for federal researchers to publish in the most preeminent medical journals and instead have HHS just publish more reports like their MA failed assessment lacking the scientific rigor, accuracy or peer-reviewed criteria that are required by leading journals should worry us all for the future of medicine and innovation. Sir, you mentioned that building trust was a priority number seven. You have failed already in building that trust. How can we trust you when in your report under your leadership when you're the chair of this report has false information and makes up research that didn't even exist? So chairman back the reminder of my time. Just last week, in the days after the tragic 23:02 shooting at Annunciation Catholic School in my home state of Minnesota, you went on Fox News blaming school shootings on anti-depressants. Are you going to be examining at all some of the drugs that are used in order to make that transition happening to see if it plays a role? Because we also know there was a transsh. Yeah, we are doing those kind of studies now at NIH. We're uh launching studies on uh the potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and some of the other um psych psychiatric drugs that might be contributing to violence. you know, many of them on their um have blackbox blackbox warnings that warrant of suicidal ideiation and homicidal ideiation. So, we need we can't exclude those as a culprit. And those are the kind of studies that we're doing. 24:05 You have no evidence of that because you have no evidence of a connection. And you want to talk about I didn't You're just saying something. You're just making stuff up. You know, this is what you say, right, Secretary Kennedy? someone presents you with information that does not fit. I did not blame that shooting. I I have no idea whether I have no idea and I would I never said that. You're making it up. You're twisting. Yeah, you are. You are being dishonest right now. If you want to talk about mental health and gun violence in this country, if you want to talk about mental health and gun violence in this country, we should be talking about that because that's what the pronunciation school. You don't want to talk. herang and you want to politically you want to have partisan politics. I want to actually solve these problems. Secretary Kennedy, what the Trump administration is doing right now is making it harder for people in this country to get access to mental 25:00 health care. So don't talk to me about solving the mental health care crisis when you are making it harder. You cut Medicaid, which is the number one payer for mental health services in this country. You decimated the agency at Health and Human Services that focuses on mental health and substance abuse. That's what states count on. They're cutting their services to schools as a result of that. Several years ago, in a bipartisan way, Congress came together and passed the Safer Communities Act, which made important investments in mental health care and did some important, though small things to reduce access to guns. What do you do? You propose cutting that funding. This is what we're talking about in your leadership in the department of health and human services. If you want radical transparency as you talk about I mean take a look at what you are doing. And you know I've heard a lot about MA today while we've been here. There's a lot of Americans Secretary Kennedy who trust you who believe what you say especially 26:02 when you say you're standing up to corruption. And I think that they need to know, you apparently have a lot of influence with President Trump. Did you ask him not to roll back these regulations that are stopping the big corporations from dumping heavy metals and endocrine disruptors into our soil and water? I mean, there's no evidence that you have been even opposing that. Did you do anything to stop the Trump administration from rolling back this handout to big pharma that makes it easier for the big drug companies to charge more for cancer drugs? No, you presided over that. I mean, it's stunning really what's happened over the last eight months. It's stunning to me. And I just hope that in this moment, our colleagues, there's hardly anybody left in this room, are going to think about what it is that you've done, what your legacy is going to be at the Health and Human Services Agency, and pay attention 27:00 to the damage that is being done here. Secretary Kenny, Dr. Dr. Dascalakis who recently resigned as director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. His res resignation letter stated he and his team were never allowed to brief you. I'm curious who you're listening to since it's clear you're not listening to qualified experts like Dr. Dus Kalakis. Can you give the committee the name of the person? I don't consider Dr. Mr. Mr. Chair. Mr. Secretary, the question that I have for you is, can you give the committee a name of who you're getting briefed by? I'm getting briefed by all the time by CD. Just a name. Dr. William