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TRUMP ALL ABOUT HIMSELF ... ALWAYS Times Radio: Trump's war on Harvard ignited after Barron Trump 'didn't get in' PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDVkP6VwVwU Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess I went to Cambridge University in the UK in 1978 when I was 18 years old. I was funded in large part by a 'State Scholarship' that made it affordable for my parents who were school teachers in the British 'middle class'.I learned a lot when I was young, and have continued with the learning process all my life! I have a great respect for knowledge. Sadly ... a lot of people with impressive ignorance have a lot of power and influence ... much more in the modern world that makes any sense. Trump becoming President of the United States not once but twice is difficult to understand ... at any rate, on any rational grounds! I am happy that Harvard has not caved to Trump's bullying tactics ... but this is likely only the beginning of what could get very nasty!
Trump's war on Harvard ignited after Barron Trump 'didn't get in' Times Radio May 24, 2025 1.44M subscribers ... 1,200,864 views ... 27K likes 'I think there is a very personal element to this as well.' Trump's 'attack' on Harvard is fuelled by a personal vendetta after his son Barron was rejected, says former president of the harvard club in the uk Brooks Newmark. Join this channel to get access to perks - / @listentotimesradio 📻 Listen to Times Radio - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio 🗞 Subscribe to The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/subscribe/... 📲 Get the free Times Radio app https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/how-... Transcript 0:00 with all these decisions with Donald Trump you have to get under the skin of why it is that he's attacking a particular country or institution and so on and I think there's a very personal element to this as well now a judge in the US has temporarily blocked the Trump administration's ban on Harvard's enrollment of international students harvard says the decision was a blatant violation of the law and an attack on free speech while Trump says the university is guilty of misconduct and other offenses we can speak now to Brooks Newark who is the former president of the Harvard Alumni Association and Conservative Cabinet Minister morning to you hi morning what what have you made of this intervention by the courts in the US um well it doesn't surprise me um because everything Donald Trump is doing is effectively against the law um and this is the problem with with Donald Trump is that he sort of shoots first and then asks questions later so I think um this is you know the start of a of a pattern 1:00 of behavior with Trump where he'll try and do things bully people into doing things but ultimately um you know hopefully the law will prevail i think his his main argument is um Harvard's a private institution but it receives federal funding uh because it receives federal funding there has to be some form of government oversight and I think this is what he's sort of uh holding on to harvard on the other hand is arguing more of a first amendment argument which is freedom of speech freedom of assembly uh and so on and uh I suspect the constitution ultimately will prevail in this argument and to be honest though you know I think um you know a lot of it you know is frustrating um you know for both sides of the argument and and you know I'm I'm not someone who and as I said as a Harvard alum I argued against the whole DEI agenda i thought it went way 2:01 overboard at Harvard there are a lot of things to be honest that um there are legitimate criticisms against Harvard but the way Donald Trump is going about it I'm afraid he'll be on a losing wicket here i mean you talk about that federal funding which the White House has frozen it's 2.2 billion so 1.7 billion pounds and this of course this this move by Trump um is affecting international students there's around 6,000 international students who are enrolled at Harvard and to give you an idea just a year's tuition is over £60,000 by the time you chuck everything else in like food and insurance and housing and anything else it could be £90,000 a year for students to be there this is going to be hugely disruptive and ultimately it's going to really annoy them their customers ultimately these international students aren't they well the the the thing I I do feel sorry most for the students because imagine that you've you've had a series of universities you've had an opportunity to go to you've turned down all the other universities you've chosen Harvard 3:00 or Harvard's chosen you and you've chosen Harvard and suddenly you're told well actually uh you know you're not going to be permitted uh to go there so the people I feel sorryest for are the students who made the decision uh in the past let's say 6 months to go to Harvard um have turned down other universities and the question is what happens to them so there for me would be my priority not not necessarily Harvard which is a $50 billion institution um you know yes it will have a financial impact um on Harvard but I think the broader messaging is that if you're an international student going to the United States beware you know this could happen to any institution that doesn't bend to the will of Donald Trump he is becoming increasingly autocratic and demanding he wants to vet uh not only what Harvard is doing but really what the uh uh uh professors are lecturing he 4:00 wants to see the content um and what's going to happen too I suspect is that if you're an international professor you're someone from overseas that is teaching at a US university you could be impacted because uh