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COMMENTARY THE COFFEE KLATCH ... MAY 24TH 2025 With Robert Reich and Heather lofthouse Harvard, The Big Ugly Bill, and The Big Reveal PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr2azomuEFM Peter Burgess COMMENTARY This discussion is longer and deeper than the standard weekly Reich / Lofthouse Coffee Klatch ... quite thought provoking! I have 'followed' the Reich / Lofthouse Coffee Klutch for quite a long time. I have archived about three years of their Saturady discussions. Over time, I have found that the Reich / Lofthouse discussion resonates with me quite well ... but over the past several months I find that I am getting more and more 'radical' compared to the Reich / Lofthouse team. Bluntly put ... my experience over many decades suggest that the US is in a far more 'fragile' state now in 2025 than at any time since I first visited North America as a student in 1960! Quite recently, I have had the opportunity to join one of my daughters who is now 50 years old to some Google and Microsoft tech events in New York ... two in 2023 and another two in 2024. Interestingly, my understanding is that they did not happen in the same form in 2025. These 'very tech' events were remarkable in that almost all the attendees and presenters were either foreign or Americans who were foreign born ... as were almost all the atteendees. Under Trump leadership, these major American companies have been obliged to gut their welcome to competent world citizens ... something that in my view can only be seriously detrimental to the United States. Sadly ... the United States without foreign educated young people is going to rank pretty low in world technical competence. In my own history, I visited North America as a Cambridge University student for the summer of 1960 and again in the summer of 1961. The Cambridge Canada Club rented two Air France Boeing 707s to carry a two planeloads of students West to New York in late May and back East to London in early September. We had permission to 'work' in Canada, but not in the United States ... so that is what I did, as did everyone else in our group. These flights cost each of us just £75 round trip!. At that time Americans could afford to travel to Europe for vacations, but no Europeans had the money to go to the United States ... so planes were flying West empty in early summar and flying East empty in early fall! For the 30 years from 1960 to 1990, people in the United States were extremely well paid and wealthy compared to everywhere else, but that changed dramatically in the 1970s for from 2000 to the present time the American workforce has been in serious decline. From around 1989 to now (2025) US workers have been losing, owners have never become so rich in this period ... richer than at any time in bistory by a lot! At this point in history, in my view America is in a very fragile state ... and Trump will almost certainly make it a lot worse. Buckle your seat belts! Peter Burgess
Harvard, The Big Ugly Bill, and The Big Reveal \| The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich Robert Reich May 24th 2025 1.22M subscribers The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich The 'big beautiful bill' is a bunch of BS. On today's Coffee Klatch, Heather and I discuss what the new GOP budget reveals about GOP priorities — and the massive Trump power-grab hidden in it. The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich Transcript 0:01 and it is the Saturday coffee clutch with Heather Loft House and yours truly Robert Rush And Heather this has been a heavy week I mean every week has been a heavy week but this one has been particularly heavy What are we going to talk about what What have you chosen at our topic i've chosen Well the broad one is the Trump regime says up yours to higher education and to the rest of the world Well it's been saying it to the rest of the world and higher education and to everything But this week was particularly starting on so on Thursday we had Christy Gnome send a letter to Harvard that basically said you're no longer allowed to enroll any foreign students but then yesterday there was a temporary restraining order saying maybe that isn't allowed to proceed from a judge in Boston That's it Um this thing is is going on and on and the Trump regime is escalating its attack on Harvard and indirectly higher education I mean Harvard is the is the easy target 1:01 because it's so big and so prominent But this is every president every university and every set of trustees knows this is coming or this is already on them uh but Harvard it's particularly insidious because foreign students or international students make up more than 25% of all the students at Harvard and the tradition has been you know Harvard gets the best minds and the best professors best students in the world everybody wants to go to Harvard uh and the United States gets the benefit of all of these that's it uh and and to say to Harvard you know you can't do that anymore just like that you know overnight uh is not only stupid in terms of the the needs and values of the United States But Heather it also the hallmark of a dictatorship I mean it's this arbitrary sudden out of nowhere uh dictate I mean this is what dictators do 2:00 I know Uh I it it it shocked me It really did I bet And so it's not only a gut punch to Harvard because international students you know are a cash cow famously You know lots of money more money comes in from international students So anyone in academic administration knows that But the way we build knowledge all of these many graduate students who are working on incredible research across the sciences social sciences all over the place It's such a miss And it's such a miss for the globe and for America and for the individual research labs the students I mean I've worked in academia before and there was always efforts to cross-pollinate with other researchers cultures