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US ELECTION 2024 MSNBC: JOHN KELLY SPEAKS OUT Otobüs Tutkusu: Deadline: White House 10/23/24 FULL HD \| 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 Breaking News October 23, 2024 PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQBgUWpzUtM Peter Burgess COMMENTARY For me, Trump is an old rich ignoramus! He is 110% bullshit! It is sad! But he is also very dangerous! The fact that a lot of high profile Republicans are choosing to vote of Kamala Harris is encouraging. Donald Trump must be denied the Presidency in the upcoming election! When I was young ... in my 30s ... I was impressed by the various projects of the Trump Organization in Manhattan like the Waldman Rink reconstruction in Central Park, The Commodore Hotel redevelopment into the Hyatt Hotel at Grand Central, and the Trump Tower on 5th Avenue. But over time, I learned more and more about Donald Trump as a seriously flawed human being. He does not deserve to be elected into the Presidency of the United States, but rather he needs to be removed from society and incarcerated! I met Donald Trump in person in Atlantic City at the time the 'Donald's' casino ventures were falling apart. I observed his 'modus operandi' where he wins even though everyone else loses everything. Most of the people around him were of the same type ... until they weren't! Peter Burgess
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Transcript 0:01 [Music] hi there everyone it's 4:00 in New York when we were last together right here we were sharing with you some extraordinary breaking news brand new reporting from the Atlantic on the disdain the ex-president and current Republican Presidential nominee has for the men and women in uniform his unconcealed racism and authoritarian impulses the title of that P Trump I need the kind of generals that Hitler had was just the tip of the iceberg when it came to all the stunning new details about what Trump said behind closed doors that reporting coming 14 days ahead of the election at the peak of a campaign season in which team Harris and team Trump are fighting for every single vote in the Battleground States it's a campaign where even if Donald Trump is a known quantity to most voters most Americans there are certain stories and certain Revelations that both sides 1:03 understand can and will still make an impact especially when those stories and Revelations come from people who were in the room where it happened once deep inside Donald Trump's orbit here's what friend of the broadcast and pollster Sarah Longwell said when I asked her what kind of stories still make a difference the generals um General Mattis General Kelly uh look one of the things that I hear from voters in F focus groups especially swing voters is that for the voters to whom it has broken through that Donald Trump HS our vet suckers and losers um that has an impact I think we need more of these generals to come out and say we have to support her because he's such a threat that's somebody that voters will trust who saw him up close now just hours after that release of the new reporting from the Atlantic came out yesterday a second bomb sh and 2:00 it is exactly what Sarah Longwell spoke about In that clip retired Marine General John Kelly who served as Donald Trump's chief of sta for a year and a half in his own words on tape sounding all of the alarms about Donald Trump's lack of character and Basic Fitness for the office John Kelly sat down for three on the record interviews with New York Times Reporter Mike Schmidt each answer that he gives is stunning on its own but taken together that composite paints an alarming portrait of an ex-president it is a warning for all of us to take Donald Trump seriously and literally when he talks about wanting to govern as a dictator do you what do you think do you think he's a fascist well I'm looking at the definition of fascism uh it's a farri right authoritarian Ultra nationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a Toral leader 3:01 centralized hypocrisy militarism forceable suppression of opposition belief in a natural social hierarchy so certainly in my experience those are the kind of things that he thinks uh would work better in terms of running America you know again back to this issue of uh you know democracy is uh is is is complicated uh messy to operate probably the worst kind of government there is except for all the other ones I think churchold one said that um and and again our constitution our foundies built in to the Constitution and to the way our government operates built in a lot of checks and balances and was didn't design the Govern to be streamlined and and whatnot so but but certainly uh the former president 4:03 uh is in the far right area he certainly an authoritarian um admires people who are dictators uh he has said that um so he certainly falls into into the general definition of of fascist for sure if he was left to his own devices would he be a dictator if he didn't have people around him oh I think he you he'd love to be uh I think he'd love to be just like he was in business he could tell people to do things and they would do it and uh and not really bother too much about whether uh what the legalities were and whatnot but again I I didn't know him before so I can't believe I mean is is he the biggest threat to the country that you've seen in your life out of all the threats like post 911 all these different things I think I think he's certainly the only president that has all but rejected what America is all 5:05 about and what makes America America in terms of our constitution in terms of our