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Peter Burgess COMMENTARY



Peter Burgess
Transcript
  • 0:00
  • Let me spend uh just a few minutes
  • talking about the situation in the world
  • right now because the last couple of
  • days have been dramatic. Now there is no
  • 0:11
  • guarantee that we avoid catastrophe
  • 0:15
  • because the world's not well led uh and
  • 0:19
  • uh the world is in a very unstable
  • 0:24
  • uh
  • 0:25
  • situation because of all the things that
  • 0:29
  • we've been discussing. uh of course the
  • 0:32
  • climate crisis, all of the upheavalss in
  • 0:37
  • the world economy, even aside from the
  • 0:40
  • interventions of uh uh leadersh
  • 0:51
  • than than I. So this is something um
  • quite dramatic. But another thing that's
  • very dramatic is the geopolitical

  • 1:00
  • changes that are underway. They are
  • 1:03
  • remarkable.
  • 1:05
  • They're very dangerous, but on the whole
  • 1:10
  • not bad. Actually, what's happening is
  • 1:13
  • that a familiar world led so-called by
  • 1:19
  • the United States and Europe is no
  • 1:22
  • longer led by the United States and
  • 1:24
  • Europe.
  • 1:25
  • uh it was presumptuous to be led by the
  • 1:28
  • United States and Europe to begin with.
  • 1:32
  • Uh it's actually the end of a very long
  • 1:35
  • cycle that dates back to 1492
  • 1:39
  • uh and onward because it started with a
  • 1:44
  • a voyage that
  • 1:47
  • was a little bit uh went arry and
  • 1:51
  • changed the world uh fundamentally.
  • 1:54
  • Um,
  • 1:56
  • and they say that
  • 1:58
  • how do you know that uh Christopher

  • 2:01
  • Columbus was an economist by the way?
  • 2:04
  • Uh,
  • 2:06
  • he didn't know where he was going. He
  • 2:08
  • didn't know where he was when he got
  • 2:10
  • there and it was all on a government
  • 2:12
  • grant. Uh, so this is part for the
  • 2:16
  • course. But um the world became a
  • 2:20
  • Europeanled world with a a lot of uh
  • 2:24
  • cruelty and a lot of inequality and a
  • 2:27
  • lot of domination. Um and with a lot of
  • 2:32
  • remarkable technological development uh
  • 2:35
  • that came along with it but that was
  • 2:38
  • utilized as a form of power and
  • 2:40
  • oppression as well. and the United
  • 2:42
  • States dominated the world for about a
  • 2:45
  • half a century after 1945.
  • 2:50
  • Now we're in a very different world and
  • 2:52
  • um the uh voices of other parts of the
  • 2:58
  • world are really important and um

  • 3:02
  • growing and that means that in the media
  • 3:05
  • and in the political life in the western
  • 3:07
  • world there's a lot more anxiety
  • 3:09
  • actually than there is in China for
  • 3:12
  • example or in India where it's not
  • 3:15
  • pessimistic. It's not feeling that the
  • 3:17
  • world's falling apart. It's feeling that
  • 3:19
  • the world is changing in the right
  • 3:21
  • direction actually and I would say if
  • 3:24
  • you look at opinion surveys in Africa
  • 3:26
  • there's a tremendous amount of optimism
  • 3:28
  • actually Africa is the most optimistic
  • 3:30
  • single continent uh in the world uh if
  • 3:33
  • you look at opinion surveys so the
  • 3:37
  • world's changing and it leads to a lot
  • 3:40
  • of anxiety and the anxiety is highest in
  • 3:42
  • the United States because nobody likes
  • 3:45
  • to be pushed off the perch. Uh but the
  • 3:48
  • fact of the matter is um the world's
  • 3:51
  • becoming a lot more interesting,
  • 3:53
  • diverse, interconnected.
  • 3:56
  • You're a very diverse group, but not
  • 3:58
  • quite diverse enough. There aren't are

  • 4:01
  • there any Chinese faces here? No,
  • 4:04
  • we have somebody from Hong Kong.
  • 4:06
  • Okay, good. Hong Kong, we were just
  • 4:07
  • there. It's wonderful. Uh and India.
  • 4:12
  • Great. Okay. So between the two, you're
  • 4:16
  • 40% of the world population. Uh but not
  • 4:19
  • not exactly 40% of this room. So it's
  • 4:22
  • just to say we don't have to have a
  • 4:26
  • complete demographic equality. But
  • 4:29
  • you're a very diverse group, which is
  • 4:31
  • extremely important, very important. Uh
  • 4:34
  • and um the world's even more diverse, if
  • 4:37
  • I could put it that way. So we need to
  • 4:39
  • strive for uh for that. and viewed
  • 4:44
  • in that perspective. My own view is
  • 4:49
  • I'll say a grim statement and then an
  • 4:52
  • optimistic statement. If we don't blow
  • 4:54
  • things up, which is possible, then
  • 4:57
  • things are going to be okay. uh and by

