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MEDIA FIRINGS AT MSNBC The Rational National: Rachel Maddow Rips Own Network After MSNBC Fires Joy Reid PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG2tg6ZjKvA Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
Rachel Maddow Rips Own Network After MSNBC Fires Joy Reid The Rational National 650K subscribers Feb 25, 2025 MSNBC Primetime host Rachel Maddow, along with others including former MSNBC host Tiffany Cross, are ripping the network for canceling Joy Reid's show. Also discussed is what might be behind this move, including a clear pattern with these MSNBC cancelations. Visit the Merch store: http://TheRationalNational.com/merch Support the show at http://TheRationalNational.com/Join Donate Directly at http://PayPal.me/daviddoel Tip at https://streamlabs.com/therationalnat... ‘Join’ on YouTube: / @therationalnational Follow David Doel at / daviddoel Follow The Rational National at / trnshow Follow on Twitch at / therationalnational Follow on Facebook: / trnshow Sources: https://tinyurl.com/3x8wt523 ... (clip of Rachel Maddow reaction, Mediaite) https://tinyurl.com/3ns27kmm ... (Tiffany Cross Calls to Dump MSNBC on Joy Reid Zoom Call, Mediaite) https://tinyurl.com/4ss8y8zh ... 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(Bowman and Bush on Zeteo) Transcript 0:01 I am not sorry that I stood up for those those things both of our non-white hosts in prime time are losing their shows as is Katie Fang on the weekend and that feels worse than bad Prime Time MSNBC host Rachel mattow is speaking out against her own network after the network decided to cancel Joy Reed's show so in this video I'm going to play several Clips both from Rachel M oo from Joy Reed and her reaction on a different show after her show was cancelled as well as another reaction from my former MSNBC host and all the information of what is going on at MSNBC right now cuz it is just there's some changes happening and there are some interesting through lines with the changes that are being made one I'll get to later on which I think uh is very clear this one as well though is bizarre as Brandon Freedman here all the folks 1:00 who exited NBC Today seen together who boy message received interesting that no one here is White worth noting not all of them are leaving the network all of them had their shows canceled though so Jonathan Kart had his show canceled but is apparently potentially hosting a different weekend show um Alex Wagner lost her prime time show but staying on as a senior legal correspondent uh Lester Holt said he is exiting or leaving the anchor role on NBC uh he announced this it's not clear if he was pushed out because his ratings are apparently pretty good the second most watched evening newscast so it's not clear what's going on there but he's staying on NBC as uh the dine NBC host uh Joy Reed will get some more later aiman is also had a show canceled uh but is potentially hosting an evening weekend show and Katie Fang lost her show but is staying on as a legal 2:00 correspondent so all losing their positions here now The Replacements include Jens saki who is taking over for Alex Wagner's prime time slot and the weekend hosts uh Alicia Menendez Michael steel and uh Simone Sanders taking over The Joy Reed slot so and by the way I saw one one piece in mediaite that described these three as uh uh very left leaning Michael steel is the former RNC chair all right let's not let's not get crazy now uh these aren't exactly activists but I want to get to Rachel mat's comments here so these are I'm going to split this into two because her other comments I think are worth playing but I want to talk about Joy Reed first so we'll get to the other half of the comments later but here she is discussing her thoughts on the cancellation of Joy Reed Show uh 7 P.M Eastern where Joy Reeds show the readout ended tonight and joy is not taking a 3:02 different job in the network she is leaving the network altogether and that is very very very hard to take I am 51 years old I have been gainfully employed since I was 12 and I have had so many different kinds of jobs you wouldn't believe me if I told you but in all of the jobs I have had in all of the years I have been alive there is no colleague for whom I have had more affection and more respect than Joy Reed I love everything about her I have learned so much from her I have so much more to learn from her I do not want to lose her as a colleague here at MSNBC and personally I think it is a bad mistake to let her walk out the door it is not my call and I understand that but that's what I think I will tell you it is also unnerving to see that on a network where we've got two count them two non-white hosts in Prime Time both of our non-white hosts in prime time are are losing their shows as is Katie Fang 4:02 on the weekend and that feels worse than bad no matter who replaces them that feels indefensible and I do not defend it I like that mattow is in a position now at the network where she's been there long enough has enough money is well off enough where she does not care what the executives at the network are going to think when she directly calls them out for firing and cancelling Joy reach show so I'm going to get to the other half of that clip later because it has to do with the crews that work on these shows and as somebody who used to work in Broadcast News it's really good to see a onair host acknowledge the amount of work it takes behind the scenes to put on a show like that but I want to First dive a little deeper into what's going on with the Joy Reed firing because there is an interesting pattern here of people being fired not just the race pattern but the issue a specific issue 5:00 that a lot of them have been talking about so Tiffany cross who also used to be an MSNBC host uh went on this uh Zoom call and called on black people to dump MSNBC uh quote don't even hate watch so there's a larger clip here that I think is is worth sharing worth discussing she goes on to discuss how there are so few black women uh in media both in front of the camera and behind the scenes but specifically about Joy re she goes