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HOUTI ATTACKS ON SHIPPING

What's Going on With Shipping? Who Pays for the Red Sea?
Shipping and Marine Insurance | Where were the EU and US navies?


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Who Pays for the Red Sea? | Shipping and Marine Insurance | Where were the EU and US navies?

What's Going on With Shipping?

Jul 11, 2025

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In this episode, Sal Mercogliano — a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner — discusses the sinking of MV Magic Seas and Eternity C and the issue regarding War Risk Insurance and Additional Premiums; where was the European Union Operation Aspides and US 5th Fleet; and what does this mean for the consumer?

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  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 02:43 Background on sinking of Magic Seas and Eternity C
  • 06:03 Does Insurance Cover the Ships?
  • 12:59 Threat to Merchant Mariners
  • 14:02 Where was the Navy?
  • 16:37 What does Houthi Unrestricted Warfare mean for Shipping?
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Peter Burgess COMMENTARY



Peter Burgess
Transcript
  • Introduction
  • 0:00
  • on this episode of what's going on with
  • shipping. Who pays for the Red Sea? I'm
  • your host, Sal Magaliano. Welcome to
  • this episode. So, we have been tracking
  • what has been transpiring in and around
  • the Red Sea since November of 2023 when
  • 0:15
  • the Houthi made their attack against the
  • 0:18
  • motor vessel Galaxy Leader, seizing the
  • 0:20
  • vessel, capturing the crew, and holding
  • 0:22
  • the crew hostage for over a year. What
  • 0:26
  • we've seen happen over the course of the
  • 0:28
  • year has been a massive campaign
  • 0:31
  • executed by the Houthi against
  • 0:33
  • commercial shipping and then retaliation
  • 0:36
  • strikes launched by the Israelis, the
  • 0:38
  • United States, the United Kingdom. Uh
  • 0:40
  • we've seen the diversion of shipping
  • 0:42
  • from this region to go around Africa and
  • 0:46
  • previously we've seen the sinking of two
  • ships, the Ruby and the Tutor. And in
  • December of 2024, we saw the campaign by
  • the Houthis really peter out. It was
  • seems to have been ended largely because

  • 1:02
  • of a ceasefire that went on between
  • Israel and Gaza and Hamas and because
  • the Houthi had been damaged quite
  • severely. There was the initiation of a
  • large campaign initially launched by the
  • Israelis and then by the United States
  • Operation Ruff Rider that appeared to
  • have damaged the Houthi and their
  • ability to stage attacks. Well,
  • beginning of July that all changes. What
  • we see here is the loss of two ships in
  • the first week of July. The Magic Seas
  • on the left and the Eternity Sea on the
  • right. And this represents a big uptick
  • in Houthi attacks because of the dead
  • crew members on the Eternity S4. Five
  • others are missing. Six have been
  • grabbed by the Houthy. And this is
  • causing a lot of consternation when it
  • comes to global shipping. What we're
  • going to focus on today is talking about
  • the cost. We're going to talk about the
  • financial cost. Who pays for the loss of
  • these vessels? uh who is going to assume

  • 2:01
  • the mantle of providing protection in
  • and around this region because I have to
  • say there was no apparent naval forces
  • in the area. Uh the crew from the Magic
  • Seas was picked up by a passing
  • commercial vessel and then the Eternity
  • Sea was picked up by a hodgepodge of
  • different groups who were in the area.
  • What was starkly missing was any naval
  • presence at all. European Union, US,
  • anybody. there didn't seem to be anybody
  • in and around the area and we're going
  • to talk about that. And then finally,
  • what does it mean for you, the consumer,
  • for this style of attack in terms of
  • disrupting global shipping? If you're
  • new to the channel, hey, take a moment,
  • subscribe to the channel, and hit the
  • bell so you be alerted about new videos
  • as they come out. So, first I want to

