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SENATOR CORY BOOKER

Senator Cory Booker: Booker DEMANDS Debate on Emil Bove


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Booker DEMANDS Debate on Emil Bove: FULL

Senator Cory Booker

Jul 17, 2025

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Cory Booker Fights Back—Demands Senate Debate on Emil Bove
Peter Burgess COMMENTARY

I am happy to archive this reporting from Congress about Senator Cory Booker. It supports my view of the Senator's values and competence.

I was surprised and elighted when all the Democrats on the committee walked out in support of the Booker initiative!

Peter Burgess
Transcript
  • 0:00
  • Uh thank you very much chairman
  • Grassley. This process with uh Emil Boie
  • started with uh
  • my office as well as Senator Andy Kim
  • saying to the White House we were
  • willing to work with them to find
  • someone. The president of the United
  • States or the White House council
  • completely violated the process we had
  • agreed upon and thrust this judge onto
  • the state of New Jersey. a judge, excuse
  • me, a a a candidate, a nominee who we
  • had already written
  • letters of complaint about for his role
  • in the prosecutor's office around issues
  • around January 6th.
  • Bo directed Ed Martin to fire the
  • January 6th defendants,
  • and that was something we were actively
  • investigating
  • before he was even being considered as
  • this. Imagine any senator here having
  • somebody put in as a circuit court
  • nominee in their state when there is an
  • active investigation going on about

  • 1:01
  • something as serious as the January 6th
  • nominations. That is something that
  • everybody here would consider a
  • violation of process.
  • Now, I understand that there are folks
  • here in good faith who are looking for
  • issues and understanding, but we should
  • all know we have an obligation,
  • a duty, constitutional duty to advise
  • and consent that requires full and fair
  • consideration.
  • At this moment, there are still
  • unanswered questions surrounding this
  • nominee, evidence and data coming out,
  • at least one whistleblower
  • who's come forward.
  • Moving forward with this vote before
  • this committee has addressed
  • these issues and concerns would
  • undermine the integrity of this process.
  • Mr. Bob's answers at his hearing and
  • questions for the record raise serious
  • questions as to whether he actually
  • misled this committee, even lied to this
  • committee. Multiple members of this
  • committee have pending requests for

  • 2:00
  • critical information regarding Mr.
  • that must be fulfilled
  • for us to responsibly and thoroughly
  • evaluate this person's qualifications
  • for a lifetime appointment on the
  • federal bench. Let's start with a
  • credible whistleblower who came forward
  • with texts and emails that show that Mr.
  • Boie said FU to the courts and
  • instructed federal officials to ignore a
  • court order. The whistleblower is a
  • 15-year career lawyer at the DOJ who
  • served in Republican and Democratic
  • administrations and defended the Trump
  • administration's immigration policies
  • during the first term. This is hardly
  • someone that lacks credibility and
  • legitimacy. And he came forward at a
  • climate that we all know when folks like
  • this come forward, they are targeted
  • with hate, with threats. Yet this person
  • who has such integrity and such
  • experience daringly, courageously
  • stepped forward and this committee won't
  • even hear from him.

  • 3:02
  • I I I'm hardpressed to believe that
  • someone who dedicated 15 years to public
  • service would jeopardize their career,
  • the safety of themselves and their
  • families for no reason.
  • After learning that in 2018, members of
  • the Federal Defense Bar in SDNY may of
  • whom were former prosecutors
  • took the unprecedented step in 2018
  • of alerting Mr. Boy's supervisors of his
  • unethical conduct.
  • These are Democrats and Republicans,
  • former federal prosecutors. Many of my
  • colleagues and I on this committee
  • requested information from the SDNY
  • about any internal or external
  • complaints against him during this
  • tenure. And after weeks of outreach, we
  • haven't gotten any response. Just
  • yesterday did the DOJ respond only to
  • refuse to honor the request. And yet
  • we're moving forward. This committee is
  • moving forward without all of these
  • former prosecutors, federal prosecutors,
  • federal defenders, their legitimate