on to say this we are here to support Joy don't believe the hype about the ratings her show was doing very well you know whose ratings ain't doing well who ain't never got fired Morning Joe Joe Scarboro they went to kiss the ring and they are still being elevated the other I can say a lot about other radies but if you look at them Joy show has rated very well she's always done well there are people in positions of power who do not like her opinions and Truth um telling courage uh when she spoke about what was happening in Gaza among a lot of other other things that's it right there Gaza 6:04 I'm going to get to Joy Reed's comments as well as she also brought this up again not on her show but in another discussion so I'll get to that clip shortly here but this is one of the patterns here as crystal ball pointed out on Twitter can't say I'm surprised speaking of aan losing his show Joy Alex aan and medy Hassan before were all critical of Israel and now they've all been canceled no descent from the pro genocide consensus will be tolerated there is a consistent theme here I think at this point as far as I I'm aware only Chris Hayes uh is left in prime time as somebody who has uh done a pretty good job uh criticizing the uh government of Israel and their Mass atrocities and of course the US government support of those Mass atrocities with uh both political sport but also funding of it it's it's 7:00 one clear issue where it is so obvious what is going on yet so much of the media of of mass media of Legacy Media is unwilling to be clear about the genocide so dropsite shared the clip from Joy Reed saying Joy Reed discussed the cancellation of her MSNBC show during an interview on the win with black women podcast on Monday saying she is not sorry for her commentary on the network here's the clip my show had value and that I'm sorry that um that what I was doing had value had value and in the end I'm sorry I'm not I try not to cry on TV and I takech this is kind of like being on TV so I apologize and then and then it kind of and then it mattered I see Karen um is there and she's been texting me as well and so what I will just say is that in the end thank you you um where I land is 8:03 that the moment that I of guilt that I felt that I went hard on so many issues whether it was the black lives matter issues of a young baby uh or a mom or a dad that was killed or um when we opened up people's eyes to the fact that asian-americans were being targeted and not just black folks that or went hard for immigrants who've done nothing but come to this country like my parents did and Tred to make a life and defended them um or whether we've talked about what the president is doing that is subversive to the Constitution um that is injurious to our Liberty you know defending books that people find inconvenient you know that Nicole Hannah Jones put into our spirit that we need to understand 1619 as the real founding of this country whether it's talking about any of these issues and and yes whether it's talking about Gaza and the 9:01 fact that we as the American people have a right to object to have a right to object to little babies being bombed and and where I come down on that is I'm not sorry I am not sorry that I stood up for those those things because those things are of God um and and you know I'm a Church Girl too and those the those are the things that I was taught were of God and so I I'm not sorry just proud of my show now I'm going to read into this I don't know if this is true or not but based on how Joy Reed is talking about these topics how she's discussed many of these issues and focuses on on Gaza there that she got pushed back at the network for doing so that's how it comes off to me and it seems like she may feel that maybe that was part of the reason why her show is outright canceled now it is bizarre uh that there has in this pattern it's also obvious that the Trump 10:03 Administration has been putting a lot of pressure on various Media or all media organizations to sort of bow down to him and maybe there is this effort up top not necessarily specifically just about Gaza but about critical commentary generally and uh I guess one way to sort sort of sanitize that for Trump is to make the audience or make the the host on air uh more white or at least take away the uh individuals who are not white that are more critical both of trump and of issues such as the Israeli government and those Mass atrocities again I don't know I'm spit Pauling here it's unclear obviously as to why her show was cancelled considering the ratings considering that she was well loved clearly within the network uh you know having having been someone who's been critical of media for for almost a decade at this point 11:00 seeing Joy Reed go from where she once was um who was somebody who was I would say not very critical at all of power to somebody who has been I think fantastic in the past several years has really been something to witness to to see somebody be able to evolve on air like that as they gain more power usually it's the opposite usually you get a show you gain more power within you know a certain position and you sanitize yourself Joy Reed's gone in the opposite direction where the more power she's gotten within the network she's gotten more Bolder in her uh decisions to talk about these issues in a way that very few other anchors on air are doing so it's been wonderful to watch that and to then only see her Show get cancelled after all that is disheartening Peter binard sharing this on Twitter years from now Joy Reed will be able to hold her head high because of what she said about Gaza not all journalists will very true I'm going to end on a couple of MSNBC Clips here so forgive me but they're good Clips so this is uh the opening of Joy Reed's 12:01 final show and I think this is Evergreen We Begin tonight with what I think is the question when you are in the midst of a crisis and specifically a crisis of democracy how do you resist when fascism isn't just coming it's already here so what if anything can you do about it well for one thing you can try to learn from history from what people in this situation