  • Background on sinking of Magic Seas and Eternity C
  • 2:44
  • give a big shout out to Lloyd's List
  • 2:46
  • Intelligence, who has given me access to
  • 2:49
  • their database system, the Sea Searcher.
  • 2:51
  • It's great. It provides you a lot of
  • 2:53
  • information on vessels at a single
  • 2:56
  • touch. It's really nice. What usually
  • 2:58
  • had taken me multiple sources to go

  • 3:01
  • through, I can kind of pull it together
  • here. This is for Magic Seas. Uh you'll
  • see the ship is a Liberian flagged
  • Greektondown vessel. The ship in
  • question was sailing from China to
  • Turkey with a load of iron and
  • fertilizer. When you look at ownership
  • of this vessel, you'll see the ship is
  • Greekowned. There is a Liberian shell
  • company out there. This is very typical
  • in shipping. you create a shell company
  • to put a ship under so that if the ship
  • is sued, there's no assets in the
  • company except for the ship itself. But
  • this company in particular here, uh, the
  • Bedrao family, who's the beneficial
  • owner, the ship is managed by Stem
  • Shipping, one of the arguments that the
  • Houthi put out here for attacking this
  • ship, was that the parent company had
  • ships that went in and out of Israel.
  • Therefore, even though this ship didn't
  • go in and out of Israel, it's because of
  • ships within the company going in and
  • out of Israel. This ship is subject to
  • attack. That's right. Six degrees of

  • 4:00
  • separation of Kevin Bacon is the
  • strategy adopted by the Houthies. I
  • should say that based on that strategy,
  • one out of every six ships sailing on
  • the oceans today. There's about 100,000
  • ships sailing on the oceans today. About
  • 15,000 ships fall under that criteria.
  • That's kind of a stretch there,
  • Houthies. That's even for you. That's a
  • that's a big stretch. Now, second vessel
  • eternity seas also Liberian flagged,
  • also Greek owned. In this case, this
  • ship had sailed from Houston, Texas down
  • to Barabara in Somalia. It was
  • offloading UN World Food Aid soybeans to
  • Somalia. It had some residual cargo left
  • in it. According to the Lloyds,
  • approximately 1,400 tons. They were
  • sailing north in the Red Sea to Jedha in
  • Saudi Arabia, more than likely to
  • offload that remaining cargo for
  • distribution via smaller vessels to
  • Sudan and Eratria in and around the Red
  • Sea when the ship was attacked. And much
  • like we saw with Magic Seas, same thing

  • 5:01
  • here for Eternity Sea. In this case, the
  • ship again Greek owned. Uh we see a
  • variety of Greek companies here. Cosmo
  • ship management in there. We see that
  • Liberian shell company in this case
  • Guilford Navigation as the registered
  • owner. In the case of Eternity Sea, what
  • the Houthi alleged is the ship wasn't
  • going to Jedha, but was going to the
  • southern Israeli port of a lot. There's
  • no indication from the AIS, the
  • automatic identification system, that
  • the ship was going to a lot. A lot
  • declared bankruptcy. It had basically
  • closed down as an operational port. All
  • of Israeli port management is basically
  • done through the Mediterranean ports
  • now. So very unclear why an empty bulker
  • would have been going up to Israel after
  • offloading in Somalia. It doesn't
  • doesn't make a lot of sense. But again,
  • this this is the Houthi. They tend not
  • to make a lot of sense when they stage
  • their levels of attacks against
  • commercial shipping. But what is clear
  • is this is a Greekowned Liberian flagged

  • 6:00
  • vessel, multinational crew on board.