on purpose because there was a there was a you know bigger hole well because of it Absolutely I've been a professor for most of the time for the last 44 years and the idea that you don't want international students or you don't want international professors that you suddenly can can close down uh the 3:04 the knowledge that is a global network and a global community is uh is the worst nivism Yeah I mean it's it's both arbitrary It is a dictatorship Uh it is nivist uh and isolationist Uh it's the worst of every aspect of the Trump being in the Trump administration It's not just Christy Gnome I mean this is this is the entire administration Did you read the letter because the letter said you know because you all have created an unsafe environment Oh it's unsafe This is I mean this is I mean really this is the party of January 6th Yes This is the party of we don't need to give vaccines for measles I mean they are the party of unsafety I mean if there was any group of people how about in the big beautiful bill they snuck in stuff about silencers for guns going to make it easier to get those I mean I mean they they don't care they don't care about safety and they they don't care they're using the pretext of safety 4:02 They're using the pretext of anti-semitism Whatever pretext they can find they want to control American universities Uh and the idea I mean this is this is the authoritarian playbook Heather This is you take a look at Hungary and Victor Orban You take a look at every dictatorship that has been elected legitimately and wants to take over and end democracy This is what they do They take over the universities They decide what the universities are going to teach They take over the schools They decide what the schools are going to teach uh they take over all the intermediary institutions of society the law firms the museums the uh everything that you can think of The press the press the media Absolutely And this is what this administration is doing because Republicans in Congress are basically are basically zombies I mean they will let them administration do whatever it wants right they're they're afraid of being primar They are are rubber stamps They might as well not even be there Why do they even collect 5:04 their checks they're Why do they even go to into their offices well so the big beautiful bill passed the house this week and but there was lots of video of two of the representatives were asleep It was it was all happening Reminds me of that Well the big beautiful bill So it's really should be called the big ugly disgusting bill I know because that bill that bill I mean don't get me started Well I'm going to get you started Let's go Well it is it is the largest redistribution of income and wealth from in American history from the poor and the working class to the ultra rich and the extremely rich Uh I mean if you are earning under $17,000 a year I mean you're really just barely getting by I mean you know you you're relying on you are going to actually lose $1,000 a year on average On average Can you imagine and if you are in the top.1% the richest onetenth of 1% you 6:07 are going to do better by $390,000 a year It is absolutely extraordinary and regressive I mean this is we're stealing from the poor to give to the rich We are we're stealing from the poor and the working class because a lot of these programs that are being cut back Medicaid uh Medicare uh even food stamps uh and nutrition assistance and so on the working class also depends on huge cuts I know I mean these aren't huge cuts that people depend on All to give uh you know Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and that crowd and and Mark Zuckerberg and the people who were there at the inauguration all to give then hundreds of thousands of dollars more per year as their wealth goes up I know and they you know this this is if 7:00 Americans understood this and I think the the problem is that uh Trump lies so much about it and he's just an a consmate liar every time he talks about it Uh and every other Republican lies about it and Fox News lies about it and and all the right-wing media lie about it So how does the average American know that that average American is being shafted for the sake of this huge siphoning off of money to the very top there's lying about it but then there's all the fog and distraction happening at the same time Makes it even harder to get through There's a poison pill in this so-called big beautiful ugly disgusting bill And that poison pill would remove the ability of the federal courts This is scary Well I haven't even said it yet I read it in your substance It's getting more scary I read it in your substance Well it removes the ability of the federal courts to hold the administration in contempt of court for failing to follow a court order Now what we have right now is we've got all 8:04 of these district courts all over America that have said to the administration 'No you can't do that And we're putting a temporary restraining order We're putting an injunction You can't do that.' Even the Supreme Court has said 'You've got to bring back you've got to facilitate bringing back Orega Garcia because he was erroneously he he's a he's a legal American He he was here legally You can't send him off We know you knew it was a mistake and you know you even admitted it was a mistake So you've got to bring him back.' So the one recourse we have is okay you have not brought him back yet There's a line in the sand Now you would be held in contempt And it starts with the lawyers and it starts well that's right and the district courts that's the that's the trial court level of the federal system they would and they're almost there they were they've already threatened to hold those lawyers those government lawyers in contempt of court and if you are issued a writ of contempt 9:03 citation uh and it's enforced against you that means you can be fined you can go to prison I mean this is this is