Donald Trump in his wisdom could say 'I don't like what this professor is teaching.' What about this person banned yeah Brooks what about what I've heard students say interviewed who go to Harvard who say there is a problem with anti-semitism on campus and Harvard should have done more to protect these students and actually if Harvard had have done that maybe Donald Trump's attention wouldn't have been drawn to it um no I think I think that's a bit of a red herring actually i I'm I'm a I'm Jewish um you know I was part of Hell at Harvard um and I I've had huge problems with this so I I I was one of you know Bill Aman who you may have heard of has been harshly critical of Harvard on this i've been harshly critical of the university uh on it certainly when I was 5:02 there 40 years ago you know anti-semitism was not an issue at all even though you know obviously there were a lot of issues between Israel and Palestine back in the 70s and 80s when I was there um so but it has gotten very bad it's gotten very bad on all campuses um in US universities uh so it's not just Harvard i think I I think uh in many I you know I try not to personalize this but everything with Donald Trump is personal okay um whether it's there was the attack on Panama because his his his hotel there was was um blocked uh and stopped and closed down for for money laundering um and and I think you know with Donald Trump in Harvard I I well I don't want to personalize it in this way he tried to get Baron uh into uh Harvard uses his influence to get in and Harvard 6:00 basically said we don't care whatever money you have you know you know unfortunately your son isn't qualified to get in so I think there's also a very personal element to this so with all these decisions with Donald Trump you have to get under the skin of why it is that he's attacking a particular country or institution and so on and I think there's a very personal element to this as well that I don't think people have really sort of gone under the surface of here brooks Newart thank you for joining us this morning grateful to you for your time Chi Onura is Labour MP and chair of the science innovation and technology committee h good morning Chi good morning very good to speak to you so then you think that we should be doing more to bring us scientists here what would be the attraction what can we offer them well we have a fantastic uh science base i mean we are one of the world's leading science scientific nations and it's so important for our our economy our competitiveness on the global stage so 7:01 in fact you really we're second to the US and you might argue China in terms of the the quality of our science base so we can attract we can offer them a great environment to do research in obviously we've got the same language we have a stable uh government which really believes uh in the importance of science and innovation uh particularly for our industrial strategy to get growth to get prosperity all around the country including uh here uh in uh Newcastle where we've also got uh you know two fantastic universities we've got univers fantastic research establishments across the country so we would be offering them 7:40 the the chance to to continue their research and some of these scientists you know at NASA or the National Institute for Health and Research they are doing really important work uh so we can offer them the opportunity to continue that work in an environment which values science and the importance both you know to our economy our our well-being our health we saw that during 8:00 co uh and also to um you know to our to our culture we we value science and we know the difference that it can make uh and we're not uh we're not trying to uh to to to close down uh science can we afford them i think is the question though tom Whipple Time Science Editor makes this case here that the US is still the best in the world for science not least its salaries do we have the money to offer both by way of salaries but also then in research grants as well to to attract to actually make an impact on these scientists who are leaving a sort of basketcase science context in the US i'd say two things to that uh firstly you know the UK spends and this has been uh continued under the Labor government increased under the Labor government 20 billion pounds a year of public money on science uh there's also hu significant investment from great organ um companies such as Astroenica uh Rolls-Royce etc um 9:00 but also most scientists do not go into science for the salaries um most scientists go into science because they want to expand human knowledge they want to uh you know push back the boundaries of understanding or they want to find a cure for to c for cancer or for the covid vaccine for example um so I I think that we can we I think what motivates most most scientists and we're not going to attract all the scientists who are uh um undermined by uh the current uh President Trump's current approach just to say I was out in the in the US a few weeks ago and there's real you know people of their life's work uh being under being undermined or attacked or or the threat of redundancies or actual redundancies there's a real kind there's a real anxiety there so we're not saying to attract all the scientists there but there are significant number of really excellent scientists and we know that there's a um there's a scheme from Australia the European Union is 10:00 offering ease of ease of access so we need to be competitive and that's why I I wrote to the science m minister uh Lord Valance uh asking him uh you know to set out what we would we could do what we could do to offer these fantastic uh scientists somewhere to do their science

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