Why I Left MSNBC
Written by Glenn Kirschner
Feb 16, 2025
884K subscribers
- After 6.5 years as a legal analyst with NBC News and MSNBC, I asked to be released from my contract. The MSNBC leadership was very gracious and supportive, and agreed to release me.
- This video explains why I decided to leave MSNBC and what I'll be doing moving forward.
- I am now 100% independent in all of my legal analysis work, and I've just launched on Substack, where you can find my columns, my posts and my other work.
- I hope you'll consider following me on Substack (where I don't put any of my content behind a paywall):
- GlennKirschner.Substack.com
Transcript
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- so friends after 6 and A2 years as a
- legal analyst with
- MSNBC I've decided to try something
- different I've decided to stop preaching
- to the converted and focus instead on
- talking and
- listening across the Great
- Divide can we talk about
- that because
- Justice matters
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- hey all Glen kersner here so friends in
- what was a difficult decision I asked
- the good Folks at
- MSNBC if they'd be willing to let me out
- of my
- contract they were gracious they were
- supportive and they
- 1:00
- agreed and with your kind Indulgence I
- think the easiest way to explain what
- motivated this decision and what I'll be
- doing next is to read a short piece that
- I authored titled why I left
- MSNBC and we'll talk about it on the
- other side why I left MSNBC for the past
- six and a half years I've had the
- pleasure and privilege of appearing on
- TV to discuss and analyze the legal
- issues of the day I'll be honest growing
- up as a rough and tumble kid in Jersey
- someone who was far more interested in
- playing football wrestling drinking beer
- with my buddies and getting in minor
- scrapes with the law I never thought
- anyone would give me the opportunity and
- yet I became an onair legal analyst for
- NBC News and
- MSNBC discussing legal developments
- involving
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- among other things criminal
- investigations and prosecutions of a
- president of the United
- States having spent 30 years as a
- federal prosecutor first as an army Jag
- prosecutor for more than 6 years then as
- a Department of Justice lawyer at the
- dcus attorney's office for 24 years
- Prosecuting cases in the courts of
- Washington DC I was comfortable
- discussing legal issues involving
- criminal investigations and prosecution
- the way I looked at it after talking to
- juries for 30 years about the facts and
- the law I could probably talk for 3 to
- four minutes at a time as I looked into
- a TV Camera don't get me wrong as I sat
- in the MSNBC Studios at 30 Rockefeller
- Center the day after I retired from the
- Department of Justice about to appear on
- television for the first time I was
- pretty damn
- nervous I know I can talk to a jury I
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- thought to myself but I have no idea if
- I can talk on
- TV but as I started answering questions
- from the anchor Alex wit I settled in
- and the nerves subsided a bit I've often
- told the story of how at the end of that
- first appearance Alex said on air quote
- Glenn consider yourself booked for next
- weekend that was an incredibly generous
- and reassuring thing for her to say
- signaling that I must have done okay
- I'll always love Alex wit for those kind
- words shortly thereafter MSNBC offered
- me a contract as a legal analyst and
- I've been with them ever since until
- just a few weeks
- ago I relished the opportunity to
- explain the legal developments of the
- day developments that not only came at
- Breakneck speed but that often were
- accompanied by a healthy dose of Spin
- and dis
- 4:00
- information I was convinced that
- discussing what were often complex or
- confusing legal issues in a way that was
- understandable to everyone was valuable
- and important my job title was legal
- analyst but my mission was to translate
- legal Le to English and to separate
- disinformation from
- truth I talked about special counsel
- Robert Mueller's investigation and the
- prosecutions that that investigation
- produced I covered for MSNBC The
- prosecutions in Washington DC of Roger
- Stone Steve Bannon the oathkeepers proud
- boys and others often running to the
- cameras outside the courthouse to
- provide real-time legal analysis of what
- was unfolding in the
- courtroom I discussed and analyzed the
- criminal cases against Hunter Biden and
- Senator Bob Menendez and of course I
- discussed the legal development in the
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- criminal investigations and prosecutions
- of Donald Trump for me enforcing the law
- has nothing to do with whether the
- defendant is a republican a Democrat or
- an independent it's about the facts and
- the law after a few years of regular
- sometimes daily appearances I had a
- growing
- concern was I making a positive
- contribution to what appeared to be the
- continual erosion of the vitality of the
- rule of law was I doing anything of
- value in the battle for a healthy
- American
- democracy the concern I think I tried
- for a long time to ignore or suppress
- was whether I was reaching diverse
- audiences put another way was I
- penetrating conservative bubbles or was
- I just preaching to the
- converted I think it's fair to say that
- relatively few Trump supporters watch
- MSNBC and relatively few Biden Harris
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- supporters regularly tuned in to Fox
- News Nation or other right leaning
- Outlets these days we don't seem
- interested in talking across the Great
- political divide rather we Retreat to
- our separate Echo Chambers not trying to
- convince or even talk with the other
- side it's become US versus them with
- seemingly little effort to try to
- appreciate or understand why we've been
- driven so far apart I find objectionable
- the notion of America being made up of
- us and them I've always maintained that