our our values you know the way we look at everything to include family and government and he's certainly the only president that I know of that was certainly in my certainly in my lifetime that was like that he would uh he be commented more of the ones that you know this hit did some good things too and of course if you know history um again I think he's lacking in that if you know what his you know Hitler was all about uh it You' be pretty hard to make an argument that he did anything good so what would you what would you say when he said to you that Hitler did a lot of good things well I tell him that I said you know if you first of all you should never say that but if you knew what History Hitler was all about from the beginning to the end 6:00 uh everything he did was in support of his racist fascist uh life you know you know philosophy so that nothing he did you could argue was good it was certainly not done for the right reason and um but he would occasionally say that what would he say when you would lay that out to him yeah he just you know that' be the end of the conversation usually I'm not recommending anything to anybody I'm just saying other than that when you're looking to vote for someone regardless you you got to you got to look at the character and all of those kind of things and then uh start looking at the individual's policies um we can always you know even if if you're Conservative Republican you know much of what's gone on the last three and a half years hasn't been what you've wanted to have happen to the 7:02 country but you know uh we can we can get by it because you might have you know a republican come in in the future but if if a person's character isn't uh at least minimally acceptable uh then I think that person can do a lot more U damage we've got to I just wish I'll end with this I just wish at the end of all of this uh whoever wins that that person um and the leadership in the country certainly the political leadership in Washington to include the House and Senate that people say okay let's take a breath let's step back this has been this has been really really hard let's let's try to come back together as Americans stop hating each other just because we have a difference of opinion on political issues I just hope we do that somehow uh 8:00 I don't know if we will though but I hope we will I hope whoever becomes the president will will start that process let's let's become friends again importantly there's only one candidate running um on a message of stopping hating each other and it's not Donald Trump the push back to those three interviews and the reporting of them from Donald Trump and his campaign has been intense has been personal and it has been nasty the campaign claiming that the stories General Kelly tells in that taped interview are fabricated that General Kelly has quote be clowned himself it's the kind of reaction that suggests what we all know and that the campaign clearly knows it has been dealt a major political blow here's former National Security adviser John Bolton who worked with General Kelly the Trump campaign has attacked John's credibility uh in in any uh 9:01 comparison of what John Kelly might say versus what Donald Trump might say about a particular event or what these munchkins on the Trump campaign are saying about John Kelly uh you you can take what John says to the bank I'm absolutely convinced I I didn't hear many probably most of these uh statements myself but if John says that Donald Trump said them I I I believe it implicitly uh I think uh it's uh certainly this recitation of what he's done uh should be compelling to people not to vote for Trump would be compelling PE to people not to vote for Trump remarks earlier today vice president KLA Harris weighed in as well this is a window into who Donald Trump really is from the people who know him best from the people who worked with him side by side in the Oval Office and in the situation room and it is clear from John Kelly's words that Donald Trump is someone who I quote certainly falls into the general definition of 10:06 fascist who in fact vowed to be a dictator on day one and vowed to use the military as his personal militia to carry out his personal and political vendettas Donald Trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable and in a second term people like John Kelly would not be there to be the guard rails against his propensities and his actions those who once tried to stop him from pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there and no longer be there to Reign him in so the bottom line is this we know what Donald Trump wants he wants unchecked power the question in 13 days will be what do the American people want thank you that is indeed the question a dire 11:04 warning to voters about Donald Trump's lack of character and lack of Fitness from his longest serving chief of staff on the eve of the presidential election is where we start today here at the table we're joined by Mike Schmidt the New York Times Reporter who spoke with General Kelly in those taped interviews and Paul rof host of The Independent Americans podcast founder and CEO of independent Veterans of America um thank thank you for the join yesterday from the baseball field we're happy to see you today at the table Mike Schmidt how did these interviews come to be I think that uh the major motivating factor for Kelly was Trump's recent comments about using the military domestically Kelly essentially made a deal with himself when he stopped serving as Trump's chief of staff and that deal was basically if Trump said something that was wildly inaccurate that related to something