  • 5:01
  • that I mean the world that is taking
  • 5:03
  • shape will be more equal, more open,
  • 5:07
  • actually benefiting from a lot of the
  • 5:10
  • breakthroughs in technology.
  • 5:12
  • The real worry I have is just disaster
  • 5:16
  • in the in the short term because
  • 5:19
  • my country is the worst lead that it's
  • 5:21
  • ever been and our political system has
  • 5:23
  • collapsed. So we have one person rule
  • 5:26
  • which is not exactly the way to run a a
  • 5:29
  • society of 335 million people and 30
  • 5:32
  • trillion dollars of output but that's
  • 5:36
  • what what we have for the moment. But if
  • 5:38
  • we can avoid the catastrophes, we
  • 5:40
  • actually not just rhetorically and not
  • 5:43
  • just optimistically, we really have a
  • 5:45
  • lot of solutions in this world for food
  • 5:49
  • production, for sustainable energy, for
  • 5:53
  • uh better education and health care
  • 5:56
  • systems, for all sorts of things that
  • 5:58
  • are completely wonderful.

  • 6:02
  • They're not they're getting discovered.
  • 6:04
  • They're getting developed. You're
  • 6:05
  • pioneering many of them. They're not
  • 6:07
  • getting undertaken at any at the scale
  • 6:10
  • that they need and the pace that they
  • 6:11
  • need by any means, but they could be
  • 6:15
  • because there's no
  • 6:17
  • fundamental
  • 6:19
  • shortfall of resources or knowhow. We're
  • 6:23
  • not running out of particular minerals
  • 6:26
  • so that we can't do this. We're not
  • 6:28
  • running out of land so that we're in a
  • 6:31
  • struggle for who eats and who doesn't
  • 6:34
  • eat. We're not running out of energy
  • 6:36
  • because solar radiation
  • 6:40
  • is about 5,000 times our power usage on
  • 6:44
  • the planet. So if we deploy uh solar
  • 6:48
  • power which is now cheaper than any
  • 6:50
  • other kind of power
  • 6:53
  • we're not in an energy shortage as well.
  • 6:57
  • We're not in a knowhow shortage but we

  • 7:00
  • are in a fairness shortage. We're in a
  • 7:03
  • niceness shortage. We're in a calmness
  • 7:06
  • shortage. Uh we're in a geopolitical
  • 7:09
  • crisis. And we are with a lot of
  • 7:12
  • instability from all of the upheavalss
  • 7:16
  • of climate which are going to get worse
  • 7:18
  • for the next 50 years almost no matter
  • 7:21
  • what we do. Because underlying our
  • 7:25
  • physical reality is a lot of warming
  • 7:28
  • built into the system and a lot of
  • 7:30
  • shocks that will come from that. That
  • 7:32
  • doesn't mean that the impacts
  • 7:34
  • necessarily get worse because things can
  • 7:36
  • get buffered. We can become more
  • 7:38
  • resilient. We can become adapted. But
  • 7:41
  • the climate itself is going to become
  • 7:43
  • more dangerous shortly.
  • 7:46
  • So this is our state of affairs.
  • 7:50
  • Now what specifically happened yesterday
  • 7:53
  • was the US
  • 7:56
  • declared itself outside of the world
  • 7:59
  • trade system. Two weeks ago, the US

  • 8:01
  • declared itself outside of the climate
  • 8:04
  • challenge. Uh, three weeks ago, the US
  • 8:07
  • declared itself out of the
  • 8:08
  • sustainability challenge. Four weeks
  • 8:11
  • ago, the US declared itself outside of
  • 8:13
  • the WH.
  • 8:15
  • All right.
  • 8:17
  • Honestly, it doesn't get dumber than
  • 8:19
  • this,
  • 8:20
  • really. But the US is 4.1% of the world
  • 8:25
  • population. And as I said the other 95%
  • 8:30
  • I don't see things diminishing in
  • 8:34
  • intensity of purpose but rather
  • 8:36
  • increasing and there are a lot of very
  • 8:39
  • good things that are happening even
  • 8:41
  • because of the United States strangeness
  • 8:44
  • of behavior right now. For example,
  • 8:47
  • China and India which have been at
  • 8:50
  • loggerheads for
  • 8:53
  • 60 years for a more than that for almost
  • 8:57
  • 80 years for a complicated reason that
  • 8:59
  • the British drew a an arbitrary