Thompson's one name. Thank you very much, sir. Now, but I can I can get you a whole list of other questions on my Mr. Secretary, that's not a hard question. You know, you know a lot of answers. I'm not being evasive. And you answered it. Let's go on. Now, you you said that you're soon going to release a study claiming to reveal the cause of autism, timed unsurprisingly, 28:00 with the upcoming ASIP meeting to justify taking vaccines from Americans. Now, as you know, autism affects millions of children. So, I'd guess you'd have the nation's top medical experts working on this. Mr. Kennedy, you hired a man named David Guyire to conduct this study. Is that correct? No. Is Mr. David Dyer working for HHS. He's a contractor, but he's not conducting a study. He's a contractor. He's a contractor. Do you know who works for you, Mr. Kennedy? Yeah. Do you know that Mr. Guyer is listed as a HHS on on the employee directory as a senior data analyst, not a contractor? He's a contractor. He's not an SGE. So, is your website wrong? He's not an SG. I you know, I don't know what the You want me to pull up the website for you? He's a contractor. If the website says he is a senior data analyst, will you com will you at least admit to the committee? Contractor can be classified as a senior data analysis or not. Is Mr. Guyire a doctor? No. 29:04 Did you know he never went to medical school? He's not He's not We're not He's not practicing medicine. Did you know that he got caught in Maryland and was charged for practicing medicine without a medical license? He was charged by a medical board. He sued the medical board and the medical board was found to have have acted an actual malice and was fined 2.6 million by a judge in Maryland for doing that. See, so you choose to know a lot when you want to know a lot. You're It's incredible. Senator, you're ridiculous. So here here's the question I have. You brought him in to do this study. I I think there's no question about I told you he's not doing a study. Is he participating in the study? No. What is he doing any analysis on in regards to this study? No. What he's doing is getting access to the vaccine safety data link which is the biggest repository for vaccine information that 30:01 your friend will not give us for seven months. Secretary, let me ask you this question just so because you know the answer. What is Mr. Guyer doing? He is he is the only one because Congress ordered the CDC to open up the VSSD to him in 2002. He's the only outsider who's ever seen it. So because because of us they have Mr. Secretary is he participating in this then? No. But you just said he's the only dude that knows what's going on here. Do you want me to explain it to you, Senator, or do you confusing? You just want to show vote. I I'll I'll submit this. You just want to show both for your ads or you want to hear a real answer to your question. Mr. Secretary, you you choose to know answers to questions with some colleagues. I'm willing to give you the answer. I'm willing to give you the answer. Mr. Secretary, someone should have asked you. Maybe President Trump should have asked you, are you a trustworthy person? And we should have waited for an answer. Then let's move on. 31:02 I don't even know what you're talking about. You're talking gibberish. Mr. Secretary, let me speak slowly and clearly so that you can understand me through my New Mexico accent. Does this help? Can you understand me? Yes. Appreciate that, Mr. Secretary. Yes or no? Did you hire Mr. Dyer to do this study? No. Mr. Chairman, well, let me ask maybe we'll just get a good answer here. Mr. Secretary, will you commit to sharing the protocols used for the autism study with Congress and to the public? They're public. Will Will you commit to giving it to this committee by the end of the week? No. Not because that's not the way it works. Will you don't even know what you're talking about, Mr. Secretary? Will you commit to sharing the protocols for the study by the end of the month? We already have. You just said it's public. But we put out the notice of funding opportunities 32:01 and then the scientists from all over the world. You're not understanding me. Let me No, you're not understanding how the world works. Do you understand what the protocol? Do you understand what they are? The the scientists who are doing the studies submit the protocol. Okay. So you you coming from us. So will you commit to sharing those protocols with this committee? Well, anybody can get a hold of the protocol. It's published with the study. Mr. Chairman, what I'd like to ask is is for your commitment here. I I'll send a letter to the secretary. I'll ask for support from the leadership of this committee to ask for those protocols. If those protocols are not given to this, anybody can get the protocols. Mr. Secretary, I'm not talking to you. Mr. Chairman, what if the protocols are public, we can work with you to What I'm asking, Mr. Chairman, is that if those protocols are not given to this committee, I'm asking for your agreement that we follow through with a with a subpoena to get them. No, I will not agree to subpoena anything. Let's see what happens. Mr. Chairman, you'll help me get them if they're available publicly. Yes. I appreciate that, Mr. Chairman. 