- it's not us and them it's just us
- different kinds of us different flavors
- of us perhaps with different ideologies
- and political preferences but not really
- with different
- priorities we want a good life for our
- kids we want to be safe we want to be
- healthy we want to be happy we want a
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- fair opportunity to move forward to
- succeed in life these are the things we
- have in common these are the things that
- should bind us together the things on
- which we can agree but if we can't even
- talk with one another how can we ever
- begin to bridge The
- Divide so I decided to do something
- different I don't pretend it will have
- some huge impact I'm just one voice
- still if we put enough voices together
- we can create a chorus that just might
- be
- heard I decided to offer myself up to
- any and all conservative news outlets to
- talk about the legal issues of the day
- from the perspective of a career Federal
- prosecutor I see Democrats like former
- Transportation secretary Pete Budaj and
- representative Eric swalwell appearing
- frequently on right-leaning networks to
- provide their take on issues their
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- counterpoints to the points being made
- by the program's anchor and or other
- guests now I'm not suggesting I will be
- as effective or compelling as budajudge
- or
- swalwell but I've decided there's more
- value in at least trying to reach a
- wider audience rather than just
- remaining comfortably in my own bubble
- given that my contract prohibited me
- from appearing on other news networks
- I made the difficult decision to ask
- MSNBC if they would consider releasing
- me from my contract I assured them I
- would not break my contract but was
- hoping they would understand my desire
- to try to communicate with some of my
- fellow Americans who likely don't spend
- much time watching
- MSNBC The MSNBC leadership was very
- gracious and supportive and agreed to
- release me with the only ask being that
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- I didn't sign as a legal analyst with
- anyone else during the next 6 months I
- gladly agreed to those
- terms a quick note about Independent
- Media versus mainstream media now I'm
- not going to launch into an attack on
- what these days is being referred to as
- Legacy Media or corporate media but I do
- think some of what als's America can be
- attributed to Media Outlets that decided
- to cover the 2024 campaign as if it were
- a normal election cycle it was not Trump
- is a convicted felon for crimes he
- committed in 2016 to conceal important
- information from the voters of New York
- about his unsuitability to be president
- he's also an adjudicated insurrectionist
- per a Colorado trial court and the
- Colorado Supreme Court a ruling that the
- United States Supreme Court Court
- neither contradicted nor disavowed when
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- it took up the Colorado
- case and of course we all saw what Trump
- incited on January 6
- 2021 so 2024 was no normal presidential
- campaign more recently I watched as
- cable news networks covered Trump's
- speech and Q&A session at the economic
- Forum at
- Davos Trump's address included
- lies half-truths and insults yet some
- networks broadcast his diet tribe
- largely uninterrupted and with little or
- no factchecking comment or correction I
- view this as damaging to our democracy
- and anathema to responsible
- journalism so I'm opting to be 100%
- independent in what I do moving forward
- in my writing my commentary and my daily
- legal analysis videos here on my Justice
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- matters YouTube channel as well as the
- legal breakdown videos I do with Brian
- Tyler Cohen on his YouTube channel
- building a bridge in these times of deep
- political and societal divisions isn't
- easy I may be just one voice but I'm
- making a commitment to this Mission
- doing this now in the urgency of the
- moment so friends
- as a result of leaving mainstream Media
- or Legacy Media or corporate media
- whatever you want to call it and going
- 100% independent uh I just launched on
- substack now a couple of things to know
- I don't put anything behind a pay wall
- on substack so you can go there for free
- you can follow me or they call it
- subscribing but none of my work will be
- behind a pay wall you can see whatever
- it is I'm writing what I'm posting the
- videos I'm putting up there every day
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- second if you want to go to substack and
- find my work it's just Glen kersner dos
- substack
- docomo find third you may still see me
- from time to time on any number of
- mainstream media Outlets left right or
- Center but I will not be a paid
- contributor or a paid legal analyst I
- will be 100% independent but I hope to
- go on media Outlets across the political
- Spectrum to talk about the importance of
- the rule of law to the continued not
- only Health but viability of our
- democracy and then finally friends let's
- finish up with this I not only welcome
- but I value your thoughts your
- suggestions your feedback about this new
- direction I've chosen and as you may
- know by now you can always send me a
- message at my website Glen kersner dcom
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- I promise you that I read every message
- even though it's hard to reply to many
- of them but you all are my focus group
- and I not only welcome but value your
- thoughts your observations your
- suggestions about what it is I've
- decided to do not just talk but listen
- across the Great
- Divide but one thing will never change
- friends we will all remain in this mess
- together and that's the way we will win
- this battle for the rule of law and for
- a healthy American
- democracy
- together because
- Justice
- matters friends as always please stay
- safe please stay tuned and I look
- forward to talking with you all again
- tomorrow
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