  • 9:03
  • borderline in the Himalayas. uh and that
  • 9:06
  • has meant border dispute and conflict
  • 9:09
  • between China and India since India
  • 9:11
  • gained independence in 1947 and the
  • 9:14
  • people's republic of China was formed in
  • 9:16
  • 1949 and they're still fighting over a
  • 9:18
  • line that a guy named name named McMahon
  • 9:21
  • drew arbitrarily in 1880 never having
  • 9:25
  • been up to the Himalayas where he drew
  • 9:26
  • the line and there is by the way a
  • 9:29
  • theorem that I kind of subscribe to that
  • 9:31
  • all problems in the world go back to the
  • 9:33
  • British Um, so that's true in the Middle
  • 9:36
  • East. It's true in the Himalayas. It's
  • 9:38
  • true in much much of the world. Yes,
  • 9:41
  • it's true all over Africa. It is
  • 9:43
  • actually a very good rule of thumb. It's
  • 9:46
  • not it's not quite a proven theorem, but
  • 9:49
  • it's a very good rule of thumb. Um, in
  • 9:52
  • any event, the Indian and Chinese
  • 9:56
  • foreign ministers got together and said,
  • 9:57
  • 'What are we fighting about? Uh, we
  • 10:00
  • should trade more. We should invest
  • 10:01
  • more.' And then very positive statements
  • 10:04
  • came from Prime Minister Modi and from
  • 10:06
  • President Xi. Then uh last week three
  • 10:09
  • other countries that are at loggerheads
  • 10:11
  • for no reason in the world. Honestly,
  • 10:15
  • China, Korea, and Japan.
  • 10:20
  • They are divided because the United
  • 10:22
  • States says you're on our side and
  • 10:23
  • they're the enemy. Uh to China and Japan
  • 10:27
  • and I mean to Korea and Japan visa v
  • 10:30
  • China. The three got together because
  • 10:32
  • they see the US not such a great you
  • 10:36
  • know protector of their interests and
  • 10:39
  • they said we need to improve relations
  • 10:43
  • with each other. This is very very good.
  • 10:47
  • And if you think about Iran and Saudi
  • 10:51
  • Arabia for example, which was defined by
  • 10:55
  • the US to be the uh you know the the the

  • 11:01
  • fundamental schism of Shia and Sunni and
  • 11:05
  • so much of US policy was playing the
  • 11:08
  • Sunnis against Shia, Iran and so forth.
  • 11:12
  • They made a raproma last year
  • 11:16
  • which China helped to broker in a very
  • 11:19
  • wise way. The United States would never
  • 11:21
  • have done it and never even have thought
  • 11:23
  • about it. But uh China was very helpful.
  • 11:27
  • So truly
  • 11:29
  • I'm not so pessimistic at all. I just
  • 11:32
  • see the world changing and I can
  • 11:34
  • understand the pessimism in the
  • 11:37
  • newspapers that I happen to read in the
  • 11:40
  • US because they're all geared around the
  • 11:42
  • idea of the US as number one. And if you
  • 11:46
  • put that aside, I like a world in which
  • 11:50
  • China's playing a much larger role and
  • 11:52
  • India's playing a much larger role and
  • 11:54
  • the African Union's playing a much
  • 11:56
  • larger role and Saudi Arabia is playing
  • 11:58
  • a much larger role. To me, this a great

  • 12:00
  • world. It's it's a world of diversity,
  • 12:03
  • much better food, uh much better
  • 12:06
  • conversation, much better places to
  • 12:08
  • visit, much more fun uh in uh
  • 12:11
  • conferences and meetings and problem
  • 12:13
  • solving and all the rest. Uh but if you
  • 12:17
  • just happen to be a US strategist, it
  • 12:19
  • looks very grim and dangerous and so
  • 12:23
  • forth. So I don't buy into the danger
  • 12:27
  • part. I do buy into well I do buy into
  • 12:30
  • the danger part for the reasons I said
  • 12:32
  • but I don't buy into the inevitability
  • 12:34
  • of crisis. So what I would really like
  • 12:39
  • you guys to do is to stay on the
  • 12:43
  • the networking course and the practical
  • 12:46
  • course and the problemolving
  • 12:49
  • course and
  • 12:52
  • I want us to help you to do that. Uh so
  • 12:58
  • and just to be very clear, you know,
  • 13:01
  • SDSN youth is not to empower youth per
  • 13:05
  • se. It's to help solve global problems