  • 4:01
  • claims
  • being heard.
  • Finally, after receiving credible
  • information, I sent a letter to Mr. Boi
  • requesting that he explain his role in
  • reviewing and withholding information
  • about the Epstein files. That's
  • something that should be basic for this
  • committee. Just give us the information.
  • He held a leadership role at the
  • Department of Justice since the
  • beginning of the Trump administration
  • after months of public statements about
  • quote unquote truckloads of documents in
  • the Epstein files. The DOJ and the FBI
  • suddenly declin decided that there's no
  • need to do any kind of disclosures.
  • There's nothing to see here. Look away.
  • Which one is it? The public has a right
  • to know. And a person being nominated
  • for one of the highest courts in our
  • land who clearly played a role in this
  • matter of grave national concern,
  • including child sex trafficking, should
  • actually we should know what he knew and
  • what he did in this matter. I've

  • 5:00
  • requested responses to these questions
  • by 9:00 a.m. this morning, and we have
  • heard nothing as a committee. And yet,
  • we're moving forward.
  • Time and time again, there are relevant
  • allegations made against this nominee by
  • independent people, by Republicans,
  • by career professionals,
  • and we are not listening to them or
  • demanding answers. These unanswered
  • questions strike at the very core of
  • whether Bo is fit for a lifetime
  • appointment on the federal bench. Does
  • he respect the rule of law? They raise
  • the alarming possibility that he
  • deliberately lied and concealed critical
  • information to these to this committee.
  • Mr. Chairman, there are federal
  • prosecutors who held accountable those
  • who attacked the US capital and
  • assaulted law enforcement on January
  • 6th. I'm grateful for my colleagues on
  • both sides of the aisle talking about
  • the severity of this issue.

  • 6:02
  • Federal prosecutors,
  • career professionals
  • have raised strong reservations about
  • Mr. Boie who had undermined their
  • legitimate work to hold accountable
  • people who did the most horrific acts of
  • violence.
  • Listen to these folks who are law
  • enforcement professionals and what
  • they're saying about Mr. Boie.
  • Several of these prosecutors reached out
  • to my Republican colleagues on this
  • committee to share their grave concerns,
  • but not one of them were met with by
  • anyone on the other side of the aisle.
  • Not even to listen to these prosecutors
  • who did their job, who faithfully served
  • the rule of law, who were instruments
  • and agents of justice. One would expect
  • that their concerns should be heard, but
  • unfortunately, not one meeting, almost
  • as if they don't want to hear the truth
  • or the facts or the details. How can you

  • 7:00
  • say you were concerned about what
  • happened on January 6th, and you won't
  • listen to the people who spent months
  • and months and months prosecuting those
  • cases?
  • How does that make sense to not even
  • want to hear from these folks who have
  • legitimate concerns, who've expressed
  • grave concerns?
  • I I don't understand why we are
  • willfully refusing to hear the
  • legitimate concerns not of politicians,
  • not of elected officials,
  • but of career folks, many of them
  • Republicans who've expressed care grave
  • concerns. One group literally said, and
  • this isn't from the time that Trump
  • nominated him. This is before he even
  • served in the in the Department of
  • Justice, a group of lawyers, federal
  • prosecutors and defendants said that he
  • is the prosecutorial version of a drunk
  • driver. He is reckless and dangerous.

  • 8:02
  • And have we asked to hear from those
  • folks?
  • Here's a guy that was given the worst
  • ever condemnation from a judge in the
  • SDNY
  • for withholding exculpatory evidence as
  • a prosecutor. There are former
  • prosecutors on this committee.
  • Imagine that kind of flaunting of the
  • rule of law,
  • the grave ethical violations in that
  • case. Imagine that we are about to put
  • that person now to be a judge.
  • That is stunning to me.
  • There is no need to vote on this nominee
  • today. It is a false urgency.
  • My guess is the White House has issued
  • orders to move this along as quickly as
  • possible. Don't let these independent
  • arbiters
  • with legitimate insight into this

