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US POLITICS PETE BUTTIGIEG ... JULY 29TH 2024 The Daily Show: Pete Buttigieg on Kamala Harris’s Campaign, VP Vetting, & JD Vance \| The Daily Show PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jli0_oKMG-0 Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
Pete Buttigieg on Kamala Harris’s Campaign, VP Vetting, & JD Vance \| The Daily Show The Daily Show Jul 29, 2024 11.6M subscribers ... 5,992,031 views ... 152K likes #DailyShow #Comedy “What’s the point of having a conversation if you’re not speaking to people who don’t already agree with you?” Pete Buttigieg talks to Jon Stewart about why he goes on Fox News, the significance of President Joe Biden stepping aside to make room for Kamala Harris as the presumptive Democratic nominee, the possibility of being vetted for vice president, and his thoughts on Trump’s own VP pick, JD Vance. #DailyShow #Comedy Subscribe to The Daily Show: / @thedailyshow Follow The Daily Show: Twitter: / thedailyshow Facebook: / thedailyshow Instagram: / thedailyshow Stream full episodes of The Daily Show on Paramount+: http://www.paramountplus.com/?ftag=PP... Follow Comedy Central: Twitter: / comedycentral Facebook: / comedycentral Instagram: / comedycentral Watch full episodes of The Daily Show: https://www.cc.com/shows/the-daily-show About The Daily Show: Jon Stewart and The Best Fking News Team host The Daily Show, an Emmy and Peabody Award-winning program analyzing the biggest stories in news, politics, and culture through a sharp, satirical lens. The Daily Show redefined the late night show category on TV and, with an audience of over 51M across social media platforms, has become a launching pad for some of the biggest stars in entertainment. The Daily Show airs weeknights at 11/10c on Comedy Central. Transcript** Intro 0:00 Please, welcome to the program Pete Buttigieg. [CHEERING] Let me tell the story-- They're going crazy! Let me tell the story. [CHEERING] Um-- [CHEERING] CROWD: Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! 1:00 Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! [CHEERING] That, uh, is all the time we have. [LAUGHTER] It's been great. I've gotta tell you, so, I was coming out-- I come out earlier, just to talk to the audience, have some words. There was a lovely woman in the audience. She stood up, and she said, is the future Madam President here tonight? And I said, uh, I'm not sure what you're saying, and she said, Kamala Harris. And I said, oh, you thought Kamala Harris is here tonight, and she's not, and there was a sadness that crept over her face. [LAUGHTER] But you just healed it. [CHEERING] You just healed sadness. Glad I could be helpful. [APPLAUSE] I swear to God, though, you are-- For liberals, watching you go on Fox News and discuss things in a rational manner, it is, for liberals, It's like when Gosling hosts SNL. Fox News 2:01 It's just like, oh, he's so good at this! Is that an uncomfortable thing to do? Is it something you enjoy? A little bit. I mean, I never thought that Fox News would be, like, a specialty of mine. JON STEWART: Yes. [LAUGHTER] It's not something I watched a ton of before I found myself going on it often. You ain't missing much, sir. You ain't missing much. But you know what I found, is it is important to reach people where they are. And even if I'm skeptical sometimes that the network is 2:30 covering things in good faith, I know lots of people who 2:33 are tuning in in good faith. JON STEWART: Right. 2:36 And, so, in the same way that, you know, 2:37 back when I was running for president, 2:38 I kind of specialized in counties that had voted 2:41 for Obama, and then for Trump. That's how I won Iowa, really, was partly through that kind of outreach, and finding people who are not hardcore partisans, but do usually get their information in a very certain, and I would argue, very narrow way. I have a chance, as long as they'll have me on, I have a chance to, you know, puncture that bubble, 3:01 and I feel like I have to do it. Do you find anecdotal feedback that it's heard, other than, you know, a clip going viral, or something like that? Will you be at home in Michigan, will you be somewhere, and someone that you know is more red-partisan will say to you, hey, I caught you on there? Yeah, I mean, it literally happened to me today. And to be clear, it's not like somebody says, you know, I was a rock-ribbed Republican, and I saw your four-minute Fox News segment, and I've seen the light, and now I'm a Democrat. But, you know, I do hear from people I know who are more conservative, 3:31 or probably don't usually vote the way I do, but they'll say, 3:33 you know, I saw the way you laid things out, 3:35 you know, I understand where you're coming from, 3:37 or I think the way you laid it out could make sense. 