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AIRCRAFT AIRBUS HAS MORE POPULAR PRODUCT LINE Mentour Now!: Why THIS Airplane gives Boeing NIGHTMARES! PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCnvZFkytoM Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
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Icelandair • Changes in the travel industry since ... • Behind the scenes at Icelandair: Trai... • A321LR First Flight from Hamburg • In the Making: First #A321neo to AirAsia • New Boeing CEO David Calhoun takes th... • WOW air becomes first A321neo operato... • Boeing 767-400 Promotional Video • Life as a Delta Ramp Agent Manager \| ... • Relive the A320neo’s historic first f... • 4K \| First Flight AIRBUS A321neo at A... • Our new A321neo • ANA tries Boeing 787 on for size • Introducing Philippine Airlines' new ... #Mentourpilot #pilot #aircraft Transcript 0:00 the Airbus a321 XLR recently received its certification and will soon enter service Boeing's closest equivalent is the 727 Max 10 but it really can't match the range of the XLR now Boeing has dismissed the XLR as a niche aircraft that they don't really worry about that much but is that actually true well what I'm going to show you in this video is that even if that turns out to be the 0:28 case there is another very similar 0:30 Airbus that they are much more worried 0:33 about and that's partially their own 0:36 fault stay 0:42 tuned many in the aviation industry 0:45 expected Airbus to announce the final 0:47 certification of the Airbus a321 XLR 0:50 during this year's fornb air show but as 0:53 it turns out asasa the European 0:55 regulator actually ended up granting the 0:57 new planet certification a few days 0:59 before that or July the 1:01 19th but what exactly is this aircraft 1:04 and why does boing call it a niche 1:07 jet well the 321 XLR is essentially an 1:11 Airbus a321 Neo which has been specially 1:14 adapted for Lon haul flights thank to 1:16 its extra fitted fuel tank but the 1:19 interesting thing is that all members of 1:21 the Airbus A320 family already can be 1:23 fitted with additional fuel tanks in the 1:25 cargo hold to essentially achieve the 1:27 same thing but the difference here is 1:29 that those tanks are designed to be 1:31 removable and therefore called auxiliary 1:34 Center tanks or 1:35 acts they come in the shape and size of 1:38 normal LD 345 cargo containers making 1:41 the installation and removal reasonably 1:43 quick and easy now what says the Airbus 1:45 a321 XLR apart is that its extra fuel 1:48 tank is not an act instead it's a 1:51 permanent part of the structure located 1:53 just behind the main landing gear this 1:56 new tank is called the rear center tank 1:58 or RCT and it can hold four times the 2:00 amount of fuel of an act while only 2:02 weighing as much as one of them and 2:04 crucially since it fills the fuse slush 2:06 much better this tank only takes the 2:08 space of two removable tanks in the hold 2:11 which leaves more free space for cargo 2:14 and that's worth keeping in mind 2:17 unfortunately designing and certifying 2:19 this new fuel tank and the structure 2:20 around it proved much more challenging 2:22 than Airbus had first expected that's 2:25 mainly because Airbus needed to prove 2:27 that the RCT would remain protected in 2:30 case the aircraft would have to perform 2:31 a belly landing that meant enlarging the 2:34 belly fairing by lengthening it 2:36 rearwards in order to cover the tank and 2:38 it also required strengthening this 2:40 fairing which is usually just a 2:41 non-structural aerodynamic cover for the 2:44 landing gear and other systems so 2:46 instead of getting its certification in 2:48 the second half of 2023 which Airbus had 2:51 initially expected the XLR got it just 2:54 now instead meaning a delay of just 2:56 under a year or so on top of that there 2:59 were also some worries that the added 3:01 Dragon weight from the bigger fairing 3:03 would eat into the advertised range of 3:05 the XLR which is 4,700 nautical miles 3:09 but Airbus says that the XLR will still 3:11 keep this range even after these 3:14 modifications beyond the tank itself the 3:16 XLR also has a higher gross weight and 3:18 slightly more powerful engines and on 3:20 top of that it also has modifications to 3:22 the flaps cabin layout and emergency 3:24 exits but some of those