Jeffrey Sachs WARNS: US Political System Has 'COLLAPSED' Under Trump
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Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs delivered a scathing assessment of the current U.S. administration during a recent address to youth development advocates, characterizing American leadership as 'the worst it's ever been' and describing the political system as having 'collapsed' into 'one person rule.' Speaking to what appears to be a UN Sustainable Development Network gathering, Sachs outlined a series of recent U.S. withdrawals from international cooperation frameworks, including trade systems, climate agreements, and the World Health Organization, calling the policy trajectory 'dumber than this, really' while arguing that American isolation is inadvertently facilitating improved relations between traditional adversaries including China-India and regional East Asian powers. #tnworld #timesnowworld #worldnews #internationalnews #timesnews #newsworld
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- 0:00
- let me spend just a few minutes talking
- about the situation in the world right
- now because the last couple of days have
- been dramatic Now there is no guarantee
- that we avoid catastrophe because the
- world's not well led uh and uh the world
- is in a very unstable
- uh situation because of all the things
- that we've been discussing uh of course
- the climate crisis all of the upheavalss
- in the world economy even aside from the
- interventions of uh uh
- leadersh than than I So this is
- something um quite dramatic But another
- thing that's very dramatic is the
- geopolitical changes that are underway
- 1:02
- They are
- remarkable They're very dangerous but on
- the
- whole not bad Actually what's happening
- is that a familiar world led so-called
- by the United States and Europe is no
- longer led by the United States and
- Europe uh it was presumptuous to be led
- by the United States and Europe to begin
- with Uh it's actually the end of a very
- long cycle that dates back to
- 1492 and onward because it started
- with a voyage that was a little bit went
- arry and changed the world uh
- fundamentally
- Um and they say
- that how do you know that uh Christopher
- 2:01
- Columbus was an economist by the way
- uh he didn't know where he was going He
- didn't know where he was when he got
- there and it was all on a government
- grant Uh so this is part for the course
- But um the world became a Europeanled
- world with a a lot of uh cruelty and a
- lot of inequality and a lot of
- domination Um and with a lot of
- remarkable technological development uh
- that came along with it but that was
- utilized as a form of power and
- oppression as well and the United States
- dominated the world for about a half a
- century after 1945
- Now we're in a very different world and
- um the uh voices of other parts of the
- world are really important and um
- 3:02
- growing and that means that in the media
- and in the political life in the western
- world there's a lot more anxiety
- actually than there is in China for
- example or in India where it's not
- pessimistic It's not feeling that the
- world's falling apart feeling that the
- world is changing in the right direction
- actually and I would say if you look at
- opinion surveys in Africa there's a
- tremendous amount of optimism actually
- Africa is the most optimistic single
- continent uh in the world uh if you look
- at opinion surveys so the world's
- changing and it leads to a lot of
- anxiety and the anxiety is highest in
- the United States because nobody likes
- to be pushed off the perch uh but the
- Fact of the matter is um the world's
- becoming a lot more interesting diverse
- interconnected You're a very diverse
- group but not quite diverse enough There
- 4:00
- aren't are there any Chinese faces here
- no we have somebody from Hong Kong Okay
- good Hong Kong we were just there It's
- wonderful Uh and uh India
- Great Okay So between the two you're 40%
- of the world population but not not
- exactly 40% of this room So it's just to
- say we don't have to have a complete
- demographic equality but you're a very
- diverse group which is extremely
- important very important And um the
- world's even more diverse if I could put
- it that way So we need to strive for uh
- for that and
- viewed in that perspective My own view
- is I'll say a grim statement and then an
- optimistic statement If we don't blow
- things up which is possible then things
- are going to be okay uh and by that I
- 5:01
- mean the world that is taking shape will
- be more equal more open actually
- benefiting from a lot of the
- breakthroughs in
- technology The real worry I have is just
- disaster in the in the short term
- because my country is the worst lead
- that it's ever been and our political
- system has collapsed So we have
- oneperson rule which is not exactly the
- way to run a a society of 335 million
- people and 30 trillion dollars of output
- but that's what what we have for the
- moment But if we can avoid the
- catastrophes we actually not just
- rhetorically and not just optimistically
- we really have a lot of solutions in
- this world for food production for
- sustainable energy for uh better
