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IRAN BUNKER BUSTING OR NOT Times Radio: Trump's plan collapses as US B-2 bombers face critical flaw \| Robert Fox PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXu6KiS1pYk
Trump's plan collapses as US B-2 bombers face critical flaw \| Robert Fox Times Radio 1.46M subscribers Jun 21, 2025 “You would need serial attacks, it’s very concerning… it’s never been used in hostility before.” US Air Force B-2 stealth bombers have reportedly been stationed on Diego Garcia but may not even work as Trump plans to attack Iran, says Robert Fox. Join this channel to get access to perks - / @listentotimesradio 📻 Listen to Times Radio - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio 🗞 Subscribe to The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/subscribe/... 📲 Get the free Times Radio app https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/how-... Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess Transcript 0:00 nobody knows whether this bomb would really work it's an enormous pile of rock and you need need two of those right i was speaking to to a defense expert the educated the educated opinion I'm afraid is that you would need serial attacks with this weapon to guarantee any form of success it's extremely concerning it's a very open question never been used in hostility before now let's get a bit more detail this could be potentially a huge story today um uh the UK defense journal is reporting that two US Air Force B2 stealth bombers have reportedly departed from the Whiteitman Air Force base in Missouri in the states and appear to be heading towards Diego Garcia that is the strategic US military base uh in the Indian Ocean robert Fox is defense editor for the Evening Standard uh Robert let's just talk about why this is significant when it comes to discussing US involvement in this Israel Iran war well it's getting the the absolutely key bomber and key bit of 1:00 ordinance ready to go at ours notice should uh Donald Trump say yes go we're going to join in because we know how America will join in supporting Israel's attack on Iran because it's only the US Air Force and this particular bomber can deploy the bunker buster the mop the massive ordinance penetrator which weighs over 15 tons uh which may be may be capable of penetrating the four-door uh underground um mountain uh laboratory for or engineering factory producing the enriched uranium for the bomb that's where the bomb they think now really would be produced I if when Iran finally if it does do so decides to go nuclear let's just sense check this is it at all possible that Donald Trump could have delivered this instruction via the head of his army uh uh to scare Iran into 2:00 coming back to the table to engage in more serious discussions or do you not issue this sort of instruction unless you seriously intend to go with some sort of operation i think it's a bit of both i think it's it's a it's it is uh an element of bluff there has to be an element of bluff about it and um in view of the discussions with the foreign minister Agatia yesterday and the European foreign minister to the foreign minister of Iran who said no talks unless Israel stops uh that it is to put more pressure on Thran and put uh pressure on particularly uh Ali Ham the supreme leader wherever he is and he certainly isn't in Thran at the moment yes it is ratcheting up but this is a oneshot wonder what it reveals though is that the bombs are probably already in Diego Garcia which raises a whole lot of questions for the UK interesting uh the UK it's thought would have to give what a sort of cursory permission to the to 3:01 the United States there are big questions about the legality of this war and the UK getting involved but as I understand it and please enlighten us um it is it it would be automatically granted essentially by the UK to the US to let them let these uh uh bombers launch from Diego Garcia quite apart from recent Labor Labor Party history I'm afraid Kate because we've already had what comes around goes around the arguments we had about Tony Blair's commitment of British forces alongside American in Iraq 2003 where there was a resignation uh from from the foreign office lawyer about this and the attorney general the current attorney general Richard Hamer best best buddy of the prime minister they were brothers in arms in the law in human rights law is also raising the same questions about roe about uh that's rules of engagement about uh laws of war u the conduct of 4:00 war is this a war of aggression unwarranted war of aggression in which uh Britain could be seen as a colluser or just an ally and very briefly uh Robert sorry to rush you but coming towards the end of the program now um how long would it take bombers carrying those big bunker buster mops how long would it take them to get from Diego Garcia to the point over that four-door facility in Iran to launch a strike how much time about two and a half three three hours but I'd just like to throw in one thing Kate nobody knows whether this bomb would really work it's an enormous pile of rock and you need need two of those right i was speaking to to a defense expert you need two the educated the educated opinion I'm afraid is that you would need serial attacks with this weapon to guarantee any form of success it's extremely concerning it's a very open question never been used in hostility before robert Fox thank you so much defense editor for the Evening Standard lots to think about and of course we'll be across that story all day on Have you ever