  • Does Insurance Cover the Ships?
  • 6:03
  • That gets us into the issue of
  • insurance. Now understand ship
  • insurance. There are two types of
  • insurance on a ship. There's what's
  • called H&M, hull and machinery. That is
  • the vessel itself. And then there's PNI
  • uh protection and indemnity. That is the
  • cargo on the vessel. And then there's
  • war risk. Now ships usually carry a type
  • of war risk insurance on them because
  • you never know where this may happen.
  • However, there are areas designated
  • around the world where you need
  • additional protection. We're going to
  • talk about that. Well, in the case of
  • the Magic Seas, this story over at
  • Lloyds by David Osler, Vessel Protect
  • has 100% war risk line on Magic Seas.
  • The Handymax, that's the size of vessel
  • that the Magic Seas was, was hit by the
  • Houthies on Sunday. The estimated whole
  • value is around $40 million. The bulker
  • entered with the Swedish club for its
  • PNI coverage. And so, it appears as if
  • Magic Seas is covered. the insurance

  • 7:00
  • company will pay out on the vessel. Crew
  • had been saved, deposited in Djibouti.
  • So, vessel protect comes under that full
  • protection. We're going to see a payout
  • by the insurance companies. Now, I
  • should note that one of the big winners
  • over the past year and ever how many
  • months it's been since this started in
  • the Red Sea has been insurance
  • companies. Even though 40% of ships are
  • going around Africa right now, the ships
  • that are sailing through this area have
  • to pay war risk insurance. It was up to
  • about 1% the value of the shipping and
  • cargo for war risk and very few ships
  • have been hit or damaged during the
  • Houthi campaign. We estimate about 130
  • ships have been attacked. Two ships
  • previous to this have been sunk damaged
  • to maybe a dozen others. In terms of the
  • payout by the insurance companies, it's
  • been very little. Insurance companies
  • are great, man. They just rake in those
  • those those premiums and they don't ever
  • want to pay out. It's no difference with
  • car, life insurance, or ship insurance.
  • And that's what we see right here. So,

  • 8:00
  • vessel Protect paid out on the Magic
  • Seas. However, Eternity Sea is a
  • different matter. Here's another Dave
  • story, Dave Oler story. Travelers named
  • as insurer that declined war coverage
  • for EternityC. The decision swerved a
  • big payout. Vessel total loss with four
  • dead, five still missing. Insurance
  • status of the bulk carrier is unclear.
  • All right, let me break this down for
  • you. So, the Eternity C had war risk
  • insurance on it. However, what Travelers
  • is saying, and yes, Travelers Insurance,
  • that is the insurance company in the
  • United States that some of you will be
  • familiar with. What Travelers is saying
  • is that EternityC basically violated
  • their coverage for a couple of reasons.
  • One, Cosmo Shipping, which is the
  • operator of the vessel, had vessels of
  • its company going in and out of Israel,
  • and that made it a target for the
  • Houthi. Second, the ship did not get the
  • additional protection required for
  • sailing through the designated war zone.

  • 9:02
  • What do I mean by that? This is the UK
  • war risk site. Now, UK war risk sets war
  • risk insurance around the world. It's
  • not just for the United Kingdom. And
  • they designate these high risk areas.
  • And they have here the additional
  • premiums map so that if you sail into
  • these areas, you will require additional
  • coverage. As it says here, the ports,
  • places, countries, zones, or areas
  • listed in this section are all
  • additional premium areas as defined by
  • club rules rule 19. The ports, places,
  • countries, zones, and areas listed shall
  • include all harbors, offshore
  • installations, and terminals unless
  • otherwise stated. These areas are
  • considered much more likely to be
  • affected by war risk and so represent a
  • significantly greater risk to ships that
  • visit them. So this is the additional
  • premium areas map put out by UK war
  • risk. This is for and I'll show you the
  • the full planet here. This is page one.
  • Shows you South America but more
  • importantly for us Africa and the Middle
  • East. And here you see the Gulf of

  • 10:01
  • Aiden, Indian Ocean, Babel Mandab and
  • the Southern Red Sea. All of these areas
  • require additional premium. Same thing
  • up here in the Straits of Hormuz. And
  • then over in Europe and Russia, areas in
  • and around Russia require it. And then
  • down in the Black Sea, we can see how
  • the northern Black Sea has those
  • additional areas of risk and protection.
  • So if you steam into those areas, you
  • have to pay an additional premium. Now,
  • typically you're paying maybe a fraction
  • of a percent on a warrisk policy, 0.01.
  • It could even be lower than that in some
  • areas depending on where your routes
  • are. Note that war risk premium
  • insurance is not a set rate. You you go
  • to insurance providers and you get your
  • insurance from them. So just like every
  • you know 30-year-old with a sports car
  • who goes out to get you know insurance
  • is going to get a different quote from a
  • different provider. It's very similar to
  • that in terms of shipping. So we see
  • this story by Reuters over G Captain.