that Kelly was involved in then he would speak out and clarify the record or if Trump were to say something that was potentially 12:05 damaging to the country and really troubling he would also speak out and I have been trying to get John Kelly to answer these questions in a forum like this for for a long time but when Kelly saw the comments Trump made about using the military against Americans for Kelly that was a red line and I think that John Kelly sees um The Divide between um the military being something that defends the United States abroad and the military not being used on American citizens as something that is rooted in history that goes all the way back to George Washington I think that Kelly it's part of his ethos I think that this was not something that he willingly did I think that he struggled with the fact that he himself he struggles with the same issue that that bothers him about he struggles with the fact that I'm a retired uniformed military officer 13:04 weighing in on something related to a political event this is someone who hates partisan politics but I think was so bothered by the comments about using the military domestically that he felt a willingness to say uh to say essentially four things one I'm not endorsing anyone I'm not telling you who to vote for who I'm voting for um I am saying saying that I think character and fitness is really important if not more important than policy and I think you should know what I saw up close and you should have some flavor of that um and and I think the the obviously a lot has been written about Kelly Kelly gave a statement to CNN a year ago a lot was written in the Atlantic about Kelly A lot's been written in books about Kelly by myself and by colleagues and at the times and such the difference here is the audio the difference here is the audio and as 14:03 a reporter uh doing this you know for several years you start to realize that the written text while really important and the Bedrock of what we do is is is only goes so far and if you're trying to constantly find a new way to tell a story and to demystify the world to people you have to look for other ways to come up with it and in this case it's hearing it from Kelly there's nothing that Kelly says that is that is too different than if you've been following the Trump Story the understanding of the Trump story but here you have someone who is going on the record who you can hear in his own voice and I think that's the difference I think that's what makes this um you know different than a text story and agreeing to be recorded and share the audio um um just explain how 15:00 that came to be and and and where you were when you first agree agreed to be recorded I just asked him I said can I record this and he said it was okay to record it and then I came back to him and I said look I said we've recorded this I think it's really important that not just people read what you have to say but that they hear it because I think that um you know Kelly is is bothered by the fact that Trump has denied losers and suckers and that there was an effort in 2020 to push back on the Atlantic story and kelly didn't even realize it at the time that the Trump campaign had such a coordinated effort where they got these different people together to say that they never heard this and it was only a few years ago that Kelly actually figured that out and it really bothered him that that Trump denied it because I think to Kelly it was an awful thing to say and in some ways I think it questioned you know Kelly's credibility so I said to him I 16:03 said look people need to hear it from you it's a different thing to to read something than it is to hear it and um we're going to do a story on this but we're also going to publish the audio of it and he said okay he said okay and then he does two more recorded interviews with you um let me play some more because I think the important thing about losers and suckers is to Kelly that isn't even the most odious thing he says on the topic I'll play that but he basically said to you that those who died for America on the battlefield were losers and suckers and he said it more than once yes uh but but he would say it would always did something else would get him going often times again mcain he talk about and it was it was like a almost a quing but the point is anyways 17:00 he would say it at at times sometimes unexpectedly but he never could wrap his arms around why people would serve uh the country in uniform what was in it for them I think he just could never wrap his arms around why people would do things selflessly what's in it for them I think there are much more powerful you know but that's just me what's the significance of his lack of understanding of the entire concept of public service in Kelly's view I think it's that Trump doesn't understand sacrifice and he doesn't understand a dedication to the country it's it's actually rooted in I think what Kelly would say is that Trump doesn't have an appreciation for the Constitution he doesn't have an appreciation that if you're in the government or if you're in the military you have taken an oath to the Constitution and that you don't serve an individual and this starts with Trump early on in his presidency talking about my generals I think that made the generals very uneasy but it was the idea 18:02 that the generals were loyal to their oath to the Constitution and they weren't loyal to Trump and that the larger idea that there were people who made major sacrifices for this country that gave up limbs that gave up their lives in defense of defending the United States and Kelly says including defending Donald