modifications 3:26 are also available for regular a321 NE 3:30 so really the XLR is all about that 3:32 bigger fuel tank so what is Boeing 3:35 thinking and doing about this new 3:37 competitor then well the quick answer is 3:40 not much as I said in the beginning 3:42 boing have so far described the XLR as a 3:44 niche product which they don't have 3:46 plans to address at on of course Boeing 3:49 is right now working to certify the 737 3:52 Max 10 the longest and likely the last 3:54 737 ever unless something really 3:56 surprising happens that is but the max 3:59 10 isn't really an answer to the XLR it 4:02 will have some additional fuel in the 4:04 fusar similar to the 900 ER but this 4:08 makes its range comparable only to the 4:10 standard Airbus 3101 Neo not to the XLR 4:14 the max 10 really only allows Bo to 4:16 compete with the Airbus in terms of seat 4:18 capacity not range and even there the 4:21 a321 Neo can handle around 10 more 4:24 passengers than the max 10 will in 4:26 reality other than their somewhat 4:29 similar passenger capacities the only 4:31 thing that the Airbus a321 XLR and the 4:33 boing 727 Max 10 have in common is that 4:35 they are both the last variants of the 4:37 respected aircraft families to get 4:39 certified so if Boeing aren't that 4:42 worried about the XLR then what Airbus 4:44 model are they worried about well in 4:48 fact I've already mentioned it it's the 4:50 humble Bas Model A 321 Neo itself that 4:54 aircraft is actually the reason why 4:56 Boeing is working so hard on the 727 Max 4:59 10 right now and it's quite easy to see 5:02 why as I've explained in previous videos 5:05 the size of aircraft used for any given 5:07 route has had a tendency to grow over 5:10 time lately and this tendency is known 5:12 as up gauging and it happens simply 5:15 because city populations tends to grow 5:17 over time and that makes bigger aircraft 5:19 served by the same crew more profitable 5:23 this has meant that before Airbus 5:24 updated the A320 family with the new 5:27 engines the standard A320 was the most 5:29 popular model in the series with the 5:31 others being the A318 the a319 and the 5:36 a321 but as a result of this gradual up 5:39 gauging when ebos introduced the A320 5:41 Neo or new engan Option the a321 Neo 5:46 quickly started outselling all of the 5:48 other variants combined this also meant 5:51 that Airbus didn't even bother 5:52 developing a Neo version of the A318 5:55 baby bus and the slightly bigger a319 5:58 Neo barely made any sales at 6:00 all and what about Boeing how have they 6:04 responded to this trend then well as we 6:06 know Boeing have gradually been 6:08 enlarging the 737 for decades now but 6:11 since it sits much lower to the ground 6:13 than the A320 family does there are 6:15 limits to how big they can really make 6:18 it the max 10 is actually longer than 6:21 boing's old 720 which was a slightly 6:23 shorter version of the 4 engine boing 6:25 707 and because of this the max 10 now 6:28 needs specially articulating landing 6:30 gear to not scrape the tail on takeoff 6:33 and 6:34 Landing but the real problems for boing 6:36 is that today the Airbus a321 Neo is 6:39 more popular than it has ever been and 6:42 with the max 10 still not certified 6:44 Boeing now have nothing to pit against 6:46 it and to add insult to injury some key 6:50 Boeing management decisions likely 6:52 directly contributed the record sales of 6:54 the Airbus a3201 Neo and its variants 6:57 that we're now seeing but before I get 7:00 into that did you know that your 7:02 personal data is right now being bought 7:04 and sold online by data Brokers yeah it 7:08 really is a thing but don't take my word 7:11 for it meet Dominic my awesome editor at 7:14 Mentor pilot a few weeks ago Dominic 7:17 found out that his personal information 7:20 was scattered across hundreds of data 7:22 Brokers websites 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than that so why is this 9:28 happening are all Airlines really up 9:30 gauging their fleets in such a way that 9:32 it's causing this 9:33 trend well it's worth remembering here 9:36 that the a321 Neo isn't just a little 9:38 bit bigger than the A320 Neo with an all 9:41 economy cabin the A320 Neo can usually 9:44 sit around 185 passengers where the a321 9:48 Neo can sit up to 9:50 240 some Airlines might be doing this 9:53 because