  • 11:00
  • War risk premiums surge amid renewed Red
  • Sea attacks. What I wanted to highlight
  • is this. War risk premiums have risen to
  • around.7% of the value of the ship from
  • around.3% last week before the latest
  • attacks took place. Sources familiar
  • with the matter said rates for a typical
  • 7-day voyage and that's usually what you
  • buy is a 7-day voyage period which are
  • set by individual underwriters have been
  • quoted this week up to 1% matching the
  • peak level in 2024
  • to Neil Roberts who's the head of marine
  • and aviation from the Lloyd's Market
  • Association. a fantastic person to know.
  • Uh just a fountain of wealth of
  • information. Quote, 'The recent attacks
  • in the Red Sea have highlighted the need
  • for caution when considering a transit.'
  • Then we come to this Lloyd story. This
  • is from over from Dave Oler again.
  • Underwriters declined war coverage for
  • final voyage of eternity sea. The
  • additional premiums for the Red Sea
  • transits now hitting 1% of whole price.
  • And so what we're seeing is that
  • increase in it. Now, understand bulk

  • 12:00
  • carriers are on the low-end scale. So,
  • if you have a ship like Magic Sea, is
  • $40 million. 1% of that is $400,000.
  • And $400,000
  • to to pay to sail through this region
  • may be cheaper than the additional fuel
  • it's going to take for you to go all the
  • way around Africa and maybe go up into
  • the Mediterranean. Now, you have to add
  • a Suez Canal passage on there. So
  • companies are always kind of weighing
  • those two issues. Plus there's the time
  • issue. The way bulk carriers operate, as
  • I said before, they're kind of the Ubers
  • of shipping. They go to wherever their
  • cargo is. And if you are busy hauling
  • around Africa, it's going to take you
  • out of bidding for further uh cargos.
  • And so you may be willing to risk a
  • voyage through the region and get it.
  • However, the fact that Eternity Seas's
  • coverage is been denied by travelers,
  • that is going to cause some hesitation
  • by some shippers to want to go through
  • this region. We also see this story from

  • Threat to Merchant Mariners
  • 13:00
  • Lloyds. This is from Bridget Dykum.
  • Philippine orders crew to avoid
  • high-risk areas as more recovery for
  • eternity seas. Philippine issues orders
  • to agencies to reroute or divert vessels
  • manned by Filipino crew. Eight members
  • of the crew and two security members
  • have been safely recovered from Eternity
  • Sea. Five remain missing and six are
  • thought to be taken by Houthi forces.
  • Now, of the 25 crew members on Eternity
  • Sea, the majority of them are Filipino.
  • Filipinos make up the largest single
  • block of merchant mariners out there in
  • the world. And so, the Philippines
  • initially had said this uh they had gone
  • back on it. They were talking about
  • pulling all their mariners from sailing
  • this region. The uh international trade
  • federation workers, the ITF has been
  • sitting there saying about sailing
  • vessels into the straits of Hormuz.
  • They've been arguing about sailing into
  • this region. If they can convince
  • mariners to bulk sailing through this
  • region, then the Houthies are going to
  • win success by diverting further ships
  • out of this region. All right, let's