33:04 Mr. Kennedy, with all the questions here today, people just want to know the truth. When I don't think so, Mr. Secretary, you don't think so. Thank you. I hope so. I hope everyone recording that got that because there explains the secretary's tenure here. Look, two young ladies in Los Cusus, New Mexico at a town hall recently gave me this starfish pin. I was going to give it to you today, but after your questioning today, I don't think you deserve it because what this represents is to remember that every one of us can make a difference, sir, to something as small as a starfish on a beach that maybe got washed up, you throw it back in the ocean. You might not save them all, but you can save one. I'm sorry that you're not worthy of this nice little pins, sir, as a nice reminder. I'm going to pray for you, Secretary Kennedy. I hope we do better. I want you to do better, but today was a failure for you, man. I yield back. Mr. Kennedy, I was struck by your comments uh during our meeting last 34:01 week. What? I was struck by your comments in our meeting last week where you made it abundantly clear to me uh that you intended to clean house of the professional scientist at the National Institutes of Health uh which you know is headquartered in the state of Maryland. um and and employs thousands of hardworking Marylanders. Um I for the record believe in scientists and I believe in doctors and I trust them over politicians without medical degrees. Uh you talked about bad science and bad scientists and in fact you specifically said to me uh in response to my question that you intend to replace the bad scientist with the good scientist. And so I want to ask you uh in your opinion what makes a scientist or a doctor qualified to serve at the National Institutes of Health? A scientist who's debated uh devoted to empirical methodology to evidence-based science. A scientist who understand the importance of replication, 35:02 the importance of publishing raw data and being open and transparent about it, the importance of publishing peer review. We have NIH has overseen over the past several years the decline the precipitous decline in American health. There's 91,000 people at HHS and are you suggesting that some of them should not be held responsible for that decline? They were in charge of protecting Let me just let me just insert here. Let me just finish. Well, let me just say this because I only have three minutes left. I don't set the rules here, but I ask the questions. And the question is uh really whether you intend as you said to to substitute essentially your judgment for the judgment of these professional scientists and doctors. Well, I never I'm not going to substitute my judgment for science. Of course, I'm not going to do that. What I'm going to do, listen, the New York Times just did an article last week talking about the fraud, the 20-year fraud, 800 fraudulent studies produced by NIH on amaloid plaques and not 36:06 allowing any other hypo hypothesis about the cause of Alzheimer's. How will you decide, Mr. Kennedy, which scientist scientists? Are they the ones who disagree with you? The ones who are corrupt, the ones who have been doing science like the amaloid plaque studies that were fraudulent. We let me ask you a question. Do you have a medical degree? Do I? No. Okay, let me go to the next question. The Heritage Fund has compiled a watch list of federal employees to go after federal staff. Is there a watch list for federal staff at HHS? Not that I know of. Have you or has anyone in the administration developed a list of career scientists or federal staff that you would target for termination? Not that I know of. And let me just ask you um another question. Now, 37:00 your failed presidential campaign has been raising money uh to try and cover your debts, and you were questioned about this yesterday and failed to answer a question uh that Senator Warren asked you. And so, I want to ask you again, um regarding these emails that you have sent to raise money, uh how much has your presidential campaign made fundraising off of this administration's complete disregard for the workforce at HHS? Excuse me. I I didn't hear the question. The last question, how how much money has your presidential campaign made off of fundraising, off of this administration's complete disregard for the workforce at HHS? Uh, zero. Okay. Uh, Mr. Chair, I'd like to ask unanimous consent to enter into the record two emails um from this week and the week before regarding fundraising that you are currently doing through your presidential without objection. And finally, I want to ask you um I have a you you said to you were on a show on February 26, 2021, an interview with Dr. Judy Mikovitz, 38:06 where you said the following, and I quote, 'We should not be giving black people the same vaccine schedule that's given to whites because their immune system is better than ours.' Can you please explain what you meant? Uh there's a series of studies, I think most of them by uh Poland, um that show that to particular antigens that um blacks have a much stronger reaction. There's differences in reaction to different products by different races. So So I have I have 17 seconds left. Let me just ask you then. So what different vaccine schedule would you say I should have received? That what what different vaccine schedule should I have received? I mean the the pollen article suggests that blacks need fewer antigens than you get the same measles vaccine. Mr. Kennedy, with all due respect, that is so dangerous. 