  • 9:01
  • nominees qualifications don't let them
  • be heard. Dear God, we are hearing that
  • there are other whistleblowers who are
  • wondering if they should come forward.
  • We're hearing that they they are afraid
  • to come forward. They have lawyered up
  • and and we better get this thing through
  • as quickly as possible before other
  • people come through.
  • With more time, we would get more
  • answers.
  • With more times, the things that Mr.
  • Boie has done at the DOJ and throughout
  • his career would come to light, not by
  • elected officials,
  • but by legitimate people whose voices
  • should be heard. Why are we refusing to
  • hear them? Why are we silencing those
  • people? It's going to get harder and
  • harder for my colleagues to ignore the
  • truth. So, let's rush these things
  • through, but let's hear a little bit of
  • the truth. Mr. Chairman, I want to
  • submit a number of le letters into the
  • record. First, an opposition letter of
  • current and former state and federal
  • prosecutors from around the country.

  • 10:00
  • These prosecutors state, quote, 'Boy not
  • only refused to hold accountable those
  • who attacked our nation's capital and
  • attempted to block our democratic
  • process on January 6th, but he punished
  • and dismissed career justice department
  • employees who investigated and
  • prosecuted that insurrection.' Another
  • letter I'd like to submit from almost a
  • thousand former DOJ prosecutors.
  • This is unprecedented that almost a
  • thousand former DOJ prosecutors would
  • write this committee and say that they
  • are alarmed, quote, by DOJ's
  • leadership's recent
  • deviations from constitutional
  • principles and institutional guard
  • rails. They identified Mr. Boie as the
  • leader in this assault. They say it is
  • intolerable to us that anyone who
  • disgraces the Department of Justice
  • would be promoted to one of the highest
  • courts in the land. And the third letter
  • I'd like to submit is from 75 former
  • federal and state judges,
  • including a former Third Circuit judge

  • 11:00
  • who was appointed by President Bush.
  • jurists
  • are writing. This is what they say.
  • Elevating a nominee whose record
  • reflects a pattern of misconduct,
  • disregard for lawful authority and
  • political entanglement would not only
  • compromise the integrity of the courts.
  • It would set a dangerous precedent that
  • judicial power may be wielded in the
  • service of personal feely rather than
  • constitutional duty. And lastly, Mr.
  • Chairman, I'd like to submit a letter
  • from former federal prosecutors who have
  • collectively more than 450 years of
  • experience trying cases.
  • These former federal prosecutors, 450 of
  • them, urge, there is only one way this
  • committee can determine whether Mr. Boie
  • has violated a court order. It's by
  • hearing the testimony of Mr. Revene, the
  • whistleblower. Failure to take the time
  • now to do so before voting on this

  • 12:02
  • nomination will forever brand this
  • decision as rubber stamping. Mr. Mr.
  • Chairman, I I make a request and I and
  • and as I understand the rules of this
  • committee, I have the right to do that.
  • Mr. Revenue witness the DOJ leadership
  • plan to defy court orders.
  • I would like to say under I ask under
  • rule four of this rules of the committee
  • that the chairman is required to
  • entertain a non-debatable motion to
  • bring a matter before the committee for
  • a vote. I'm a making a motion to bring
  • this matter to a vote. I request a roll
  • call of this committee so that the
  • record may show that each me where each
  • member stands on allowing a
  • whistleblower,
  • an independent prosecutor who worked in
  • Democrat and Republican administrations
  • for 15 years, who courageously stepped
  • forward, who put his life at risk, who
  • is being threatened right now, who felt