3:38 Right. 3:40 And, you know, I'm under no illusion that you can just, you 3:43 know, on the strength of a witty argument, or, you 3:44 know, a-- 3:45 Man, are you preaching to-- Yup! 3:47 You're right! 3:49 [LAUGHTER] Doesn't do jack-- [HONKING] But I get it. I get the smartness of it. But politics is a conversation right? And what is the point of having a conversation if you're not speaking to people who don't already agree with you? 4:01 Son of a bitch. That's so smart, and it's exactly the way it should be. [APPLAUSE] Are you, right now, by the way-- An unbelievably tumultuous, I mean, week, like, eight days. Has it felt that way inside the administration? How did you find out about it? In that situation, does the President call everybody together and go, hey, everybody, got some news-- Like, how does it work? 4:28 No, I mean, that would be a very long list of everybody, 4:30 you know, to talk to. 4:31 So, I found out the way everybody did. 4:33 I was actually on a plane, fittingly enough, taxiing in, 4:36 and Chasten was sitting next to me, and checking Twitter, 4:38 and saw the post. 4:40 And so we found out the same way everybody else did. 4:43 And, yeah, ever since, I think a lot of us, you know, 4:45 our heads are spinning. 4:46 So much has changed. But part of what's changed is this incredible energy that we have now. - Right. You know, I was home over the weekend, stopped by the field office for the now-Harris campaign, next to where we live in Traverse City-- Did they literally just take the poster down 5:00 and slap another one up there? Is that-- Like, it's the same office with the same people? Pretty much. And that's OK, because it's-- [LAUGHTER] Well, because it's the same values, and it's the same effort, right? I mean-- Oh, no, no, I get it. It's just fun. Yeah, no, I mean-- They just literally went like, whoop! [LAUGHTER] I will say, they got those yard signs ready really quick. 5:18 It was impressive. 5:19 Yeah, there's gotta be a Kinko's almost everywhere. 5:22 [LAUGHTER] 5:23 You know, obviously, you know, 5:24 she represents a lot of continuity with the values 5:28 of the Biden-Harris campaign and the Biden-Harris 5:30 administration, but also a different messenger, 5:33 a different style, a different approach, and people are clearly really fired up and excited about it. I know I am. - Do you think-- Is it-- This is such a strange question. And I don't know if you've spoken to him or not, but, like, do you think President Biden sees that, and is like, oh, fine? Like, or is he-- Like, does that-- I would imagine it would hurt your feelings. If that were me, it would hurt my feelings. I don't know. I think part of what he achieved with what's a really extraordinary thing, I mean, I think, even now, we might be underselling how world-historically 6:01 rare it is to be literally the most 6:04 powerful person in the world-- 6:05 And just be like, nah, it's fine. 6:06 --lay power aside, right, just because it's the right 6:08 thing to do. JON STEWART: Right. 6:12 But in doing so, I also think he's 6:13 consolidated his own standing as one 6:15 of America's great presidents. JON STEWART: Right. 6:17 And I also think he's very conscious that that means 6:19 sprinting through the tape and continuing to deliver 6:20 for the next six months. - Right. 6:21 What of the narrative about, like, they bullied him, 6:23 he was bullied! Is that even-- Could that-- Can you do that to a president? Can you be like, get out, and then the president will be like, stop yelling at me! No. I mean, that's the thing, right? 6:33 It was his call, and he made that call. 6:35 And people may second guess-- JON STEWART: Right. 6:36 Because those delegates were his. 6:38 Right. Yeah. 6:39 I mean, and people may second guess, you know, 6:41 the manner of it, or the timing of it. 6:43 but at the end of the day, it was his choice. 6:44 He made that choice. 