it's very rarely used but you this is the ultimate weapon that the courts have And this bill embedded in this bill is a provision that takes away contempt is irrelevant It basically says it says yeah we're holding you the judges in contempt Uh we have contempt for all of the judiciary You no longer have this tool It's so scary So it's in there now It's in there now But the next phase is we go to the Senate with the bill right the Senate next week Yeah the Senate next week will get this bill We assume it'll go through in some slightly adjusted form Well the Senate has a chance to adjust it to to do whatever it wants I mean this this we have but it might not might just um the I think the 10:01 hope I have Heather is you've got a number they can afford to lose the Republicans can afford to lose only three at most senators or they don't get the votes they need This is even with JD Vance Right Exactly as vice president holding the the the vote and if there is a tie and my hope is that you have at least three Republican senators who have some integrity or are afraid I mean there there about 14 is it 15 yeah it's it's 14 who are up for reelection in 2026 Uh and this is Memorial Day weekend right now This is your opportunity folks If you're in any of these states and you follow find out where they are this weekend and tell them you're not going to vote for them for re-election in 2026 unless they vote against this big awful big disgusting bill with the biggest redistribution That was wild to hear you say that this is the biggest biggest 11:03 redistribution of income and wealth in American history But it is redistributing upward It's not redistributing a single bill It's redistributing upward in a single bill This is the distillation of what the Trump regime actually stands for It is to make the rich richer and to essentially shaft everybody else That's what they're doing And what does it mean for the debt because we've talked about this a little bit but it floores me I watched one of our old videos that was called the big switcheroo where you really talk about how the rich used to pay a fair share in their taxes and that would go into the system but now they're paying less The debt is getting bigger They invest in bonds and we are reimbursing them We are paying them back the interest So the wealthy are getting wealthier and wealthier and wealthier and they're getting wealthier in in in a variety of ways and the coverage of this has been horrible and or non-existent 12:00 even yeah no in fact nobody's talking about this and so let's go let's go it's important um because in the 19 go back uh to the 1950s 1960s even under the Dwight Eisenhower administration now Dwight Eisenhower I'm old enough to remember Republican president he a general he had been a general beforehand Uh he was kind of a you know he was not anybody's image of a radical He was he was a conservative mainstream conservative Republican Uh under Dwight Eisenhower the top marginal tax rate that the richest of the rich paid in the United States was close to 92% Could you imagine now even with all deductions and credits it they were still paying a lot They were paying way more than half of their income that were talking about the their top income Then you had Ronald Reagan come in bring the top rate way way down Then you had George W Bush Yeah Bring the rate way down And then you had 13:01 Trump won So right now the richest of the rich are paying at a lower rate than many average Americans Yeah But who is financing and how are they financing the government they used to finance the government the rich through their tax payments Now they're financing the government through their lending money to the federal government That's where the bonds the treasury bonds come in And as we go deeper into debt the rest of us pay more interest to the very rich who hold the debt There's a mythology that most of the debt is being held by foreigners No 70% is being held by wealthy Americans And how does the average person face this i mean it's in interest rates It's in Well I mean it's basically in our payments our tax payments a bigger and bigger chunk of our tax payments go to interest on the federal debt And as bond holders get more nervous about whether they're ever going to be paid back because the federal debt keeps growing uh they 14:06 demand more and more interest on that debt And you can see right now I mean this is what's happening uh bond prices are going down interest are going up and who's raking it in again the extremely wealthy people who hold these bonds who are buying the bonds Uh and we are paying So if you're an average American you are paying more in taxes because of this big awful terrible bill If you're an average American you are losing your Medicaid maybe your Medicare maybe a lot of other things because of this big awful bill And if you're an average American you are also going to be paying more in interest payments in your taxes to the very wealthy and the higher interest payments and those higher interest rates are going to be spread to all sorts of things you might want Mortgage payments and and and car payments they're all going to go up as 15:03 long-term interest rates go up You see it's a it's a threer in terms of in terms of actually screwing the average working person all at the same time that the minimum wage has not kept up with productivity Right so the incomes incomes of the typical working person that used to keep up with productivity gains they have been stagnant adjusted for inflation since certainly since Reagan This is a disaster It's a disaster But they don't know about it Most people don't know about it Uh and the Democrats aren't explaining it Nobody is hearing about it The Republicans certainly don't want it to be known Uh Fox News is certainly not making a big feature about it No 60 Minutes should have a feature on it But you know what happened to 60 Minutes uh you know the president of CB of of CBS News