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CANADA BROKEN CANADA USA RELATIONSHIP ... Dr. Olivia Wilson and 2 more BREAKING: Carney Furious at Trump — Tensions Explode \| George Conway PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGSzG11fHm0
BREAKING: Carney Furious at Trump — Tensions Explode \| George Conway Dr. Olivia Wilson and 2 more December 23rd, 2025 43K views ... 897 likes Tensions between Canada and the United States have shifted in noticeable ways, and many Canadians are no longer staying quiet about it. From political rhetoric to trade disputes and cultural friction, frustration has been steadily building north of the border. … Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess Transcript 9:00 You know, I have been covering American politics for decades now, and I thought I had seen everything. I really did. But what is happening right now between the United States and Canada, our closest ally, our neighbor, our friend for generations, well, it is something I never thought I would witness in my lifetime. We are watching a relationship that survived two world wars that built the most integrated economy on the planet that created a half billion person marketplace just unravel in real time. And the question everyone is asking from Ottawa to Washington from Vancouver to Miami is simple. How did we get here? And can we ever go back? I recently had the chance to speak with Goldie Haidider, the president and chief executive officer of the Business Council of Canada. a man who has been in the room for some of the most consequential trade negotiations in North American history. He served as chief of staff to former Canadian Prime Minister Joe Clark. And just last week, he testified before the United States Trade Representative. What he told me 1:00 was fascinating, troubling, and in some ways surprisingly optimistic. But before I get to that conversation, I need to set the stage for you because what is happening right now is unlike anything we have seen in modern diplomatic history. The United States Canada tariff situation has been nothing short of a dramatic spectacle. We have seen tariffs imposed based on what many experts consider debunked claims about fentanyl crossing the northern border. We have watched steel and lumber tariffs spike without warning. And then there was that Reagan themed television advertisement from Ontario Premier Doug Ford that managed to set off President Trump in a way that genuinely surprised people on both sides of the border. The advertisement used audio from a 1987 Ronald Reagan speech denouncing trade wars and economic barriers and Trump called it fraudulent, a hostile act. It briefly halted trade talks entirely. 2:00 Now, all of this is unfolding as the USMCA, the trade agreement that serves as the backbone of North American commerce, heads into what could be a makeorb breakak review next year. This is the agreement that Trump himself once called the greatest deal of all time. His own administration negotiated it, signed it, and celebrated it in the summer of 2020. And now, now his top trade official, Jameson Greer, is saying everything is on the table, including pulling out entirely. Think about that for a moment. The Trump administration is threatening to exit its own trade deal. When I asked Goldie Haidider about this, his response surprised me. He told me he is not alarmed by any of it. Books have been written about the president is negotiating strategy, he said, and we are seeing it play out in real time. If you start parsing the statements, they all happen to be true. Um, could the United States exit the agreement? Sure. Could they decide to do two bilateral 3:00 deals instead? Absolutely. But where we are heading, if you pay attention to the process rather than the noise, has been consistently communicated since January. That word consistent caught me off guard. I cover this administration for a living and consistent is not a word I would ever use to describe their approach to anything let alone trade policy. Uh but Haidider insisted there is a method to the madness. Uh the administration told Canada back in January that the issues to be raised would primarily be trade related and for the most part that has been true with exceptions for defense spending and the digital services tax. On Liberation Day, April 1st, they gave Canada and Mexico a USMCA exemption, which is why North American economies are still functioning reasonably well. In fact, Haidider pointed out something interesting. Canada is currently running a trade surplus with the United States, even on tariff goods like steel. And as we all know, President Trump does not like 4:00 surpluses in other countries. He has a very particular reading of economics that views any trade deficit as America losing. The reality of course is far more complicated. What strikes me most about this entire situation is how Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney has framed the relationship. When he was elected earlier this year, riding a wave of anti-Trump sentiment after the president effectively intervened in Canada is election. Carney made a stark declaration. He said Canada is old relationship with the United States is over. Those were his exact words. He said, 'The military and economic relationship, the deepening integration of our two countries is finished.' It was a remarkable statement from the leader of America is closest neighbor and most important trading partner. When I raised this with Goldie Haidider, he pushed back in a way that was both diplomatic and historically fascinating. He told me he agrees with the prime 5:00 minister on many things, but not on that particular point. The notion that the relationship between Canada and the United States has changed forever, he said, is a very long time. And then he offered this incredible historical reminder. After all, if you look back in history, we fought two wars. We beat you in both of them and we burned down the White House. And here we are for the last little while, best of friends. So things are not forever. That is a perspective I had not considered. The War of 1812 feels like ancient history to most Americans. if they remember it at all. But Haidider's point is profound. Nations that were once enemies can become the closest of allies. And by extension, relationships that seem damaged beyond repair can be rebuilt. The foundation that is allowing our economies to function as well as they are, he stressed, needs to be preserved. Are there trade irritants? Absolutely. But here is what I find troubling about the Canadian response. After the Reagan 6:00 advertisement controversy, after Trump threatened additional tariffs, there was this strange spectacle of Canadian officials apologizing, walking back their positions, softening their language. I asked Haidider directly whether this was just part of a global strategy to appeal to Donald Trump because that