Trump and look the thing that cannot be ignored in all of this is is the most tragic part about this and that is that John Kelly is the most senior American military officer to lose a child on the battlefield in the post 911 Wars and so you don't just have Donald Trump saying these things about sacrifice as he's walking through Arlington National Cemetery with Kelly through Section 60 where you know Kelly's son is buried um he's saying this to you know to Kelly it's he's not 19:01 just a general who was out on the battlefield this is a general who who gave the ultimate sacrifice to the country and his son and I don't know um I still don't know if I'll ever be able to wrap my head around all of that and um you know I don't know well it's cut check time for America and uh John Kelly is delivering a gut punch to Donald Trump that will resonate and I think it's so significant that he's finally come out and spoken for people to hear his voice this is what we've been waiting for uh the only other shoot to drop might be Mattis right Mattis hasn't spoken publicly I don't think on the record extensively recently and that would be another body blow to Trump in the final hours that would particularly resonate with Independence and key swing States many of whom are veterans but I think I keep stepping back and and watching how much this m must be hurting because they're attacking him so ferociously I just came from another Network where a partisan Governor just 20:04 crapped on John Kelly like he was nobody they're crapping on the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs the former Secretary of Defense even you know Dick Cheney I mean they've all lined up in a circle around Trump and they're saying the same thing and John Kelly's son Robert was killed by a landmine in Afghanistan and that has got to be what's motivating him in this moment to ring this Bell for all Americans I'm a father of two boys the idea of them joining and and losing them overseas is incomprehensible to me but if that did happen nothing would stand in the way of me telling the truth and communicating the sacrifice of my son to the American people and and that's what he's doing and it's hitting hard and he needs to go further I think if if KLA Harris wants to deliver a closing argument next week have him there have Millie there have mccristal there have Dick Cheney there have Mark esper there have everybody in the defense community that has served with Trump and is now opposed to him and remind him remind 21:04 everybody that they're gone and that if Trump is elected I I talked to Tom Bowman in my podcast tomorrow the Pentagon reporter for for the NPR for NPR and he says that there are folks who have told him that they're going to leave the Pentagon they're going to retire if Trump gets elected The Brain Drain we will experience in our military is is is like nothing we've seen if this guy gets elected except for the folks who will stay inside to try to do what Kelly and Mattis and others do which is keep them in check imagine a world where Trump didn't have Mattis and Kelly and all these guys around him that's the world we're gonna have if he gets elected mik and Paul aren't going anywhere there's there's so much more there's more to play for you there's more to discuss there more people to have this conversation with also ahead as we've been discussing General John for the disabled well certainly his is not wanting to be seen with an amputees amputees that lost their limbs in defense of this country for every American to him included to protect them 22:02 that didn't want to be seen with them um that's uh that's that's an interesting perspective for the commander-in chief to have why didn't he want to be seen with them he would just say look it doesn't look good for me um so anyways I don't know I not a psychiatrist if you're a psychiatrist I guess you could take a stab at some of these questions but I'm not again reporting on um uh General Millie has also included um a lot of these anecdotes that Trump um didn't want to be seen uh with the men and women who haven't just served our country but have um literally left um parts of themselves on the battlefield um I know General millee and his wife work a lot on the invisible injuries which is a huge um part of the veteran that that'll be making a decision in 14 days but um 23:02 Kelly seems almost I mean that you have to ask a question the question is as notable as the answer does he have disdain for the disabled talk about that exchange I I mean I I look this is an example of uh things have been reported about what Trump said to Kelly about amputees and about things that Trump has said to other military officials about it but to hear it from Kelly I just thought was was something else that that needed to be layered on to this and needed to be um explained and again not something that totally changes our understanding but something that when you hear it from Kelly it just resonates in a different way and it helps explain the story in a different way and um that's why you know there's a lot of you know unsavory questions in there that are difficult questions to ask about uh 24:02 disain for the disabled does Trump have any empathy um ask what's the answer to that no he doesn't have any empathy um you know asking you know questions about what Trump said about Hitler um these are all pretty awful things to be asking about and to be talking about and I think if Kelly had his way he would never really have to talk about them but I think that when he SE SE the comments about using the military and he looks at at the con the potential consequences of trump coming back I