resigned Sher Redstone wants to sell a big chunk of her Paramount stock and Paramount owns CBS which runs 60 16:04 Minutes And so you think 60 Minutes I mean this is this is enough to make somebody scream It is tell me when you're going to do it So it is so utterly can you imagine that this America our America America is in this trouble and in this close to a dictatorship here this is a really a very important issue because we've been on this road this isn't just Trump we've been on this road for a long time it's it's never been this bad obviously but in terms of big money coming in from the wealthy and big corporations influencing what Congress Congress is doing getting lower taxes on the very wealthy and on big corporations Uh the the kind of bribery that has been institutionalized uh after Citizens United the Supreme Court and the system is so bad uh and 17:00 people average working people basically with flat wages Obviously at some point they're going to be in revolt and when a so-called strong man like Trump comes along along and says well I'm your person I'm going to represent you Wink wink to the wealthy I'm really on your side but I'm going to persuade people that I'm on their side Well you this is not rocket science I know So you have been charting this and the various things that have happened along the way the way that have led to this point Tax cuts the Powell memo you know all of it But here we are and I didn't picture I mean you keep saying a silver lining There is a silver lining is that there we're going to have to have a reckoning I mean when it gets this bad there's one place to go Yeah There's a silver lining and that is that is the the it's the more it's revealed the more corruption uh the more and we haven't even got to we haven't even got to to this week's corruption story Uh but the the worse it gets the bigger the the reaction This is 18:02 my analogy of the sleeping giant America is a sleeping giant We don't the average American and the the American system most of us don't get riled up very easily Uh but we're getting to the point where people are catching on They're catching on slowly but they're catching on And the more Trump expands and doesn't know any boundaries and just keeps on going uh with this dictatorial stuff uh and also the personal corruption and also the lack of due process and the uh the complete uh and utter obliteration of uh the court system and the usurppation of Congress I think you know people are going what what i know How can he do this and then the sleeping giant is going to wake up Okay I'm waiting for it I'm going to have breakfast in bed for that sleeping giant over there Mhm Stirring Yeah I see 19:01 it stirring Um okay So this week trying to remember all that happened but we had a visit from South Africa's president came to the White House in what I would call an ambush of sorts I mean watching Trump bring these foreign dignitaries in to be so horrific to them I mean more to some than others right we had Zalinski we had the president of South Africa Sirill Ramiposa It's not lost on me that one is Jewish and one is black And Donald Trump goes after them Watching what he did this week it was so disgusting Do you want to talk about it or do I have to well you've started You're you're you're charged up Go You go Well it just so he came in and so what what Trump wanted to do was put him under his thumb and say 'Look at how bad white people have been treated in South Africa Well I mean and use videos and use this 20:02 white supremacist reality trope all of it in this man's face.' I mean it with falsehoods It's it is falsehoods I mean the these are lies These are Trump lies Uh in fact there is obviously violence in South Africa There is violence a lot of other places including the United States Uh but only 1% of the people who have been uh victims of violence are white and a very small percentage of those white people in South Africa have actually been victims of any violence This is a trumped up issue Yeah a trumped up charge Uh and Elon Musk was in the room former South African white person was in the room And look how convenient it is If if Trump wants to sell a kind of dog whistle racism What wonderful easy way to do it than to blame another nation for being racist 21:02 against white people And Satavoce uh we also have the same problem of the United States Trump says it's classic though It's classic white supremacist tactics and apartheid track tactics But so what he did was he showed this video that had a number so two white farmers South African farmers had been killed and there was a memorial of sorts that was made that I think the person who made it has been talking about this and put all of these white crosses in the ground um as a memorial And so what Trump then said is each one of these I'm paraphrasing each one of these crosses is a burial site for a dead white farmer is basically what he said And the president of South Africa was looking at him like this isn't correct And then Trump had all these pieces of paper that someone had printed out for him saying this is a story about how um white Africconers are being obliterated and this is a story And one of them was actually from the DRC the Democratic Republic of Congo not South Africa but 22:02 he just assaulted this man Well we're talking they're two different issues One is is how rude Trump can be uh if he wants to be to a foreign dignitary who is an other Uh the other issue though is this concocted story u which also kind of blends into the all of the refugees who are coming I mean he's opened the gates to refugees white refugees from South Africa What about all the people of color all over the world who are fleeing real violence well no They can't get in In fact they're being expelled many of them from the United States I mean this is dog whistle racism Beyond dog whistle I mean it is just overt racism And I feel like it's going to be I mean we knew he was racist before this Many