they are making changes to the 9:54 networks that call for bigger aircraft 9:56 JetBlue for example used to have a fleet 9:58 of mostly a320s but have so far only 10:01 placed new orders for a321 Neo so no 10:05 320s at all but this might also have 10:07 something to do with their orders of the 10:09 smaller Airbus the a220 10:12 300 now as I'm sure some of you might 10:14 have already guest to understand why the 10:17 Airbus a321 Neo is getting so popular we 10:20 have to talk a bit about the much loved 10:22 Boeing aircraft the beautiful boing 10:25 757 in October this year it will be 20 10:28 years since since the last 757 roll out 10:31 of boing's production line at Ron now 10:34 boing got a lot of criticism for ending 10:36 its production but as I've explained in 10:38 a previous video they really had little 10:41 Choice the aviation slowdown following 10:43 9/11 meant that there were simply no 10:46 more orders for the 757 it was as simple 10:48 as that but the airlines that already 10:51 had 757s in their Fleet continueed to 10:53 use them and later in the 2000s as the 10:55 demand for air travel continued to 10:57 recover something weird happened you see 11:01 today when we talk about L haul flights 11:03 with single a aircraft we often mention 11:05 that the 757 with its powerful engines 11:08 and longer range was a great example of 11:12 single ale aircraft being used this way 11:14 but what some people may not realize is 11:16 that the 757 only became popular in this 11:18 role after its production had ended it 11:22 was actually the post 911 slowdown in 11:25 travel demand that caused many airlines 11:27 to start looking for smaller aircraft 11:29 for their Long Haul flights and this 11:31 didn't happen immediately after 9/11 11:34 data shows that flights of single ale 11:36 aircraft across the Atlantic for example 11:38 didn't Peak until 2012 a full eight 11:42 years after the production of the 757 11:44 had ended and that brings us back to 11:47 boing's dismissive comments about the 11:49 Airbus a321 XLR you know that long haul 11:52 flights with single ale aircraft is a 11:54 niche idea which might work for some 11:57 Airlines under some circumstances but 11:59 won't be the norm for most Airlines now 12:02 they might have a point with that 12:04 especially when you add other factors 12:06 like the extra Revenue that Airlines can 12:07 make from cargo since obviously wide 12:10 bodies have much more space for that but 12:12 all of this begs a 12:14 question if the airlines only scaled up 12:16 transatlantic flights with the 757 after 12:19 it production ended then why did these 12:21 Airlines actually buy this plane to 12:23 start with how were they using their 12:25 757s before discovering their usefulness 12:28 for Long Haul well Boeing had intended 12:31 the 757 to be able to operate in 12:33 difficult conditions like in hot and 12:35 high airports with relatively short 12:36 runways but still with plenty of 12:39 passenger capacity and range this was a 12:42 supremely versatile aircraft which was 12:46 part of its appeal especially among 12:47 Pilots because it's basically the 12:49 closest an airline that could feel to a 12:50 muscle car and boing built the 757 this 12:53 way because they had previously used 12:56 that same criteria for the 727 12:59 but in reality many airlines with 757s 13:02 didn't actually need all of that 13:04 versatility many of them simply needed 13:06 an aircraft that could carry let's say 13:08 around 200 people and they used the 757s 13:11 because that was all that was available 13:14 here I should add that the 75700 which 13:17 is by far the most popular 757 variant 13:20 carries more or less the same number of 13:22 passengers as an Airbus a321 Neo do 240 13:26 in an all economy 13:28 configuration and that meant that for 13:30 many airlines with 757s that were 20 13:33 years old or more the Airbus a321 Neo 13:36 was an obvious option as a direct 13:39 replacement the only possible problem 13:41 for some Airlines was that the range of 13:43 the a321 Neo wasn't quite as great as 13:46 the 13:47 757s maybe you see where this is going 13:50 now the Legacy ABA 321 had also been an 13:53 option for the airlines in theory except 13:55 it had an even shorter range and then 13:57 there was the question of efficiency 14:00 you see in order to work in high 14:01 altitude airports