  • Where was the Navy?
  • 14:03
  • talk about then we talked about the
  • financial costs, we talked about the
  • merchant mariners. Where was the navies
  • in this? So we know that there had been
  • alerts put out. The UK MTO, the United
  • Kingdom's maritime trade operations put
  • out the warnings and the threats in the
  • area. The European Union Operation
  • Speeds has been present in the area
  • since the early part of 2024. The
  • problem with Operation Speeds is it's
  • been underresourced. Typically anywhere
  • from four to six vessels are a component
  • of operation as speeds but the quality
  • of the vessels has been mixed and in
  • truth what the European Union has
  • largely been doing has been escorting
  • high value ships through the region.
  • This was posted on the European Union's
  • Operation of Speeds Twitter page just a
  • few days before the attack July 5th.
  • This is showing the Italian destroyer
  • Andrea Doria providing close-in
  • protection for two CMA CGM. These are

  • 15:02
  • the French national line container ships
  • sailing through. Now, container ships
  • are very high value. Uh container ships
  • can reach values of over half a billion
  • to a billion dollars in terms of ship
  • and cargo. And when you start talking
  • about a billion dollar ship with a 1%
  • war risk insurance on it, you're talking
  • about $10 million. And so one of the
  • things that the European Union has been
  • doing and they haven't been very loud
  • and vocal about this is providing
  • protection for these ships going
  • through. But the question is are they
  • underwriting the war risk insurance for
  • those vessels or are those ships getting
  • a much lower war risk insurance because
  • they have the protection of operation of
  • speeds. uh the European Union,
  • particularly the Italian Navy, the
  • French Navy, the Marine National have
  • been protecting ships of their own
  • nationality, not flag, but nationality
  • going through. At the same time, there's
  • very little presence of the US Navy,

  • 16:01
  • although the Central Command Twitter
  • page posted this, a meeting of the USS
  • Nimttz and the USS Carl Vincent battle
  • group out in the Gulf of Aiden. Now, we
  • had a carrier strike group presence in
  • and around the Red Sea for a long period
  • of time. The last carrier to leave the
  • area was the Truman at the sunset of
  • Operation Ruff Rider. Uh Vincent has
  • been off the coast providing air cover
  • and protection, but the Vincent was out
  • with the Nimtts for this photo op. And
  • unfortunately, what we see is there was
  • obviously no protection in and around
  • the Southern Red Sea when the attacks

  • What does Houthi Unrestricted Warfare mean for Shipping?
  • 16:37
  • took place. Now, for the Houthis, this
  • is a success. I mean, they have been
  • able to sink two ships. They have killed
  • merchant mariners on board. This, more
  • than anything else, is going to
  • potentially shift cargo and ships out of
  • this region. Some people were talking
  • about a return back into the Red Sea. I
  • don't foresee that happening anytime
  • soon. I think we're pretty clear that
  • the diversion around Africa is going to

  • 17:01
  • be the norm for the rest of this year
  • going further. I have a feeling that
  • Iran is the impetus behind these
  • attacks. They're pushing the Houthi to
  • make these style of attacks on shipping
  • out there because it increases their
  • ability to get at the West, to get at
  • Israel, to get at the European Union, to
  • get at Japan, Korea, and all the other
  • nations for their participation or
  • support of the strikes against Iran by
  • the Israelis and the United States. So,
  • we're in a very unique period of time.
  • The Houthies have basically declared
  • unrestricted warfare against commercial
  • shipping. You got to go back to World
  • War I to find a similar version of this
  • when the Kaiser used submarines to
  • execute not one but two different
  • versions of unrestricted submarine
  • warfare. The first led to the sinking of
  • the Lucatania and eventually the Germans
  • backed off of unrestricted submarine
  • warfare. They went to what they call the