39:03 Your voice would be a voice that parents would listen to. That is so dangerous. I will be voting against your nomination because your views are dangerous to our state and to our country. I mean, do you think science is dangerous? Senator, this is published peer-reviewed studies. I yield. Mr. Secretary, I've got a bunch of questions. Appreciate brevity and answering it. So-called big beautiful bill through 15 million Americans off of healthcare, substantially raise premiums, uh, and is going to have a terrible impact on nursing homes, community health centers, rural hospitals all over America. very briefly. Is that really making America healthy again? It's going to have an it's gonna it's going to be the biggest infusion of federal dollars into rural health care in American history. Yeah. You know why? Because you're cutting $150 billion for rural 40:00 hospitals. You're bringing 50 billion back. That's not an infusion. That's a loss of hundred million billion dollars. All right. Next question. President Trump, who I don't usually agree with, called COVID vaccines, quote, one of the greatest miracles in the history of modern-day medicine that saved tens of millions of lives worldwide. Scientific community agrees with Trump. Lancet study found that it prevented almost 20 million deaths during their first year of use. Secretary Kennedy, are President Trump and the medical community right or do you still believe that the COVID vaccine was quote the deadliest vaccine ever made? No, I first of all, I didn't say that. Oh, I said that in terms of affairs reports a while ago. I've said today I think that President Trump should get the Nobel Prize. So, who's right? Is Trump in the medical community right or are you right? President Trump did some did an extraordinary piece of leadership. Is he right or wrong? Did co save millions of 41:02 lives? As I said, he got Americans back to work at that time. That particular vaccine was perfectly matched to the virus that was circulating then. And I have no idea how many lives it saved, but it saved quite a few. Um, you know what I find a little bit weird in this discussion? I'm hearing it over and over again this morning, Mr. chairman is we've got the entire medical community on one side. You got the AMA representing hundreds of thousands of doctors, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Public Public Health Association. All of these organizations are telling us that COVID vaccine and vaccines in general are safe and effective. You are casting doubt on that. Who are your scientific who are the organizations that are agreeing with you and casting dispersions on vaccines? 42:00 The uh the the primary advisors are Marty McCary, uh Jay Barachara, Dr. Oz, Vin. So, you got a few doctors who agree with you, but I'm giving you the name. Not a few doctors. What you're talking about is there's a big difference, Senator, between established science and the the scientific establishment which has been co-opted by the pharmacy. Oh, hold on. So, you're telling me you're telling the American people that the American Medical Association representing hundreds of thousands of people have been co-opted and that they should not trust their doctors. Everybody is corrupt, but you is that what we're looking at? I don't think so. And I think the issue now I don't even know what you're talking about. Well, I think you do know what I'm talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. The issue is every time anyone with Are you saying the pharmaceutical industry was supporting my presidential campaign? I don't think so. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that the pharmaceutical industry is a greedy 43:00 institution which is charging us the highest prices in the world. They are pervasive. But to suggest that every institution, the AMA, the pediatrics people is corrupt because they disagree with you is an insult to listen. People disagree with me all the time. I have arguments in my agency, heated arguments every day with Jay Bachar, with Marty McCary, with Dr. Oz. You have given the names of a few people. I have given you the names of organizations representing hundreds of thousands of doctors and scientists. I yield, Mr. President.

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