- education and health care systems for
- all sorts of things that are completely
- 6:00
- wonderful They're not they're getting
- discovered They're getting developed
- You're pioneering many of them They're
- not getting undertaken at any at the
- scale that they need and the pace that
- they need by any means but they could be
- because there's
- no
- fundamental shortfall of resources or
- knowhow We're not running out of
- particular minerals so that we can't do
- this We're not running out of land so
- that we're in a struggle for who eats
- and who doesn't eat We're not running
- out of energy because solar
- radiation is about 5,000 times our power
- usage on the planet So if we deploy uh
- solar power which is now cheaper than
- any other kind of
- power we're not in an energy shortage as
- well We're not in a knowhow shortage but
- 7:00
- we are in a fairness shortage We're in a
- niceness shortage We're in a calmness
- shortage Uh we're in a geopolitical
- crisis And we are with a lot of
- instability from all of the upheavalss
- of climate which are going to get worse
- for the next 50 years almost no matter
- what we do Because underlying our
- physical reality is a lot of warming
- built into the system and a lot of
- shocks that will come from that That
- doesn't mean that the impacts
- necessarily get worse because things can
- get buffered We can become more
- resilient We can become adapted But the
- climate itself is going to become more
- dangerous
- shortly So this is our state of affairs
- Now what specifically happened yesterday
- was the
- US declared itself outside of the world
- trade system Two weeks ago the US
- 8:01
- declared itself outside of the climate
- challenge Uh three weeks ago the US
- declared itself out of the
- sustainability challenge Four weeks ago
- the US declared itself outside of the
- WH All
- right Honestly it doesn't get dumber
- than
- this really But the US is 4.1% of the
- world population And as I said the other
- 95% I don't see things diminishing in
- intensity of purpose but rather
- increasing and there are a lot of very
- good things that are happening even
- because of the United States strangeness
- of behavior right now For example China
- and India which have been at loggerheads
- for 60 years for a kind more than that
- for almost 80 years for a complicated
- reason that the British drew a an
- 9:02
- arbitrary borderline in the Himalayas uh
- and that has meant border dispute and
- conflict between China and India since
- India gained independence in 1947 and
- the people's republic of China was
- formed in 1949 and they're still
- fighting over a line that a guy named
- name named Mcmah drew arbitrarily in
- 1880 never having been up to the
- Himalayas where he drew the line and
- there is by the way a theorem that I
- kind of subscribe to that all problems
- in the world go back to the British Um
- so that's true in the Middle East It's
- true in the Himalayas It's true in m
- much much of the world Yes it's true all
- over Africa It is actually a very good
- rule of thumb It's not it's not quite a
- proven theorem but it's a very good rule
- of thumb Um in any event the Indian and
- Chinese foreign ministers got together
- and said 'What are we fighting about uh
- we should trade more We should invest
- 10:01
- more.' And then very positive statements
- came from Prime Minister Modi and from
- President Xi Then uh last week three
- other countries that are at loggerheads
- for no reason in the world Honestly
- China Korea and
- Japan They are divided because the
- United States says you're on our side
- and they're the enemy Uh to China and
- Japan and I mean to Korea and Japan visa
- v China The three got together because
- they see the US not such a great you
- know protector of their interests and
- they said we need to improve relations
- with each other This is very very
- good And if you think about Iran and
- Saudi Arabia for example which was
- defined by the US to be the uh you know
- the the
- the fundamental schism of Shia and Sunni
- 11:04
- and so much of US policy was playing the
- Sunnis against Shia Iran and so forth
- They made a raproma last
- year which China helped to broker in a
- very wise way The United States would
- never have done it and never even have
- thought about it But uh China was very
- helpful So
- truly I'm not so pessimistic at all I
- just see the world changing and I can
- understand the pessimism in the
- newspapers that I happen to read in the
- US because they're all geared around the
- idea of the US as number one And if you
- put that aside I like a world in which
- China's playing a much larger role and
- India is playing a much larger role and
- the African Union's playing a much
- larger role and Saudi Arabia is playing
- a much larger role To me this a great
- 12:00
- world It's it's a world of diversity
- much better food uh much better
- conversation much better places to visit
- much more fun uh in uh conferences and
- meetings and problem solving and all the
- rest Uh but if you just happen to be a
- US strategist it looks very grim and
- dangerous and so forth So I don't buy
- into the danger part I do buy into well
- I do buy into the danger part for the