  • 13:08
  • of which you have a lot of solutions. So
  • 13:11
  • that's a little bit different. Uh
  • 13:15
  • we have a little more access than you do
  • 13:17
  • to some places uh being older and gray
  • 13:22
  • hair, but you uh know how to fix our
  • 13:26
  • phones and computers a lot better than
  • 13:28
  • we do uh and what's going on with the
  • 13:31
  • the latest apps and how to use them and
  • 13:34
  • so forth. And that's actually unique
  • 13:37
  • knowledge in our world right now. Um,
  • 13:39
  • and so it's really important that you're
  • 13:42
  • at the table. It's true you should be at
  • 13:44
  • the table for two reasons. One, to
  • 13:47
  • protect the interests of your generation
  • 13:49
  • against uh uh 78-year-old US presidents
  • 13:53
  • that don't know how to think ahead. So
  • 13:56
  • that's true, but I don't think that's
  • 13:58
  • the main reason you should be at the

  • 14:00
  • table. The main reason you should be at
  • 14:02
  • the table is you can help move this
  • 14:03
  • agenda forward in a very significant
  • 14:06
  • way. So I had good experience when I was
  • 14:11
  • young. I
  • 14:13
  • luckily thrust into places where I could
  • 14:17
  • do something at an early stage of my
  • 14:20
  • career. And um thank God it worked cuz
  • 14:23
  • otherwise that would have been the end
  • 14:25
  • of it. Uh but in any event um
  • 14:29
  • you can do a lot but I also know um we
  • 14:33
  • can help you uh too because you learn
  • 14:37
  • you learn a lot actually along the way
  • 14:40
  • as well. Um every day I learn something
  • 14:45
  • that I say I cannot believe I didn't
  • 14:48
  • know that for the last 50 years of
  • 14:52
  • trying to know what I know. and pretty
  • 14:55
  • fundamental stuff every day, which is
  • 14:58
  • weird to me actually cuz by now it

  • 15:00
  • should be kind of wrote, but it's not
  • 15:02
  • wrote at all. There's just so much to
  • 15:04
  • learn. And I kind of walk around my
  • 15:07
  • whole life with a book in my hand or now
  • 15:09
  • with a with an ebook or on my phone or
  • 15:12
  • something reading, reading, reading
  • 15:14
  • every day and learning pretty basic
  • 15:16
  • things actually, which is annoying. Uh
  • 15:20
  • really annoying because it should have
  • 15:22
  • been done already. uh but it's not. So
  • 15:25
  • all of that is to say we can help you uh
  • 15:28
  • and I can help you and I can help you
  • 15:30
  • network and I can help you learn things.
  • 15:33
  • So don't presume you know everything but
  • 15:36
  • don't presume that you don't know what
  • 15:39
  • you're seeing with your own eyes about
  • 15:41
  • things that can be done. So that's
  • 15:44
  • really the balance that's extremely
  • 15:46
  • important. Now,
  • 15:52
  • what's going to happen after 2030? Let
  • 15:54
  • me say a few words about that because
  • 15:56
  • you're going to play a big role in that.
  • 15:58
  • Um,

  • 16:02
  • obviously, we're not going to achieve
  • 16:04
  • what we set out to achieve in 20 2015,
  • 16:08
  • September 25th, 2015, when Pope Francis
  • 16:12
  • ushered in the sustainable development
  • 16:14
  • goals at the UN. The agenda was pretty
  • 16:17
  • optimistic beforehand
  • 16:19
  • at the time. It was very stretch goals.
  • 16:23
  • It would have required a lot of
  • 16:28
  • capacity and working together to make
  • 16:31
  • them happen. Um,
  • 16:34
  • of course, we just didn't get the major
  • 16:37
  • powers to work very hard on any of this.
  • 16:39
  • Uh, the only one that made a major
  • 16:42
  • effort in my view was China. Actually uh
  • 16:45
  • Europe said a few things at the
  • 16:48
  • beginning but Europe got caught in this
  • 16:51
  • Ukraine war which to my mind was a just
  • 16:55
  • a disastrous
  • 16:57
  • mistake because the United States