6:45 And that must have been an extraordinarily 6:47 difficult choice, but also the right choice. 6:49 Now, are you being-- 6:51 So, now it's she is on a vice-presidential search. 6:54 Are you being vetted right now? 6:55 Would you know know if you're being vetted right now? 6:57 When they vet you, do you feel it? 7:00 Is it a physical sensation, you're being vetted? You know. Yeah, you know. You know when you're being vetted? - Yeah. - I may vet you-- I'm gonna vet you right now. - Please, don't. Please, don't. [LAUGHTER] Pretty, pretty, pretty good. All right. [LAUGHTER] What does it require? Like, is there literally a physical exam that goes along with being vetted? Not that I'm aware of. 7:27 But, I mean, look, all I should say about it is that, you know, 7:30 she is gonna make this decision. 7:31 She's got a process to help her make the decision. 7:32 She-- 7:33 JON STEWART: Oh, my God, you' being vetted. 7:34 [LAUGHTER] 7:35 I mean-- 7:37 Everything you say, even that, is being vetted. 7:40 [LAUGHTER] 7:41 (LAUGHING) Probably. 7:43 [LAUGHTER] 7:44 It's so uncomfortable, aren't you-- 7:47 Do you think the vetting process is different-- 7:49 To be in the administration, you probably 7:50 have to go through a process. - Yeah. In fact, I was thinking about it, because I was vetted to be part of the cabinet, and then, pretty soon after that, Chasten and I were going through the process of adoption. And, you know, it was kind of the same thing, 8:01 but with a social worker, instead 8:03 of a white-shoe law firm. 8:04 Really, I mean, there was a lot of-- 8:05 You know, the law firm is like, OK, 8:07 now, you know, tell me about your finances. 8:09 And, you know, a year or two later, 8:10 it was a social worker, who was like, 8:11 tell me about your finances. 8:13 And you go through step by step. 8:14 And one of the things you think about 8:15 is the journey that adoptive parents go through. 8:18 It does involve that kind of-- 8:20 You feel like you're under a microscope. 8:21 Right. 8:22 It's that the bar of adoption is high, 8:24 it's similar to, like, getting a 8:25 high-level, security-clearance position in government? 8:29 Yeah, I mean, not, not the exact same, obviously, but, you know, a surprising amount of overlap, right? Like, they wouldn't say-- Yeah. Was there certain parts of the vetting process for government where you were like, you're gonna let me get away with that? Like, was there anything-- Like-- [LAUGHTER] You know what I mean. Like-- If there was not, but if there was, would I describe it on television? [LAUGHTER] - Of course. This is cable. It's-- [LAUGHTER] See, that's my-- My problem is-- VP Vetting 9:02 The vetting process, because being vetted to be a road comic, the bar is don't die. [LAUGHTER] But, like, for public service, if I've got pictures in a shoe box that would disqualify me for working for the post office. Like, it's bad! [LAUGHTER] But, you know, you were in the military, 9:23 like, pretty clean. 9:24 Yeah, I think so. 9:25 Yeah. 9:27 I don't want to say anything, but it 9:28 sounded to me right there like you're hiding something. 9:30 [LAUGHTER] 9:32 Thanks a lot. 9:33 When will they tell you-- 9:34 Do they come to you afterwards and say, hey, 9:38 we're about to announce it, and you 9:40 made it to the quarterfinals, and you were great? 9:44 [LAUGHTER] 9:45 Like, will they announced that, or do you 9:46 find out, like, on Twitter, like everybody else? 9:48 I don't know. 9:50 What I know is that there's a flying formation-- 9:53 You're gonna talk values again, aren't you? 9:55 Yeah, probably. I probably should. 9:57 [LAUGHTER] 9:58 Well, look, what I'll say is, no matter 9:59 what the flying formation is gonna be, 10:01 I'm really excited to be part of this. I'm excited to be part of this campaign, because I really believe in it. And I feel that energy. I felt it on the ground, over the weekend. You've been back out on the road since this happened? Yeah, yeah. Kicked off a canvas in the Traverse City field office, and it felt amazing. Just there was an energy I hadn't felt since I was campaigning in Michigan in 2022, for the midterms, which also went really well. JON STEWART: Right. Right. So, you know, the but, as you memorably pointed out, 10:27 you know, three or four months is forever. 10:30 So, a lot of things are gonna happen. 10:31 There's gonna be a lot of ups and downs. 10:33 It's gonna be a roller coaster. 