  • 13:00
  • like it was worth to come forward to
  • speak to this committee. I'd like to
  • request that before voting on this
  • nominee, we would hear from this
  • nominee. I'd like a roll call vote on
  • that according to rule four of this
  • committee.
  • The clerk will call the role. Mr.
  • Uh
  • well before you call the role
  • uh first of all I do believe that uh
  • it's not on the agenda what you've
  • requested
  • and uh we uh won't uh things that I
  • haven't previewed ahead of time or on
  • the agenda. So I'm going to rule you out
  • of order. But sir, we we can in all
  • sincerity, we could we could take the
  • time. We could set the the whistleblower
  • coming next week. It would give us more
  • time
  • than enough time to review all of the
  • things that you're concerned about.
  • The level of gravity of the charges of
  • an independent prosecutor for 15 years
  • who literally has put his life on the

  • 14:00
  • line by coming forward. We could do the
  • necessary work to prepare for such a
  • hearing to hear from this prosecutor.
  • Before I call on Senator White House,
  • let me uh say that you request to put
  • things in the record. We will grant that
  • request. Uh we'll go to Boy's
  • nomination. The clerk will call the
  • role.
  • Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, point of
  • personal privilege.
  • Mr. Chairman,
  • um Mr. Chairman, according to rule four
  • of the committee, we have the right to
  • continue to debate this nomination.
  • No, I'm invoking rule four of the
  • committee, we have the right to debate
  • this nomination. You're out of seconding
  • Senator Booker's demand for a vote on
  • his request to hear from the
  • whistleblower.
  • Mr. Chairman,
  • you should at least acknowledge my rule
  • four point of order.
  • You're out of
  • I don't understand this. What are you
  • afraid of about even debating this,
  • putting things on the record, hearing
  • from every senator? Dear God, that's
  • what our obligations are is to state our

  • 15:01
  • reasons for debate. at least address the
  • rule four point of order that we're
  • calling. There's no need to rush this.
  • What are we afraid of? We're not
  • pressing for the 2-hour rule like you
  • all did when you were in the minority.
  • We're simply asking for a credible
  • amount of time to air our concerns
  • before the vote. We respect each other
  • in this committee. We respect the
  • understanding that we have things to
  • say. But yet, we're doing this in a way
  • that makes no sense to me. And it makes
  • no sense to me because we're not trying
  • to do things like force the committee to
  • close or force a two-hour rule. This is
  • about understanding that people on this
  • side have a responsibility to state
  • their issues.
  • Out of order.
  • Uh Mr. Sir, you could call me out of
  • order because this is out of order. This
  • undermines the basic decency of this
  • committee. Yes, maybe overrule a rule
  • four, but at least address the rule four
  • point of order that senators were
  • elected to debate issues and debate

  • 16:00
  • nominees. This is absolutely insane.
  • What is the rush?
  • Sir, I am interrupting because you're
  • interrupting a regular point of order.
  • At least address my point of order. I
  • have the right to do that by the rules
  • of this committee. If you want to
  • overrule the rules of committee, then do
  • so. But this is not in any way in order.
  • You are obligated to address a point of
  • order according to the rules of this
  • committee. You could overrule me by a
  • Senate vote. You're violating your own
  • rules. The parliamentarian has been
  • clear about this. The parliamentarian
  • has been clear.
  • You could overrule the rule I'm the the
  • point of order I'm doing, but you have
  • to follow the precedents and procedures
  • of this committee. This is outrageous
  • that you're not allowing senators to
  • have their fair say before a
  • controversial nominee is being done.
  • This is unbelievable. This is unjust.
  • This is wrong. It is the further
  • deterioration of this committee's

  • 17:00
  • integrity with a person like this. What
  • are you afraid of? Are you afraid of
  • hearing from Chris Coons? From hearing
  • from one of my colleagues, from hearing
  • from Adam Schiff, what is the fear here?
  • have at least the decency to have a vote
  • on my point of order regarding rule
  • four. I have respect for you, Mr.
  • Chairman. We've served together for more
  • than a decade, but this is outrageous.
  • This is unacceptable. This is wrong. It
  • is wrong.
  • And why? Why? What is the rush to take
  • another half hour to listen to people?
  • What is the rush? What are we afraid of,
  • Mr. Chairman? What are we afraid of? I
  • do not understand why senators can't
  • debate a nominee as we've done when both
  • sides have been in the majority to take
  • the time. What is the thing that you are
  • so afraid of from hearing from my Senate
  • colleagues? This is a violation
  • of the precedence of this committee.
  • We're not trying some stunt here to try