  • 18:00
  • cruiser rules where they stopped
  • vessels, boarded them, and then sank
  • them when allowing the crew to escape.
  • Kind of what we saw with the magic seas,
  • but unrestricted submarine warfare meant
  • you shoot first and ask questions later.
  • That appears to be where we're at now.
  • Unrestricted warfare is the case for the
  • eternity sea. And if this is the case,
  • how does the world respond? Now, this is
  • a Liberian flagged Greek owned vessel.
  • Does that mean the Liberian and Greek
  • Navy are coming to the aid of these
  • ships? Probably not. Uh I can tell you
  • the Liberian Navy isn't going to do it.
  • Uh because there is no Liberian Navy.
  • The Greeks were part of Operation
  • Speeds. They have deployed vessels down
  • there. Are we going to see more down
  • there? I don't know. Uh this really
  • creates a new problem for the world
  • because we move shipping and cargo
  • differently than we did prior to World
  • War II. end of World War II, you
  • vanquish, you know, enemy navies from
  • the world's oceans. The Marine, the
  • Imperial Japanese Navy, the Italian Navy

  • 19:02
  • all disappear. And what you get from
  • 1945 up until 2025 has been a period
  • where the world's oceans are wide open.
  • I mean, in the entire history of the
  • Cold War, the only true maritime
  • conflict you had, which was a maritime
  • conflict, was the Faullands down in the
  • South Atlantic. That was it. And that
  • didn't really impede any cargo or
  • traffic because it was down in the
  • bottom of the South Atlantic. There's
  • not a lot going on down there except
  • for, you know, penguin trade. Uh there
  • were other naval conflicts, but a lot of
  • those conflicts were part of land
  • campaigns. The India Pakistan camp uh
  • campaign, the Arab-Israeli ones, Iran,
  • Iraq in the tanker war, all of that was
  • kind of part of a ground war. It didn't
  • really spread out onto the world's
  • oceans. This is much different. We're
  • seeing this and not just in the Red Sea.
  • We're seeing it in the Straits of
  • Hormuz. We're seeing it in the Black
  • Sea. We're seeing it in the Baltic Sea.
  • We're seeing it over in the South China
  • Sea. Uh this is expanding out and really

  • 20:00
  • raises the question is what is the role
  • of navies? What do you want a navy to
  • do? Uh I'm a big proponent of the US
  • Navy. I talk about the US Navy all the
  • time. I think the US Navy has lost its
  • history in many ways. If you talk to uh
  • naval historians and members of the US
  • Navy today, they will tell you the
  • mission of the US Navy is to go fight
  • the big decisive battle. You know, quote
  • my hand, we're going to go out there and
  • fight the big decisive battle. I think
  • you need to go back and look at the
  • early history of the US Navy to
  • understand what the US Navy is about.
  • I'll give you two examples here. One was
  • a book written by my thesis adviser at
  • East Carolina University uh called
  • Stoddard's War. Mike Palmer wrote
  • literally the only book out there on the
  • quasi war between the United States and
  • France at the end of the 18th century
  • going into the 19th century. And then a
  • recent book just came out by Abigail
  • Mullins, Abby Mullins over at the US
  • Naval Academy to fix a naval character,
  • the United States in the first Barbary
  • War. Unlike typical operational

  • 21:01
  • histories of the Barbarie War that wants
  • to talk about battles, Abby and Mike
  • Palmer look at these conflicts in the
  • context of commerce and economics, which
  • I think is really important. If you look
  • at the quasi war, we stood up an entire
  • navy. The Navy took about a third of the
  • entire national budget. But the amount
  • of money the Navy made for the country
  • by increasing trade, by protecting
  • trade, offset the cost of that navy
  • multiplefold. And in many ways, that's
  • what we're seeing. Now, you may ask,
  • what do I care about the Houthi
  • attacking ships? I'm an American. What
  • do I care? Well, in truth, some cargo
  • from Asia goes through this region, goes
  • to Europe, gets transloaded and shipped
  • over. So, it does impact you. But more
  • importantly, what this does is it raises
  • the entire cost around the world to move
  • goods. It's costs more money. You're
  • burning more fuel. You're using ships on
  • longer ton miles, longer voyages, which
  • means you need more ships and needs more

  • 22:00
  • crew. Uh it means you need more of
  • anything. And more importantly, if you
  • can put my little red Lego dot here, you
  • can put my little red Lego dot on a few
  • other choke points around the world and
  • begin strangling global trade. That is
  • the issue that we see transpiring right
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