  • 17:00
  • doesn't know how to make peace and uh
  • 17:03
  • blew the chance after 1991 to help in
  • 17:08
  • help create a true collective security
  • 17:11
  • arrangement in Europe. Instead, it
  • 17:13
  • expanded NATO. But I don't want to go
  • 17:15
  • there. Just to say the US didn't try,
  • 17:18
  • Europe didn't try very much. China
  • 17:20
  • launched the Bel and Road Initiative,
  • 17:22
  • which is very big and positive thing. Uh
  • 17:26
  • Africa launched the African continental
  • 17:28
  • free trade area, which is a very
  • 17:30
  • important thing uh and a very positive
  • 17:33
  • development.
  • 17:35
  • But the world as a whole for the major
  • 17:38
  • powers didn't try very hard. So we're
  • 17:41
  • reaching and
  • 17:44
  • I don't want to go into it but my view
  • 17:47
  • is the US at the University of North
  • 17:51
  • Carolina concocted something called SARS
  • 17:54
  • cove 2 and made a pandemic. That's
  • 17:56
  • another long story. Uh but um

  • 18:01
  • we just lost a lot of time. So what are
  • 18:03
  • we going to do? My hope personally and
  • 18:07
  • this is something we can discuss longer
  • 18:09
  • is that we continue under the framework
  • 18:13
  • of the sustainable development goals.
  • 18:16
  • And the reason is it's taken 10 years to
  • 18:20
  • have governments understand a bit about
  • 18:23
  • how to make such a complicated
  • 18:25
  • multi-dimensional
  • 18:27
  • programming process because it's not
  • 18:30
  • simple to do this to plan for 17 major
  • 18:34
  • objectives long-term planning strategy
  • 18:38
  • and so forth. Now the goals won't stay
  • 18:40
  • exactly the same but I don't want to
  • 18:42
  • redo everything to have a new set of
  • 18:45
  • goals and uh a new framework because
  • 18:49
  • honestly to my mind it would be
  • 18:53
  • it it may be constructive in bringing
  • 18:56
  • new voices in to be sure. So I don't
  • 18:58
  • want to rule out deliberations which

  • 19:00
  • will take place but I don't think we
  • 19:02
  • should throw out everything because it
  • 19:04
  • just would be a major loss in time sync
  • 19:07
  • and in our world today the US will walk
  • 19:09
  • away from the table anyway and it just
  • 19:11
  • may be very hard to get a framework
  • 19:15
  • other framework. So I'm hoping we
  • 19:17
  • continue under this broad rubric
  • 19:20
  • resetting
  • 19:22
  • adding no doubt something about
  • 19:24
  • artificial intelligence as SDG-18 or
  • 19:27
  • repackaging uh repackaging some of the
  • 19:30
  • uh objectives and so on but to keep this
  • 19:34
  • framework to midentury because the next
  • 19:38
  • period to my mind is is to 2050 is to
  • 19:42
  • midcentury and that's in fact what we
  • 19:45
  • need to decarbonize the energy system.
  • 19:48
  • It's what we need to transform
  • 19:50
  • agriculture. It's what we need to create
  • 19:54
  • a a workable digital
  • 19:56
  • society in which good things rather than

  • 20:00
  • bad things happen with these new
  • 20:02
  • technologies and so forth. So that's
  • 20:05
  • what I think we will be what I am going
  • 20:08
  • to be aiming for in the next few years.
  • 20:11
  • This will probably be decided more or
  • 20:13
  • less around 27 or 2027 or 2028. So there
  • 20:18
  • will be a UN process. Uh the next
  • 20:21
  • secretary general will assign a
  • 20:23
  • commission probably. There'll be a
  • 20:25
  • deliberations. You'll be involved in
  • 20:28
  • national level and global processes and
  • 20:31
  • youth ambassadors and many ways. and we
  • 20:34
  • should really strategize together about
  • 20:37
  • this and you should make further
  • 20:38
  • outreach to other groups uh in order to
  • 20:41
  • do this.
  • 20:46
  • One basic point is that
  • 20:51
  • what makes all of this very hard is
  • 20:55
  • thinking ahead
  • 20:57
  • on a time horizon and a complexity