10:34 But I think we're ready for that, 10:35 largely because I think now we have a renewed awareness, 10:40 not just of what we're against, but what we're for. 10:43 And I think that's really important. 10:44 Look-- 10:45 Well, the message before was literally, 10:47 it doesn't matter what you see, that's worse, which is not-- [LAUGHTER] You know, it's not so compelling, you know what I mean? And people were thirsty. [APPLAUSE] And I don't say that to be disrespectful. 11:01 It just, like, seemed like, you know, what people were experiencing. Yeah. And I think, look, there is a temptation to have our message be entirely about Donald Trump, because we're so disturbed by what his return would mean. JON STEWART: Correct. Right. And maybe a little more, also, about JD Vance, because of how odd he's turned out to be. I've gotta tell you, boy, did that dude 11:21 drop a turd on launch. 11:23 [LAUGHTER] 11:24 Like, I've never seen anything like that, where, one day, they 11:26 were like, the heir to the MAGA fortune, and the MAGA, 11:30 Prince JD shall march, and he comes out, 11:32 and he's like, I hate cat ladies, you know? 11:35 No, it's rough. 11:36 And, you know, he just, like, systematically 11:38 insulted so many people. 11:39 And it's not just the kind of things he said, 11:42 but the policy ideas behind them. 11:44 Like, he has this idea that you should get extra votes if you have kids. Extra votes? Yeah, he's suggested that you should have extra votes if you're a parent. - Really? Now, I think there's lots of things-- You don't even get that in your own house! I'm a parent! 12:02 You don't get anything! [APPLAUSE] That's true. I'm starting to find that. I mean, ours are not yet three, but-- And it's rooted in this strange idea that it's not just-- He doesn't just say that being a parent gives you, you know, an important role as a citizen, which I agree with, that it gives you unique perspective on the future. It's that not being a parent makes you less. Oh, I think that's absolutely how he feels. [LAUGHTER] He said people who don't have children, this is a quote, have 'no physical commitment to the future of this country.' JON STEWART: Wow. [BOOING] And I just think about how, like, 'no physical commitment to the future of this country'-- Like, when I was deployed to Afghanistan, I didn't have kids back then, but I will tell you, especially when there was a rocket attack going on, my commitment to this country felt pretty physical. [APPLAUSE] And can I tell you something? Economic populism 13:00 [APPLAUSE] This is why-- [APPLAUSE] This is why people love seeing you go on those shows, because that framing is perfect. Because it does-- It points to that idea that who are you to tell what's in someone else's heart about what they feel about the future, or what they feel about this country? And the sacrifices that you made, as you said, without having had children, were tremendous. So, it's shocking. And I also have to address this sort of strange, I think, false populism on the right, the economic populism. The Roberts court has been the least worker-friendly court in God knows how long. PETE BUTTIGIEG: That's right. Their policies-- You know, they complain about globalization hurting workers, and I do think that's a correct formulation. I think we didn't do enough in that moment. But I don't think they realize what right-to-work states-- You know, what they think Mexico is to the United States, Texas is to New York. Like, it's a race to the bottom. Absolutely. 14:00 And there's all kinds of studies that show right-to-work states depress wages, they depress worker safety, they do all kinds of terrible-- So, what is this economic populism based on? Well, it's not based on policy. It's just body language. It's this idea that, if you just act like you are populist, that that counts, as if policy-- Look, I'm under no illusions that elections are just a policy exercise. A lot of it is vibes. A lot of it is style. But if your party has been systematically against unions, against a higher minimum wage, against things like paid family leave, against overtime, then just because you found Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock and put them on stage doesn't make you a friend of the working man, right? [APPLAUSE] Like, the substance actually matters. [CHEERING] Well, I would only say, it does make you a friend of the working man in the '80s. So, I think-- [LAUGHTER] I think that was helpful. In terms of that, I wonder, you know, ever since Reagan, 15:02 and I think Democratic administrations have gone along with it too much as well, the shift from a labor economy to an investment economy, and the penalties that labor faces versus-- You know, there's no question that equities and the investment market have done unbelievably well since, you know, the '80s, right, and that labor has, you know, wallowed much further behind. It's a shareholder economy. Why is it so difficult to get workers, forget about even unions, a place at the table at the companies? If these companies have done so well for their shareholders, why can't the workers share in that prosperity in the same way, as, why can't they be shareholders? Yeah. Well, I think that's right, although, I will say, one thing that unions are increasingly doing is getting employees a chance to participate in that profit sharing for exactly that reason, and getting that seat at the table. But that's exactly why it matters, not just kind of what your style or your affect is, but what you're 16:01 actually proposing to do. And I would say, you know, part of what we can be really proud of from the Biden-Harris years, and I think in a future Harris administration, too, is a real focus on returning a little more to a worker-led economy, or a worker-oriented economy that includes making things. - Rebalancing. - Yes. You know, the financialization, a lot of those trends have been very powerful, the role of the information economy, which has merged, in some ways, with manufacturing, because, you know, even a car is increasingly, you know, part car, part computer. But it's still really important that we make the cars here. And that's part of what we've been working to make happen. There was a manufactured recession during Trump, even before COVID. JON STEWART: Right. There is a manufacturing boom. Now you have to go back decades to find anything like this much investment in terms of the amount of places around the country right now where factories are being built. There was just a guy, I think it was the mayor, it was a city in Arizona, might have been Mesa, wrote an op-ed, almost saying exactly that. He's a Republican, and he's in a border town, 17:01 and he was saying, I'm supporting Harris because of the Investment Act of Infrastructure, because of the CHIPS Act, because of what they've tried to do. And maybe that is the key, is to get that out in those sorts of places where people might not normally hear it. Yeah, because I remember being a mayor in the industrial Midwest, and, actually, the one time that Trump fooled me, I'll admit it, something he said he would do that I believed him, was when he said he was gonna pass this big infrastructure law. I thought he would do it, because it was good politically, and why not? And, of course, he failed to do it. Joe Biden did, by the way, with a lot of involvement from Kamala Harris. And now it's something that I wish, back when I was mayor, that we had that kind of wind at our back as a city. But-- No, it's terribly hard. You know, it's funny, I went to his college. I thought for sure-- [LAUGHTER] I saw the ad, and I went to it, and it turned out I'm not a doctor. [LAUGHTER] But I'll say this, I think the really important thing to watch with him isn't the promises that he broke. Like, yeah, he broke the promise about infrastructure. 18:01 He broke the promise about 6% growth. He even broke the promise he made to that January 6th mob, when he said he was gonna be right there with them when they marched on the Capitol. - Sure. But, actually, the promises he kept are the really interesting ones, because I think they tell you what the next Trump administration, if he got one, would be like. And he really kept two. One was the promise he made to the Christian right to eliminate the right to choose. And the other was the promise he made to corporate America to cut taxes for corporations and the wealthy. 18:26 JON STEWART: Right. 18:27 Those are the promises he followed through on. 18:29 That's what he's about, hulk Hogan or not. 18:32 [LAUGHTER] I think every-- 18:34 That's great. 18:35 [APPLAUSE] Pete Buttigieg, from now on, every political conversation in this country has to end with 'Hulk Hogan or not.' [LAUGHTER] Pete Buttigieg.

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