seems to be how everyone else in the world is getting what they want from this administration. He rejected that characterization, but his explanation was telling. He pointed out that Canada was called out on legitimate issues. Their defense spending had indeed been lagging. Border security on both sides needed improvement and Canada had been one of only two countries in the world alongside China to impose counter tariffs on the United States. That is not where you want to be. Haidider admitted it would have worked if 35 countries came along with Canada, but they did not. So, Prime Minister Carney reduced the tariffs because Canada is trying to reach a place where they can have an adult conversation 7:01 about reviewing and renewing the trade agreement. The phrase adult conversation stuck with me because I immediately wondered how you have an adult conversation with a man who mocks you as America is 51st state who refers to your prime minister as the governor of the 51st state who publicly talks about annexing your country. These are not minor rhetorical flourishes. These are statements from the president of the United States about a sovereign nation and close ally. Hyidered's response was measured but revealing. He noted that much of that rhetoric has stopped. It has not happened in quite some time. And he praised how Carney handled it. Going to the White House after his election and saying in real estate terms, I have consulted the owners. They are not interested. That apparently put an end to the annexation talk at least for now. What Haidider sees in all of this is an unexpected silver lining. Perhaps this crisis has done Canada a favor by forcing them to recognize the importance 8:00 of economic diversification. They have been trying to reduce their dependence on American markets for years. But now there is genuine urgency. The prime minister recently led a trade delegation to Asia looking to expand Canada's presence in growing middle class markets around the world. And here is the irony that Haidider pointed out. If Canada successfully diversifies and sells more goods to other countries, America might end up paying full price for products they used to get at preferential rates. The trade deficit Trump hates so much could actually grow. I want to talk about what is happening at the ground level because the statistics only tell part of the story. Canadian tourism to the United States, which was historically the number one source of inbound tourism, has absolutely plummeted this year. Most Americans do not realize that Canadians were their biggest customers, spending billions of dollars annually in American 9:00 hotels, restaurants, theme parks, and shops. That money is disappearing, and the Trump administration seems entirely unconcerned. They do not want people coming into the United States anyway, so losing Canadian tourists probably feels like a feature rather than a bug. When I asked Goldie Haidider how angry Canadians really are right now, his answer was sobering. 'It is a very emotional time up here,' he told me. 'There is a sense of betrayal. How could you do this? How did this happen? We are best friends. We are your allies. We fought wars together. We support democracy, rule of law, all of that. And so this whole elbows up thing has been surprising and the response has been emotional. He is trying to counsel patience and strategic thinking, but that is a hard cell when people feel personally wounded. Hyidered used a hockey metaphor that captures the Canadian psyche perfectly. When you are 10:02 emotional, he said, and you have your elbows up in a hockey game, you end up in the penalty box. What we have got to do is figure out how to win faceoffs, control the puck, put shots on net, and put the puck in the net. That means being deliberate and intentional about staying focused on process. Geography is not going to change. The United States represents 75% of Canadian trade. That is simple math. And that math is going to drive attention when they get to the finish line of the USMCA review. But the relationship is not just about trade and tariffs. There are human costs that extend beyond economics. This week we learned about new Trump administration requirements that could force citizens of allied countries to provide 5 years of social media handles, email addresses, family member names, and home addresses just to travel to the United States. In a World Cup year with games being hosted in North America, this 11:01 could have an enormous impact on tourism and travel. I asked Haidider as a Muslim Canadian who travels frequently to Miami and Washington whether he is worried, whether he deletes things from his phone like so many people are doing these days. His answer was defiant in the best sense. I do none of that, he said. I do not worry. I believe in the rule of law. I believe in democracy. I simply have not been intimidated or affected by any of that. I am proud to stand up for the things we do on behalf of Canadian businesses and our country is national interest and the values we cherish. It was a powerful statement, but I could not help wondering how many other people feel the same confidence. How many travelers are quietly changing their plans, avoiding America altogether rather than risk harassment or detention. Hideer tried to put the tourism decline in perspective. The United States has a $30 trillion economy. He noted the last number he saw 12:02 showed about $5.7 billion in tourism impact. It is significant, but it is not going to collapse America. Still, he acknowledged that these emotional responses are real and legitimate. He mentioned that the United States ambassador to Canada is quite upset about Canadian provinces refusing to sell American alcohol in their stores. It is a small thing in the grand scheme of international relations, but it captures the pettiness and personal nature of what has become a genuinely ugly confrontation between neighbors. What keeps me up at night about all of this is the question of where it ends. Goldie Haidider tells me he sleeps well by separating the noise from the process. He sees the USMCA review as a train that is moving forward on a clear track regardless of the president's daily provocations. He points to the 270day consultation process that the United States Trade Representative has 13:01 embarked upon leading to a mandatory report to Congress in January. There is a script here. People in the Trump orbit have told him there is a plot. We are all in a reality television show and maybe that is the key insight. Maybe understanding Trump requires accepting that the drama is the point that the threats and the posturing and the insults are performance rather than policy. Uh the administration threatened additional tariffs after the Reagan advertisement but never actually imposed them. They talk about exiting USMCA but the exemption remains in place. They mock Canada as the 51st state, but the annexation talk has faded. Perhaps the Canadian strategy of strategic patience combined with addressing legitimate grievances on defense spending and border security is actually working, but at what cost to national dignity? At what cost to the fundamental principles of how allies should treat one another? I find myself thinking about the broader implications of what we are witnessing. 