people knew We knew it from the first people of color right it's like come on This is old news But this is so 23:05 blatant in a new way Is there a hope that people see it in a in in for what it is in a more obvious lit up way well I hope so I mean it's also this you know what he's done with DEI Now I'm going to say something that's going to get me in trouble I said it this week at the graduation ceremonies where I gave a speech um at Berkeley at the School of Education What is wrong with diversity equity and inclusion i mean these are principles that have to do with social justice What's wrong with social justice u you know suddenly we have people going around and all these companies and all these institutions are saying we're closing our DEI offices Why why exactly i mean these notions diversity equity inclusion are fundamental fundamental to this country That's what we've been 24:01 doing right and to learning and to progress and to improvement and Yes I mean what was the the the entire civil rights movement was about diversity equity and inclusion I mean what what what we're a melting pot I mean we learned that in Well third grade I think the Trumpers don't want us to be a melting pot I know They want they want us to be white and Christian and nivist nationalist and maledominated I mean that is the underlying ideology here And make no mistake I think we saw this in project 2025 Yeah it was in there Remember And we warned about it and we all looked at it But remember Project 25 is a is a book Yeah we have a three- ring binder in the other room Yes I know And I've been through it too many times Uh but I think the people First of all Trump said he never read it He said he didn't have anything to do with it Heritage Foundation who Russell Russell Voit his OM director from the first term and now 25:05 OM director in the second term he wrote and was the the primary mover behind uh behind project 2025 of it was telegraphed Yeah it was But it's but it's all there And Heather the dictatorship and the dictatorial the arbitrariness the the the the complete disregard of our constitution and our system the racism and we haven't talked about the corruption I know I corruption Well so Ramaposa was comedic when he said 'Sorry I didn't have a plane to give you.' Did you see that yes I mean I mean I think he was he was joking Oh I think Trump did not think of it as a joke He's like I wish you did have one because uh everybody is is thinking about Qatar and and that $400 million But how embarrassing I mean this is so obscene on so many levels but this foreign dignitary who is so disrespected 26:01 and lied to and made to look like a fool even though so many of us obviously saw through it Not enough of us But I mean this is happening right in front of our faces as he's and he talks about the plane as this man is taking this gift and pretending ah it's a gift to the US It's not really my gift It's kind of my gift Let's be let's be clear This gift from Qatar $400 million palace in the sky Trump just has been salivating over this for months Uh this is a gift to Trump This again the media is talking about this as a gift to the United States from Qatar It would be bad enough They're trying to spin it that way But but that that the White House is trying to spin it that way but the fact of the matter is that after assuming Trump ever does after he leaves office he gets to keep the plane It's not that it is like an Air Force One that any future president is going to be using No this is his Trump's private palace Yeah From 27:03 Qatar This is the imaluments clause of the constitution prohibits these foreign gifts The immune clause of the pro constitution prohibits what happened Thursday night I mean a a big meeting of a a a kind of dinner meeting with the president A wonderful have dinner with the president Well for a for a price Well if you were among the 220 top bidders for his own personal coin he brought in almost 400 million personally Now this goes into his this is a very important distinction I have talked you've talked we've talked for a long time about bribery in the form of the rich and big corporations giving people campaign contributions That's bad enough But what we're seeing now is something entirely different Tether this is foreigners who were giving the president of the United States money gifts big big money his own 28:04 crypto operation his own his own organization his own corporation his own uh pocket his own his own family I mean we've not seen anything anything on this scale anything like it What about Bob Mendez from New Jersey remember he had gold bullion under the bed and some cash Yes And what happened to him right I think it was 11 years in prison Gold bullion under the bed You don't put If you get gold bullion don't put it under the bed No you put on the fire on the mantle You put it on the man You celebrate it I'm worth the gold bullion and we we make a gold toilet out of it Well but really that is to me that was an example Note that's a Democrat by the way Um who you can't do that And where was the money as I understand it from the gold bullion egypt and Qatar Do you remember you don't remember Of course you remember Let's go Here we go I never remember when you ask if I remember in that tone I want to take us back Okay To the beginning of the Eisenhower administration Yes Um Richard Nixon was 29:06 going to be vice president He was going to be nominated Uh this is 1952 Okay I was six years old and I remember it very well Vividly because he came on television Richard Nixon Uh and he had been accused of taking some gifts some foreign gifts uh some gifts from from political people And he was so uh both embarrassed politically and and in every other way that concept but he almost was taken off the ticket right uh and he made this speech and he said you know I'm not rich with rich I'm very very poor and my wife is poor and and she and he held up a cloth coat you know Pat Nixon Uh she