- reasons I said but I don't buy into the
- inevitability
- of crisis So what I would really like
- you guys to do is to stay on
- the the networking course and the
- practical course and the
- problemolving course
- and I want us to help you to do that Uh
- so and just to be very clear you know
- 13:01
- SDSN youth is not to empower youth per
- se It's to help solve global problems of
- which you have a lot of solutions So
- that's a little bit different
- Uh we have a little more access than you
- do to some places uh being older and
- gray hair but you uh know how to fix our
- phones and computers a lot better than
- we do uh and what's going on with the
- the latest apps and how to use them and
- so forth And that's actually unique
- knowledge in our world right now Um and
- so it's really important that you're at
- the table It's true you should be at the
- table for two reasons One to protect the
- interests of your generation against uh
- uh 78-year-old US presidents that don't
- know how to think ahead So that's true
- but I don't think that's the main reason
- you should be at the table The main
- 14:01
- reason you should be at the table is you
- can help move this agenda forward in a
- very significant way
- So I had good experience when I was
- young
- I luckily thrust into places where I
- could do something at an early stage of
- my career And um thank God it worked cuz
- otherwise that would have been the end
- of it Um but in any event
- um you can do a lot but I also know um
- we can help you uh too because you learn
- you learn a lot actually along the way
- as well
- Um every day I learn something that I
- say I cannot believe I didn't know that
- for the last 50 years of trying to know
- what I know and pretty fundamental stuff
- every day which is weird to me actually
- cuz by now it should be kind of wrote
- 15:01
- but it's not wrote at all There's just
- so much to learn and I kind of walk
- around my whole life with a book in my
- hand or now with a with an ebook or on
- my phone or something reading reading
- reading every day and learning pretty
- basic things actually which is annoying
- uh really annoying because it should
- have been done already Uh but it's not
- So all of that is to say we can help you
- uh and I can help you and I can help you
- network and I can help you learn things
- So don't presume you know everything but
- don't presume that you don't know what
- you're seeing with your own eyes about
- things that can be done So that's really
- the balance that's extremely important
- Now what's going to happen after 2030
- let me say a few words about that
- because you're going to play a big role
- in that
- 16:01
- Um obviously we're not going to achieve
- what we set out to achieve in 20
- 2015 September 25th 2015 when Pope
- Francis ushered in the sustainable
- development goals at the UN The agenda
- was pretty optimistic
- beforehand At the time it was very
- stretch goals It would have required a
- lot
- of capacity and working together to make
- them happen
- Um of course we just didn't get the
- major powers to work very hard on any of
- this Uh the only one that made a major
- effort in my view was China Actually uh
- Europe said a few things at the
- beginning but Europe got caught in this
- Ukraine war which to my mind was a just
- a
- disastrous mistake because the United
- States doesn't know how to make peace
- 17:01
- and uh blew the chance after 1991 to
- help in help create a true collective
- security arrangement in Europe instead
- it expanded NATO but I don't want to go
- there just to say the US didn't try
- Europe didn't try very much China
- launched the belt and road initiative
- which is very big and positive thing uh
- Africa launched the African continental
- free trade area which is a very
- important thing uh and a very positive
- development but the world as a whole for
- the major powers didn't try very hard so
- we're reaching
- And I don't want to go into it but my
- view is the US at the University of
- North Carolina concocted something
- called SARS Cove 2 and made a pandemic
- That's another long story Uh but
- 18:00
- um we just lost a lot of time So what
- are we going to do my hope personally
- and this is something we can discuss
- longer is that we continue under the
- framework of the sustainable development
- goals And the reason is it's taken 10
- years to have governments understand a
- bit about how to make such a complicated
- multi-dimensional programming process
- because it's not simple to do this to
- plan for 17 major objectives long-term
- planning strategy and so forth Now the
- goals won't stay exactly the same but I
- don't want to redo everything to have a
- new set of goals and uh a new framework
- because honestly to my mind it would
- be it it may be constructive in bringing
- new voices in to be sure So I don't want
- to rule out deliberations which will
- 19:00
- take place but I don't think we should
- throw out everything because it just
- would be a major loss in time sync and
- in our world today the US will walk away
- from the table anyway and it just may be
- very hard to get a
- framework other framework So I'm hoping
- we continue under this broad rubric
- resetting adding no doubt something