think he thought that that he I don't know if he thought he had no choice but I thought that that was a strong motivating factor for him to do what he did Kelly um is aware of the absolute immunity Donald Trump would have for official acts as is um one of the former meller prosecutors we talk talk about how that turbocharges their fears well what what Kelly says is that 25:05 sure Trump might be able to have immunity from different things if he comes back you know Kelly has an understanding of the Supreme Court decision but he says if you work for him you won't and he talks about how Mark Meadows got himself into a lot of trouble in follow going along with what Trump wants wanted and that if you are someone who works for Trump Kelly says you know there's Trump wants people to he doesn't care if people who work for him break the law and they could suffer consequences that he wouldn't because he could be potentially immune from them and I think that and this is a Nuance thing and there's some people that would you know disagree with this but I think that there's a difference between the first two years of the presidency and the second two years of the presidency uh the first two years of the presidency 26:03 are not textbook years of any presidency and there's obviously a lot of things that um didn't go well to to put it um nicely but there is an Unshackled nature to Trump's behavior in the second two years and Kelly takes note of that and look Kelly believed he was a force for keeping Trump on the tracks and the thing that I find most remarkable able about um Kelly in in in this I mean there's obviously a lot that I find remarkable but is that if Kelly could have I think he would have stayed longer so people say well why didn't you leave you know and Kelly would say I I wish I could have stayed longer and that he left too early and even this is crazy even even during Co Kelly wanted to go back back I think Kelly wanted to go back because Kelly 27:02 thought that he could potentially keep Trump on the tracks as the country was dealing with this massive thing and obviously John Kelly doesn't think very highly of Donald Trump and had a very brutal time doing it but I think he would have gone back like I think if Trump had called him in the middle of Co and said will you come back I think Kelly would have gone back even knowing everything about it I think he would have stayed all four years if he could have if he could have taken it I mean Millie does um I just thinking one more break but I want to I don't want to lose this um important Revelation that again has been reported but we've never we've never heard it in the words of a general who heard Donald Trump say that being around um amputees and wounded veterans um quote doesn't look good for me so I'll give you a second to mold that we I'll be right back so the question the country will have an answer to Is who do voters believe the serial liar with a very public record of what is most 28:03 generously speaking autocrat Envy or everyone else it's not just General John Kelly after all he may be the latest but you can hardly throw a stone up in the air without it landing on a member of Donald Trump's cabinet who expressed a similar sort of warning General Kelly isn't even the only General to have had such thoughts as we've been discussing former chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Millie told Bob Woodward Trump is quote fascist to the core and quote the most dangerous person to the country a short time later former Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis reportedly told Bob Woodward he agreed with that assessment then there are the 10 retired military leaders generals and Admirals who have endorsed vice president kamla haris they did that last month followed in short order by 700 current and former National Security leaders who did the same in an open letter just listen Len to what military leaders had to say about the disgraced ex 29:02 president I mean 31 years I spent in the Army I didn't know if my boss is a Democrat or Republican I didn't know I didn't care but since six January things have changed and Insurrection I said now is the time to step up I mean what are we going to do we going to wait until the Jack Boots Are marching down the street and the brown shirts come rolling out our kids get enrolled in Trump youth is that is that the time to start getting involved of course not we need to step up now you have a former president now running for the presidency again you seem to have core character questions is he fit for office or not hey Bob let's be honest why would a retired military officer come on to endorse his opponent you tell me because I think character is very important and so I'm voting for character I'm voting for kamla Harris well joining our coverage retired US Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel founder of democratic majority action pack Amy McGrath joins us also joining us political strategy iist MSNBC senior analyst the man who has become my human Xanax in these final 13 days Matt D is 30:03 here um Paul I want you to pick up on um that last bit of audio we played from General Kelly about Trump feeling like being around um Wounded Warriors and ute's quote doesn't look good for me it's all about him he's all about self and it's the opposite of the leadership values that we were all trained in in the military that's why so many of these retired generals are calling out his character leadership at its core is about sacrifice and that's something that Trump fails to do and you can't help but also compare it to the fact that his kids are not that far away in age from Kelly's