just she doesn't wear furs She doesn't have anything but she just has this cloth coat And and and here's here's my little dog I mean the only gift I've ever got that that is really a gift And my whole family loves this 30:06 little dog And the little cocker spaniel is named is named Checkers Yes That became the checker speech right that was all about gifts Now look where we are now We've gone from a little conquer spaniel checkers to a $400 million our checkered past Our checkered past was better than our current Well it's I think it's just everything gets normalized right uh you know ratcheted upward including the bank accounts I mean we're kind of at this level It is Uh but I but again I don't think what we are seeing now is ever I hope is never going to become normalized because if it's normalized then forget forget it We're not we are a dictator We're a monarch a monarchy We are not anything close to a democracy And it's grim on so 31:00 many levels But I really think the world is sad for us laughing at us I mean how can they have any respect i think uh I have friends as I'm sure you do as I'm sure many of you do who are outside in other countries and non-Americans and they are appalled They are appalled Um there was a stage when they would laugh at us They're not laughing now They are in shock as we are Uh and the thing that's very important Heather and I I tell people this in the United States uh if you are in shock and depressed about what is going on you are not alone Most people if polls are to be believed most people in the United States are shocked and sickened by what is happening But again silver lining the reaction the kickback is going to be bigger than ever because of what's happening It has to be and we already have some seeds And I do think of hope 32:06 that the courts have been had some wins We can't forget that And his polling numbers are down I mean every week I look at the polling numbers and have a little sense of relief His polls are collapsing Uh and particularly I mean he hasn't even put the the tariffs on yet I mean when when the tariffs go on and they really hit and they really hit and people are going to be paying more Uh and even you know every time Amazon or Walmart says we are going to have to be charging more because of the tariffs You know he slams them He says you know don't do that You know you were you and I talked about that on last week's collicted it but it's going to in it's inevitable I mean the tariffs are taxes uh and put together everything we've said about this bad beautiful terrible awful ugly gigantic bill No good Very bad Uh and the tariffs and 33:00 think of what is happening or going to happen to average working people if all of this thing But he is so rich He is so fine He You mean Elon no the king The king King Donald Yeah I feel like he's just patting his pockets and just Well and and remember this is important The 250th anniversary of the founding of the Continental Army Yes That was the beginning of the revolution semi-quincentennial occurred on June 14th Washington became general on June 15th 250 years ago Uh June 14th is the day that you know Trump's birthday happens to be June 14th He's planning a big military parade as dictators do And then you have uh on that day this this is a very important protest day Uh all of you you're going to be out there June 14th no kings day We don't want a king We refuse to have a 34:04 king We fought against King George III Uh and we're not going to allow King Donald to become king We have a constitution We have a constitution Let's follow it And let's But so June 14 June 14th No kings No kings Did you read that Washington Post article about mental health amongst federal workers i did That was so gut-wrenching It was It was And I I want to maybe it's this is a good place and time to say this because we have to come to a close Uh but I think that we should in these sessions Heather I think we should really thank people and express gratitude Um and the federal workers who I know federal workers you probably know people who have been working in the public sector who've been toiling for the public I mean many of these people could do much better in the private sector Uh the act 35:02 the education the typical education level in the public sector is higher than it is in the private sector They could make more money in the private sector with their education Uh they are now being treated like if you pardon the expression join me in I want to toast uh you federal workers you civil servants you people who are doing the work that is so critical to the public at federal and state levels and even local levels You are critically important What you do is noble What you do should be honored and should be recognized and you shouldn't be treated as you are being treated Nobody should be So we appreciate you Yes Including people who no longer have their jobs Including people who no longer have their jobs You know u we went from a new 36:05 deal to a new frontier Remember the Kennedy days and now we are in I hate to say it a new fascism Uh and we are going to fight this new fascism You are fighting it We are fighting it every day and we will win Thank you all Jordan Alport thank you for being our technician today Uh Michael Lahanes Calderon thank you And thank you Bob Thank you Heather We'll see you next week And by the way where do they want to put all the money all the savings all the savings from and it's not that much savings from cutting health and safety and pension protections and protections of wage and hour Where do they want to put all the savings from cutting education and 37:03 training they want to give it to a big fat tax break in the form of a big fat capital gains tax break to the people who need it least To the people whose incomes have been rising the top people who are their friends Make no mistake about what is going on right now in Washington

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