in hot summer days the 14:04 757 needed those big engines that it had 14:07 but those engines plus its beefy overall 14:10 construction made it much heavier than 14:12 an a321 Neo meaning that it was also 14:15 considerably less efficient I explained 14:18 all of this in some detail in one of my 14:20 older videos if you want to dive into 14:22 this further but the point here is that 14:24 Airbus especially with the a321 Neo gave 14:27 the airlines a great replacement to the 14:29 super versatile Boeing 14:31 757 especially when they also started 14:33 creating variations with different 14:35 ranges like the 14:37 XLR the base model a321 Neo is the one 14:40 that carries the maximum number of 14:42 people suitable for normal short and 14:44 medium whole flights and the Airbus a321 14:47 XLR is the one that covers those low 14:49 demand L haul routes with a reasonable 14:52 amount of luggage space the XLR actually 14:55 even has a slightly longer range than 14:57 the old 757 did while also burning less 15:00 fuel although the 757 still had a bit 15:02 more room for cargo Airbus also has an 15:05 intermediate option called the a321 LR 15:09 which is basically an a321 Neo with a 15:11 higher gross weight and a belly full of 15:13 those removable auxiliary fuel tanks 15:15 that I mentioned before so with the 15:18 Airbus a321 XLR in its Fleet an airline 15:21 could use a wide body for transatlantic 15:24 trips to popular destinations during 15:25 periods of High Travel demand and the 15:27 XLR for other less popular destinations 15:30 at the same time then as High season 15:33 ends and the airline can't fill their 15:35 wide bodies on that route they could 15:37 just swap in the XLR and still be 15:39 profitable in reality the situation is 15:42 of course a bit more complicated with 15:44 variations between weekdays and weekends 15:46 as well but you get the point being 15:48 flexible is one of the hardest things to 15:50 achieve in the airline world and also 15:52 one of the potentially most lucrative so 15:55 the a321 XLR could be a valuable tool to 15:59 achieve this especially for smaller 16:00 Airlines using relatively midsize or 16:03 small airports as their main hubs and 16:06 even bigger Airlines could benefit from 16:08 trip costs that are lower than those of 16:10 a widebody fleet when the bigger Jets 16:12 can't be filled on top of this the a311 16:15 Neo and the XLR obviously also share a 16:18 type rating so the pilots can fly both 16:20 and Engineers can serveice both with the 16:23 same spare part which is a great 16:25 Advantage now a small downside is that 16:27 the XLR will most likely have a cabin 16:29 layout with fewer seats better suited 16:31 for Long Haul that can't quickly be 16:33 reconfigured to a higher density layout 16:36 for short and medium hole if needed now 16:38 to be fair even if you use one aircraft 16:41 but both rolls like some Airlines did 16:43 with 757 for example you'd still have to 16:46 deal with a less than ideal cabin if you 16:48 need to swap Jets at the last minute so 16:51 in practice having a pair of similar 16:53 aircraft for different roles should be 16:55 the best choice for most Airlines but in 16:59 a perfect world The Airlines would have 17:00 an aircraft that would be purpose built 17:02 for both the range and the passenger 17:04 numbers making it a nice proper 757 17:08 replacement basically a new midsize 17:12 aircraft which is exactly what boing 17:14 planned to do when it studed what it 17:16 called the new midsize airplane or nma 17:19 back during the last decade and here is 17:22 where we get to the boring decision that 17:24 might have launched the a321 Neo into 17:27 the stratosphere 17:29 you see the planning for the anim took 17:32 place before the terrible 737 Max 17:34 crashes in 2018 and 19 and after that in 17:37 January of 2020 Dave Calhoun became the 17:41 new Boeing CEO and simply cancelled the 17:43 anma project as part of an effort to fix 17:46 Boeing spiraling Financial issues at the 17:49 time with the 737 Max still grounded and 17:52 Boeing facing loads of other problems 17:55 that decision made a lot of sense at 17:57 least in the short term 17:59 but the problem was that in November of 18:01 2022 with the 737 Max back in the skies and some sort of post-pandemic recovery on the horizon Calhoun still repeated the same thing he was adamant that