had women could a 5:00 woman make your team fell up on that no we're having a meeting in an hour have a meeting downstairs in one hour yeah Mr president the standpoint of winning a war is doing pretty well yeah um think would happen plan for everything but we'll see what happens got a ways to go they should have Look they should have made the deal i had a great deal for them they should have made that deal 60 days we talked about it and in the end they decided not to do it and now they wish they did it and they want to meet but it's you know it's a little late to meet but they want to meet and they want to come to the White House they'll even come to the White House so we'll see i may I may do that now you seem very open to the idea of potentially taking US action obviously you're not going to tell us that can you walk us through what contributed to that change how you got to to where you are in making your decision now well I think it started the first night i mean you know that first night was devastating and uh it really knocked the one side off as you know it was a devastating 6:00 devastating evening day and pretty much proceeded that way i I have a meeting in the war room in a little while situation room as some people call it so we're going to meet we're going to see it's We're in the midst of it's a terrible thing i hate to see it i hate to see all that death so much death and destruction but death primarily is what I hate to see does that mean you haven't made a decision yet on what to do i have I have ideas as to what to do but I haven't made a final i like to make the final decision one second before it's due you know because things change i mean especially with war things change with war it can go from one extreme to the other war to Josh he's a very good friend of mine uh but with that being said uh I would say right now Israel from the standpoint of winning a war is doing pretty well yeah please turning point USA well they're very good turning point Charlie mr president in your meeting today with the uh chief of staff 7:01 of the Pakistani Army did you talk about Iran did that come up is there anything you can share from that meeting well they know Iran very well better than most and uh they're not happy about anything it's not that they're bad with Israel they know them both actually but they probably maybe they know Iran better but uh they see what's going on and they he agreed with me better but uh they see what's going on yeah well I don't want to get involved either but I've been saying for 20 years maybe longer that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon i've been saying it for a long time and I think they were a few weeks away from having one and they had to sign a document i think they wish they signed it now it was a fair deal and now it's a harder thing to sign you know it's a lot of water over the dam but uh you know it's very I I say it very simply Iran can't have a nuclear weapon too much 8:00 devastation and they'd use it you know I believe they'd use it others won't use it but I believe they'd use it so that's it it's very simple as far as I'm concerned they can't have a nuclear weapon so happy there was a deal that two smart people for the Iran the possibility of an Iran deal is the destruction or the dismantling of the the Ford nuclear enrichment center is that a prerequisite for a deal is that a red line for you no it's just something that people talk about having we're the only ones that have the capability to do it but that doesn't mean I'm going to do it at all yeah we have the best military equipment in the world you see that with this fight we have planes that are undetectable flying around like you know nobody's nobody's able to see them stealth you guys want to be stealthy tonight you know you can be stealth you'll never lose right but these are incredible planes and weapons we have the best weapons in the world by far nobody close and we're we're uh I mean 9:00 certain countries take advantage of that israel has incredible weaponry so We'll see what happens i have not I have not I've been asked about it by everybody but I haven't made a decision mr president you I'm going have to think about that one uh you talked earlier today about having daily conversations uh with Prime Minister how how how have those conversations weighed on you in terms of uh getting more involved you've been lobbying for the US to get more involved has that has that had an impact in kind of your evolution sir look we talk and I I'd like to see everything uh done i would have preferred having just an agreement a strong agreement you know verifiable agreement uh but uh it was such a shame they were so close you know Iran was very close to signing what would have been a very good agreement for them and maybe that could still happen I guess you know they do want to come and see us they want to see me in the White House 10:00 that's a big statement but uh it's very late is it enough of a statement to hold off getting we're going to see what happens look we're going to see what happens ending it as soon as you can would be uh would be good have you closed the door on meeting with them no okay so it's still open to them coming here yeah i mean they asked if they could come we'll see if that happens it's not that easy for them to come they can't get out you know they're in Iran and in one case they wanted to come so badly but he can't get out because his bombs dropping all over the place thank you very much everybody thank you thank you

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