14:01 This is not just about Canada and the United States. It is about the entire architecture of Western alliances that has maintained global stability since World War II. When the most powerful nation on earth treats its closest neighbor and ally like a hostile competitor. When it uses economic coercion as a first resort rather than a last one. When it publicly humiliates the leaders of friendly nations. What message does that send to the rest of the world? What does it tell our adversaries about the reliability of American commitments? What does it tell our friends about the value of American friendship? But I worry about what gets normalized in the process. I worry about a world where allied nations have to game out how to please an unpredictable American president rather than engaging in genuine partnership. I worry about the precedent being set for future administrations, both American and foreign. If this works, if Canada's strategy of patient accommodation proves successful, then every future leader 15:01 will know that bullying pays, they will know that threats and insults and economic warfare are effective tools of diplomacy. And that is a world I do not want to live in, even if it produces short-term wins for the United States. I worry most of all about the human relationships that are being damaged, the trust that is being eroded, the sense of betrayal that Haidider described among ordinary Canadians who thought they knew who their friends were. These things matter. International relations are not just about trade flows and tariff schedules. They are about people, about families that span borders, about businesses built on handshake deals and mutual respect, about the intangible but essential bonds that make cooperation possible. You cannot put a dollar figure on trust, but its absence is enormously costly. The business communities of Canada, Mexico, and the United States are apparently aligned on one thing. The USMCA needs to 16:00 be preserved through review and renewal. That is encouraging. 13 million American jobs depend on trade with Canada. American farmers rely on Canadian fertilizer. Over 500,000 of them, to be precise, depend on supplies from north of the border. American nuclear plants are being built by Canadian-owned companies that now control Westinghouse, funded by 80 billion in American government investment. The interdependence is real and profound. Even if the president does not acknowledge it, geography, as Haidider keeps reminding me, is not going to change. Canada will still be there when this administration ends and the one after that and the one after that. What strikes me is how little Americans understand about this relationship. Most people in this country do not realize that Canada is our largest trading partner, larger than China, larger than Mexico, larger than any other nation on Earth. They do not know that Canadian energy keeps American lights on, that 17:01 Canadian minerals are essential for American manufacturing, that the two economies are so integrated that products cross the border multiple times during production. They see a peaceful northern neighbor and assume that peace is natural, inevitable, requiring no maintenance or attention. But relationships between nations, like relationships between people, require constant care. They can be damaged. They can even be destroyed. Uh Haidider mentioned something that I keep coming back to. Uh he said that in some ways America has done Canada a favor by forcing them to recognize the importance of diversification. The prime minister is recent trip to Asia. Uh the push to expand trade with Europe. The effort to reduce dependence on American markets. These are all responses to the current crisis that may ultimately strengthen Canada's position. And here is the irony that should concern American policymakers. If Canada successfully 18:01 diversifies if they find other customers for their resources and products, America loses leverage. The trade deficit that Trump complains about could actually grow because Canada will not need to offer preferential terms anymore. They will have options. They will have alternatives. And Americans will pay full price for goods they used to get at a discount. So where does that leave us? I think it leaves us in a moment of genuine uncertainty, but also perhaps unexpected opportunity. Canada is diversifying its trade relationships in ways it should have done years ago. American businesses are recognizing their dependence on Canadian resources and supply chains. And the fundamental math of North American integration continues to assert itself despite the political chaos. The economic logic that created this partnership has not changed even if the political relationship has been severely strained. Companies still 19:01 need to move goods across borders efficiently. Supply chains still depend on predictable rules and stable relationships. Workers on both sides of the border still depend on jobs created by crossborder trade. The question of whether the relationship that emerges from this crucible will be stronger for having been tested or whether some essential trust has been permanently broken remains unresolved. Haidider reminded me that Canada and the United States were once enemies, that Canadian forces burned down the White House in 1814, and that nations can move from war to friendship over time. But they can also move in the other direction. They can move from friendship to something colder, something more transactional, something less trusting. And I fear that is what we are witnessing right now. A fundamental shift in how two nations that share the world is longest undefended border think about each other. I do not know the answer to where this ends. I am not sure anyone does. 20:02 The USMCA review will proceed. Negotiations will happen. Deals will be struck or they will not. But something has changed in the relationship between these two countries that goes beyond any trade agreement. A sense of reliability has been shattered. A feeling of mutual respect has been damaged. And while the economic ties may survive, the emotional bonds that made this partnership special may never fully recover. That is the real cost of what we are witnessing. And it is a cost that will not show up in any trade statistics or economic reports. But I will keep watching, keep asking questions, and keep trying to separate the noise from the signal. That is all any of us can do in times like these. 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