- about artificial intelligence as SDG-18
- or repackaging uh repackaging some of
- the uh objectives and so on but to keep
- this framework to midentury because the
- next period to my mind is is to 2050 is
- to midcentury and that's in fact what we
- need to decarbonize the energy system
- It's what we need to transform
- agriculture It's what we need to create
- a workable
- digital society in which good things
- rather than bad things happen with these
- 20:02
- new technologies and so forth So that's
- what I think we will be what I am going
- to be aiming for in the next few years
- This will probably be decided more or
- less around 27 or 2027 or 2028 So there
- will be a UN process Uh the next
- secretary general will assign a
- commission probably There'll be a
- deliberations You'll be involved in
- national level and global processes and
- youth ambassadors and many ways We
- should really strategize together about
- this and you should make further
- outreach to other groups uh in order to
- do this
- One basic point is
- that what makes all of this very hard is
- thinking
- ahead on a time horizon and a complexity
- 21:00
- longer than governments know how to do
- So if you want to change the energy
- system it's not a one year or a fiveyear
- or a 10year process You really have to
- be able to think about 25 years or 30
- years and basic changes of technology
- and learn how to put that into a real
- political process and so forth And this
- is what I find most governments don't
- know how to do effectively Again China
- is better at planning in this way than
- any other government that I know among
- the major governments Europe's not bad
- at setting goals but it then doesn't
- necessarily actually create the uh the
- planning to deliver them very
- effectively I'll say also I have huge
- hopes expectations and demands of the
- African Union in the coming years
- There's a new AU commission that just
- came into office on March
- 22:02
- 15 and Africa needs to make a
- breakthrough in the next 30 years It
- can't go on like this with many
- conflicts with kids not in school with
- the systems not working with electricity
- not reaching still hundreds of millions
- of people And that's what we were
- discussing in the financing for
- development workshop that we had earlier
- this week How to make those
- breakthroughs So one thing I'm asking of
- you is helping to instill the idea of
- really basic transformation
- uh in your countries regions and since
- we're going to do it together at a at a
- world scale that yes we really can
- create a better future And it's not only
- wish fulfillment it's actually very
- practical work Very for me by the way I
- 23:05
- I caught uh who had a slide that I think
- uh Chened about the importance of
- education as being fun absolutely
- fundamental Was that you Chenade
- yeah In any event
- okay there are probably 300 million kids
- not even in school right now and we have
- to absolutely say no Are you kidding not
- another school year like this This is
- crazy And the reason they're not in
- school in some places is because of
- conflict and displacement But
- for at least 200 250 million kids is
- because the governments don't have the
- funds to hire teachers to have the
- schools and so forth And I want to have
- a
- fit together with
- 24:01
- you to the powers that be that this
- cannot go on any longer You cannot leave
- kids out of school in this world They
- cannot have a future that way This is
- the most basic point of everything that
- we're trying to do Everything every one
- of you had the fortune and you probably
- had a lot of struggles twists and turns
- good luck parents that helped friends
- that helped family that helped somehow
- that you could get an education
- But I think that's the first thing we
- really need to do is to put our foot
- down and say no more faking it
- to any to the host countries but they
- don't have the money to the IMF to the
- World Bank to China to anyone else You
- got to help make sure that all the kids
- are in school Period And then there are
- 25:02
- all the other issues that we're dealing
- with I won't uh be labor the point any
- longer because I know the time is time
- is short but let's you guys are really
- important in this process and to add to
- your importance connect with others that
- you think we need to bring into this
- process cuz this is a very powerful
- group that can really make a huge
- difference and can really by the way you
- can help the
- older ministers in the government the
- presidents and so forth Understand this
- is no joke This is real for your
- societies This really can be done You
- can tell them Professor Sax said so and
- that they got to get on with it and that
- we're here to help and we're going to
- get the financing that they need That
- was we really are going to get the
- financing that governments need But you
- 26:00
- need to help lay out the
- plans the ideas very
- operational the wonderful things that
- can be done Um and really
- inspire your countries and your friends
- and uh your the businesses you're
- dealing with and uh think very very big
- and let's uh plan to meet every few
- weeks to uh keep that
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