  • 18:01
  • to force a two-hour rule like you all
  • did when you were in the minority. We
  • just want to be heard before a
  • controversial vote. Sir, this is wrong
  • and you know it. You are a person of
  • integrity. How could you be doing this?
  • At least have a vote on my point of
  • order.
  • Sir, with all appeals to your decency,
  • with all appeals to your integrity, with
  • all appeals to pass jurisdiction and
  • pass president, why are you doing this?
  • This is outrageous.
  • This is a kangaroo court. That's all we
  • have here.
  • This is wrong. to violate your own rules
  • without going by the the the mandates of
  • the parliamentarian.
  • This is unbelievable.
  • There's a way to do this. If you want to
  • force this through, if you want to ram
  • this through, there's a way to do it in
  • accordance to the rules as spelled out
  • by the parliamentarian.
  • It
  • it is simple. It is clear. There's a
  • pathway to achieve what you're trying to
  • achieve. But sir, this lacks decency. It

  • 19:02
  • lacks decorum.
  • It shows that you do not want to simply
  • hear from your colleagues. This is
  • absolutely wrong. And sir, this is this
  • is to me one of those moments where we
  • are not showing common respect for each
  • other on both sides. I have sat here
  • when we were in the majority and listen
  • to my colleagues arguments, listen to
  • their passionate statements and then we
  • voted. This is not that. This is us
  • simply trying to rush through one of the
  • most controversial nominees we've had
  • under this presidential administration.
  • Sir, God bless America. You are a good
  • man. You are a decent man. Why are you
  • doing this? What is Donald Trump saying
  • to you that are making you do something
  • which is violating the decorum of this
  • committee, the rules of this committee,
  • the decency and the respect that we have
  • each other to at least hear each other
  • out?
  • Nomination. I've sat through so many
  • long speeches of my colleagues, heard

  • 20:00
  • their objections,
  • listen with with sincerity to try to see
  • what their arguments are,
  • but we are not doing that. Sir, this is
  • wrong. And you know it. There are some
  • people on this committee who are the
  • least fire brand people and they've
  • walked out.
  • Some of the least controversial people
  • in the Senate, some of the people that
  • work the hardest to find bipartisan
  • common ground have just walked out of
  • this committee and and you don't even
  • seem to care. But I know you do. I know
  • your heart, Senator Grassley. This is
  • wrong. I know the kind of person you
  • are, and you know this is wrong. There's
  • no, this is not necessary. What is
  • another half an hour to allow senators
  • to be heard? It's what the Constitution
  • mandates. It's the ideals of the United
  • States Senate, the world's most
  • deliberative body, should take a decent
  • amount of time to deliberate.
  • But here, we're not doing that. Here we
  • are jamming this through with some sense
  • of false urgency. It's one thing not to
  • hear from whistleblowers. It's another
  • thing not to hold another hearing, but

  • 21:01
  • to not even allow my colleagues to have
  • their moment to speak against this
  • justice is just wrong. And I know you
  • know this. I know you know this. The
  • only time this rule has ever been
  • overturned by both parties was done when
  • one minority was trying to pull some
  • stunt to stop the committee from
  • hearing. This is not that. This is not
  • the two-hour rule. This is a basic
  • element of the ideals of this committee.
  • Sir,
  • it is the basic understanding of having
  • debate and deliberation. It's a basic
  • understanding of we can listen to each
  • other even if we disagree. that we
  • should have time and space and a forum
  • to listen. Sir, this is just wrong in
  • every way. It is wrong in every single
  • way. This is an abuse of power. It's an
  • undermining of the well-being
  • and the integrity of this this Senate
  • and this committee that I I for so long
  • I've been so honored to be a part of. I
  • this is wrong, sir. And I join with my
  • colleagues in


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