kids his kids could have served his kids could have died in Afghanistan and they didn't so it draws that contrast but the contempt he has for the disabled for just about everybody is an insight into who he truly is but it's also really really important because he continues to be focused on such important strangely important situ like Vanessa Gan van aan who he calls detestable things be sparked a movement she was murdered brutally at Fort Hood she's a woman 31:05 she's a woman of color right who was brutally murdered that sparked a movement that resulted in the Vanessa Gan act that reformed military sexual trauma sexual harassment in the military she is a really important pivotal figure in the transformation of our military and he says that about her and he says this about wounded people so the thing I want folks to remember is the military can feel far far off it can feel like other people's kids it can feel like the other but I want to remind people if he feels that way about us how do you think he feels about you the guy who guy or gal who have an average job or you're just working to make a living if he feels this way about America's Superheroes how does he feel about you and I hope that's something that folks remember in the next couple days when they go to the Post Amy what what explains the abundance of evidence that Trump has disdain for the men and women of the military losers and suckers in particular those who spend time in captivity John McCain in particular those who are shot down 32:01 George H W bush in particular the amputees yeah clearly Donald Trump doesn't get it and one of the things that General Kelly said really struck with me uh is he said you know Donald Trump has rejected what America is all about and just to take one of those things that you just listed off prisoners of War you know it's reported in the Atlantic now that you know Donald Trump uh said that prisoners of War should just be left behind I mean anybody that's served in the military you have to understand how offensive that is that is against our very core beliefs and you know but this is this is a long pattern with Donald Trump he's been disrespecting the military for a very long time and frankly disrespecting American values I mean he is the opposite of everything that I learned learned and was taught at the US Naval Academy and everything I learned about leadership and character 33:03 in the United States Marine Corps the key is getting that message out the voters Matt Dow um tell me your thoughts about this story and its impact on the race as it is today sure one I just want to take up what what Amy was just saying is I think what offends him so much by the military is because it provides a lens into who Donald Trump really is it it casts a light on sort of the just the base corrupt you know disgusting nature of Donald Trump who does nothing except for self and a person in the military especially somebody that's given the sacrifice lost a limb lost a loved one it shines such a bright light on who Donald Trump is and he knows that he knows fundamentally those men and women when when he's exposed to them make him makes the Badness of him even even more 34:00 apparent to people and so that's why I think of it I mean I think this is one of those moments in a campaign that happens at the end that I think is more powerful than probably any political ad or any other thing that could have happened I actually think this could be determinative um I remember in the wistful days of the 2000 campaign just to give you a sort of insight in what can happen when the DUI for George W Bush appeared on the Thursday before election day now think about this a 24 year old DUI I mean those were the days when a DUI could actually have impact on conservatives and Republicans because character mattered at that point Flash Forward now today this much obviously dramatically worse dramatically you know completely out of syn in that that DUI information and I this is why I counsel people to like observe what this can do it's not going to shift people from a trump voter to a Harris voter what it's 35:01 likely to do is the same thing that happened with the DUI which happened with the DUI and I know this because I put three polls in the field after that happened in Ohio Florida and Michigan and what changed was people's motivation to vote there was about a six or seven perc drop among conservatives and Republicans to vote for George W bush and it took Michigan from a tie to a state we were losing in matter of 72 hours it took Ohio from a comfortable state to a state we were barely winning and it took Florida from a state that we were winning by one or two to a state that was tied all of that happened over the course of three or four days and again it didn't what didn't it didn't do was shift a vote from one to from Al Gore to George or from George W to Al Gore what it did was it demotivated people that had suspicions about the about the character of George W bush then but Donald Trump now and I think one thing people ought to keep in mind 36:00 why this could be so important in a one or twoo shift in some of these key States is that five or six perent of people that are voting for Donald Trump today do not like him and do not think he has the character be to be president but they're voting for him those people I think will be fundamentally impacted by what the the news that's come out in the last 24 hours all right no one's going anywhere we have to Sak in a quick break when we are back congressman and and Jason Crow will join the conversation stay with us for foreign speech

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