in countries around the world and in America have done before as my friend Rachel mat always says history is here to help America hasn't always been a free country for everyone and we've had resistance movements from day one from enslaved people fighting their captivity shout out to Harriet tubin who was a 92 percenter before 92 pering was cool and even taking up arms during the Civil War to the women's movement and the workers rights movement and the Stonewall gay rights movement they've all been versions of the fight to make this a free country for everyone and to 13:01 have a true multi-racial democracy and that is history's most important lesson right that the most important thing the first rule is to fight back to never stop resisting do not obey in advance as Tim Snyder put it do not take the knee to throw in a Game of Thrones reference even if it's scary or uncomfortable or inconvenient just keep saying no or finding creative ways to say no in small ways and large mear ever said do not shop where they will not employ you Dr King Champion the Montgomery Bus boycotts to become the leader of the Civil Rights Movement the labor Rights Movement shut down factories and hobbled Industries to win the 40-hour work week that you enjoy right now and more recently to ensure the right of workers to work from home during covid people have marched against the Vietnam War and the war in Iraq and against the decimation of Gaza using our tax dollars you don't always win every battle but the whole thing is about 14:03 resisting just a little taste there of Joy Reed's final episode that is a great opening and a real breakdown of how important it is to fight Joy Reed's voice as I said I thought think has become more important over the years uh as she has spoken up about these issues in a way that very other very few other people in that position have I think she's going to be fine uh you see Betty h on with his new network to Teo he's doing fantastic they're starting new shows like Bowman and bush with Cory Bush and Jamal Bowman two former Congress left leaning Congress people so I could potentially see Joy Reed ending up at a place like that but I think she's going to be fine there's going to be people that that are going to um find whatever she does I want to get to now the last clip here this is uh the latter half of that Rachel mattow segment where she thanks Cruz and discusses how hard it is right now for people working 15:01 behind the scenes and how the culture at MSNBC according to her has been changing again this is an example of Rachel matow not giving an f about what the executives think and uh standing up for the workers there but one thing you cannot necessarily see is that the people who get our shows on the air they're really being put through the ringer um dozens of producers and staffers including some who are among the most experienced and most talented and most special IST producers in the building um are facing being laid off they're being invited to reapply for new jobs um that has never happened at this scale in this way before when it comes to programming changes presumably because it's not the right way to treat people and it's inefficient and it's unnecessary and it kind of drops the bottom out of whether or not people feel like this is a good place to work and so we don't generally do things that way maybe all of our folks including most of the people who are getting this very show on the air right now maybe 16:02 they will all get new jobs here and I hope they do but in the meantime being put in this kind of limbo the anxiety and the discom discombobulation is off the charts at a time when this job already is extra stressful and difficult it is not news for me to tell you that the press and freedom of the press are under attack in a way that is really um it's a big deal for our country it's very visceral for us here I know that the business of the press is not an easy thing and I know that no job is forever but um I think I think I'm safe in saying for for all of us anchors who you know through the TV please know that what pains us the most is not what happens to us it is what happens to our co-workers on whom we Depend and who you don't necessarily know but we respect and love them and depend on them and did I mention we respect them this is a difficult time in the news 17:01 business but it does not need to be this difficult we welcome new voices to this place and and some familiar voices to new hours it's going to be great honestly and we want to grow and succeed and reach more people than ever and be resilient and stay here forever I also believe and I bet you believe that the way to get there is by treating people well finding good people good colle colleages doing good work with them and then having their back that we could do a lot better on a lot better and that right there is a direct shot at MSNBC Executives now are they going to care probably not but it's worth noting the longer that these corporate types keep treating their workers like crap the higher chance it is that they are going to fight back potentially with something like a 18:00 mass walkout maybe a general strike organized by someone like I don't know the UAW president Shan Fain who has already been discussing such a thing so look I don't want to go off on a different topic here but a general strike uh could do a lot for society reminding the ownership class who actually holds the power the workers are the only reason that these Executives that these people that control these companies the only reason they have any wealth any power at all if people ban together and fight back and remind them of that it could be a different Society maybe one maybe move to one that is uh around the interests of the vast majority of people of the working class but again different topic for a different day good to see the uh ground of support here for Joy Reed 19:00 again somebody who I think has clearly evolved in her coverage of news over the past decade or so and she's going to be fine but keep a note of what MSNBC and other networks are doing right now under Donald Trump

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