Boeing's next airliner would not enter service before 20135 and that Boeing 18:15 wouldn't even begin designing it during 18:18 this decade now that statement had 18:20 far-reaching effects both for the 18:22 Airlines and for their Fleet plants at 18:25 the time many airlines still wanted to 18:27 see what boing would do next before 18:29 doing any big aircraft purchases in the 18:31 midsize category again the Airbus a321 18:35 Neo and the XLR were good options but 18:37 not necessarily ideal for everyone and 18:40 on top of that Airbus had long delivery 18:42 times for new aircraft orders so the 18:45 airlines didn't necessarily want to lock themselves into an Airbus a321 Neo Fleet if there was a chance that a newer and even better Boeing was just over the horizon Calhoun's November 2022 state M obviously changed that there was no new 19:02 shiny boing on the way and sure enough in 2023 Airbus recorded a staggering 1,300 orders for the Airbus a321 Neil now Boeing did sell some 727 Max 10s during that period but in much much lower numbers as I said before it really can't compete with the Airbus a321 neon neither range nor passenger capacity and the extra flexibility of the airb Fleet means that today Airbus has a backlog of nearly 5,000 orders for 321 NEOS 19:35 including the XLR and Boeing has just 19:37 over 1,000 orders for the max 10 oh how 19:42 different it might have been if the 19:43 anime would have stayed on the table or 19:45 at least wouldn't have been completely dismissed it's also worth remembering here that Boeing currently has a huge gap in this aircraft lineup between the 737 Max 10 and the next bigger plane the 787-8 the 757 and the 767 would have been in 20:02 between them but they're now both gone and that's while Airbus has a much smaller gap between the a321 Neo and the Airbus A3 3800 now to be fair to booring here developing an all new jet family that could replace the 737 the 757 and even the smaller end of the 767 would be a complicated and very expensive task to pull off figuring out how to size an 20:28 aircraft family to fulfill so many roles 20:31 would be a nightmare and will most 20:33 likely require a pair of aircraft 20:35 designs similar to how boing developed 20:37 the 757 and the 767 back in the 20:40 1980s and another big complication here 20:43 that I haven't even mentioned yet is the 20:46 engines there is currently no modern 20:48 engine option for an aircraft the size 20:50 of a 757 but CFM Pratt and Whitney and even Rolls Royce are currently working on newer engines that could enter service in the coming years and would potentially fit now of course there are 21:03 loads of more issues to discuss here that could influence future Airline Fleet decisions like whether or not the airlines will continue to up gauge their fleets and by how much different manufacturers and analysts make different projections based on things like limited airport slots in busy airports that could potentially favor even bigger planes in general kind of 21:23 like how the original reasoning went 21:25 behind the Airbus A380 but as we learn 21:29 from that it's very hard to plan for 21:31 travel demandan patterns that far into 21:33 the future this is all discussions for 21:36 another video but the point that I want 21:37 to make here is that Airbus didn't 21:39 outsmart boing with the a321 Neo or the XLR instead boing essentially quit the midsize aircraft Market if they would have continued with the anime it's likely that this new design with new engines and lightweight materials would have outclassed the a321 Neo and that would have therefore forced Airbus to 22:00 develop something completely new on its own also can you believe it's been 20 years since the last new 757 roll off the production line in my view that's way too long for Boeing to have effectively abandoned this segment of the market but what do you think does Boeing today have the means to reignite its engineering Glory Days and give Airbus a run for their money let me know in the comments below or in our next Zoom hangout if you are part of my Pat Pon crew now consider supporting me by supporting my sponsor using the links here below where you can also find some cool merch and other really cool stuff have an absolutely fantastic day wherever you are and I'll see you next time bye-bye

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