  • 21:00
  • longer than governments know how to do.
  • 21:03
  • So if you want to change the energy
  • 21:05
  • system, it's not a one year or a 5year
  • 21:09
  • or a 10year process. You really have to
  • 21:12
  • be able to think about 25 years or 30
  • 21:15
  • years and basic changes of technology
  • 21:18
  • and learn how to put that into a real
  • 21:22
  • political process and so forth. And this
  • 21:25
  • is what I find most governments don't
  • 21:27
  • know how to do effectively. Again, China
  • 21:31
  • is better at planning in this way than
  • 21:33
  • any other government that I know among
  • 21:35
  • the major governments. Europe's not bad
  • 21:38
  • at setting goals, but it then doesn't
  • 21:41
  • necessarily actually create the uh the
  • 21:44
  • planning to deliver them very
  • 21:46
  • effectively.
  • 21:48
  • I'll say also I have huge hopes,
  • 21:50
  • expectations, and demands of the African
  • 21:53
  • Union in the coming years. There's a new
  • 21:57
  • AU commission that just came into office

  • 22:00
  • on March 15
  • 22:03
  • and Africa needs to make a breakthrough
  • 22:06
  • in the next 30 years. It can't go on
  • 22:09
  • like this with many conflicts, with kids
  • 22:13
  • not in school, with the systems not
  • 22:16
  • working, with electricity not reaching
  • 22:19
  • still hundreds of millions of people.
  • 22:22
  • And that's what we were discussing in
  • 22:24
  • the financing for development workshop
  • 22:27
  • that we had earlier this week. How to
  • 22:30
  • make those breakthroughs. So, one thing
  • 22:33
  • I'm asking of you is helping to instill
  • 22:37
  • the idea of really basic transformation
  • 22:42
  • uh in your countries, regions, and since
  • 22:47
  • we're going to do it together at a at a
  • 22:50
  • world scale that yes, we really can
  • 22:53
  • create a better future. And it's not
  • 22:57
  • only wish fulfillment, it's actually
  • 22:59
  • very practical work. Very for me, by the

  • 23:03
  • way, uh I I caught uh who had a slide
  • 23:08
  • that I think uh Chened about the
  • 23:11
  • importance of education as being fun
  • 23:13
  • absolutely fundamental. Was that you
  • 23:16
  • Chenade?
  • 23:17
  • Yeah. In any event, okay,
  • 23:21
  • there are probably 300 million kids not
  • 23:25
  • even in school right now and we have to
  • 23:29
  • absolutely say no. Are you kidding? Not
  • 23:34
  • another school year like this. This is
  • 23:38
  • crazy. And the reason they're not in
  • 23:40
  • school in some places is because of
  • 23:43
  • conflict and displacement. But for
  • 23:47
  • at least 200 250 million kids is because
  • 23:50
  • the governments don't have the funds to
  • 23:53
  • hire teachers to have the schools and so
  • 23:56
  • forth. And I want to have a fit

  • 24:00
  • together with you
  • 24:03
  • to the powers that be that this cannot
  • 24:05
  • go on any longer. You cannot leave kids
  • 24:10
  • out of school in this world. They cannot
  • 24:14
  • have a future that way. This is the most
  • 24:17
  • basic point of everything that we're
  • 24:20
  • trying to do. Everything, every one of
  • 24:23
  • you had the fortune and you probably had
  • 24:27
  • a lot of struggles, twists and turns,
  • 24:29
  • good luck, parents that helped, friends
  • 24:31
  • that helped, family that helped somehow
  • 24:34
  • that you could get an education.
  • 24:36
  • But I think that's the first thing we
  • 24:39
  • really need to do is to put our foot
  • 24:41
  • down and say no more faking it to
  • 24:47
  • any to the host countries but they don't
  • have the money to the IMF to the World
  • Bank to China to anyone else. You got to
  • help make sure that all the kids are in
  • school. Period. And then there are all

  • 25:03
  • the other issues that we're dealing
  • with. I won't belabor the point any
  • longer because I know the time is time
  • is short but let's you guys are really
  • important in this process and to add to
  • your importance connect with others that
  • you think we need to bring into this
  • process cuz this is a very powerful
  • group that can really make a huge
  • difference and can really by the way you
  • can help the older
  • ministers in the government, the
  • presidents and so forth understand this
  • is no joke. This is real for your
  • societies. This really can be done. You
  • can tell them Professor Sax said so and
  • that they got to get on with it and that
  • we're here to help and we're going to
  • get the financing that they need. That
  • was we really are going to get the
  • financing that governments need, but you

  • 26:00
  • need to help lay out the plans,
  • the ideas, very operational, the
  • wonderful things that can be done uh and
  • really inspire
  • your countries and your friends and uh
  • your the businesses your


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