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PEOPLE AN ELON MUSK DISASTER The Bulwark: Elon Musk BLOWS Big Trump Interview! Trump Can't Form Coherent Sentence! \| Bulwark Reacts PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJLfN6sf60 Peter Burgess COMMENTARY I enjoyed this. It is about Elon Musk and Trump and a complete fail of both of them. It is fun ... not full of much 'substance' but nevertheless something of a 'joy'. Peter Burgess
Elon Musk BLOWS Big Trump Interview! Trump Can't Form Coherent Sentence! \| Bulwark Reacts The Bulwark Aug 12, 2024 473K subscribers ... 984,148 views ... 40K likes Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and Marc Caputo recap Donald Trump's ranting conversation with sleepy, uninterested Elon Musk. Read More from Marc Caputo in the Bulwark: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-old-... 🔥 Get 30 days of Bulwark+ absolutely free: https://thebulwark.com/freetrial Transcript 0:00 hey there it's Tim Miller from the bull workk I'm here with Sam Stein and Mark caputa who just reminded us that life is suffering and life was suffering for all of us who tried to get into the Elon Musk Donald Trump Twitter tonight and for all of us who made it long enough to have to listen to it uh Sam Mark uh maybe Sam let's start with you what uh what why don't you give us some initial thoughts about maybe let's discuss the pregame first then we can discuss the actual game why did you C Ariz it as suffering I enjoyed the uh 40 minutes where I just stared at a computer screen and refreshed it and then the 10 minutes where I got to listen to some weird techno elevator music Vibe before some weird voice in the distance kind of whispered to me and then it started Mark shouldn't they have figured this out by now I mean the Trump people you deal with them like they watched the I believe it was Trump that tweeted about Ron desantis's Failure to Launch on Twitter why why do you think they didn't learn anything from that I mean surely 1:03 they thought Elon wouldn't [ __ ] up twice in a row he runs a rocket ship company right which I think I think I said on Twitter like NASA should probably double check with SpaceX like gut check that that equipment like I don't know how it happens I'm not a tech guy and while I I don't have the ability to instantly tell if someone is lying I'm skeptical but for real how how did that happen for real how did that happen how did that happen like this is crazy I mean he wants to plant a neuralink in our head dude wants to a neuralink in our head then they they they build up the biggest interview this big deal Trump and musk GNA be the most ever elon's posting yesterday about how they've been doing some test runs to make sure it's all going to work and just a total nothing nothing just I think he got infected with the woke M virus and KLA Harris secretly controls him too many too many Dei haris no it's like you had one job 2:01 like and they knew that this was this was like this was obviously the one thing you could not afford to do because it happened before it's it's an audio blog also this is not top technology I'm not a technologist no you know not to just shout out our pay masters here at YouTube but you could just you could just do a YouTube live stream you could just do it's live it just happens didn't CBO Harris just have a bunch of like well populated Zoom calls like what the hell is this the only technology that doesn't work it's unbelievable you could have it with someone who's interesting this is where I'm for I would figure Elon Musk would be interesting in this and I remember when he had DeSantis on once they finally got the thing working they were talking about the Chevron difference which I mean yeah sure it's important in all of that I understand but it's just dull as dishwater and this can we talk you know can we talk about the the the sort of the tweets uh that preceded the the uh sure the actual conversation cuz those were funny I enjoyed those 3:00 I had I I particularly like the the bill Amman one uh where he was just like he like added real Donald Trump he's like hey at real Donald Trump please let Elon know we can't join as if Trump is just sort of like hanging out like scrolling like he's the door man like he's the [ __ ] bouncer you Bill wants in like what's going on like that's real detached from reality stuff right there like you could just tag your buddy Trump on Twitter and your stuff will get solved you know I would I would feel that that's detach reality except for the fact that Elon does seem to do personal service for like cat turd not the moment 420 replying to him just like Elon could you please fix the fact that I've been throttled like he does seem to do individual service for random [ __ ] posters okay so we get in let's go back to it maros we get in and the actual interview starts and again like you would think that at least Elon like would have like 4:01 interesting thoughts right or or like want to take Donald Trump to talk about something that's a little bit offbeat you know one of his weird interests about space or you know Sci-Fi movies or cars or something but it was it's nothing he's a horrible conversationalist his questions go on forever he and it was just like you know two guys at a bar talking about will you tell me the one time that you did something great and then they talk for 20 minutes minutes and there was nothing yeah Mark what did they want to get out of it did they think that there was a was there a news Peg do we think I mean it was the same thing with the press conference before is there's two things to look at there's the substance and then there is the media is the message here I am Donald Trump I'm out here I'm doing new stuff and I'm taking questions and K Harris isn't but as far as the Trump team now don't get me wrong they would be thrilled no matter what happens right they would say they're thrilled but but he is able to talk about 5:01 immigration the terms he wants so they're happy with that but I mean the reality is is I can't think of one person who listen to this uh who didn't have their mind made up I'm not sure who whom it persuaded I can tell you I get I have some breaking news on that for you mark you might want to take this to the campaign you you've been reporting smartly along with others on how they're trying to reach out to the kind of like bro influencer crowd they think that there the under 50 men types uh well one of the famous the famous bro streamers who I follow uh is a homophobic douche named sneo that has 863 th000 followers I was watching his live stream of trump and he was devastated to learn that Trump was for Israel so sneo not exactly cut you know sneo not exactly splitting the atom over there if he hasn't quite figured out yet that Trump is for Israel but actually I think that you're wrong that it didn't change anybody's mind because at least it had one negative 6:00 impact on the anti-sites what the [ __ ] I thought he was with us yeah the Bro anti-semites thought he was with them and it turns out that that was maybe a negative backlash on that I don't know s you what did you think the 20 minutes on the ear I I feel for sneo um that's a tough breaker tonight when your Heroes let you down you know yeah you do have to have some empathy for that I I I I kind of really you know I'm not trying to say that like this is some great talent that people in this industry possess but like interviewers interviewing people is a talent having conversations and um and uh and trying to elicit information from them and make it interesting and entertaining is something that people do actually work on and you know like I can't build a rocket like I'm not pretending I can build a rocket and I certainly can't run X although maybe I could run Twitter spaces just about as well but like he C this was not a great you know if the Trump campaign wanted to have a sort of humanizing conversation um this was 7:02 probably not the right place to do it if they wanted to just grab eyeballs and and do something that's like high publicity sure just fine this works I will say though it's like at the most you have like what 1.2 million people watching would there be more eyeballs on Hannity and then just the replays of Han Trump Trump trump has sorry Fox News has like you know three times that prime time so it's like I'm not the the and I think you you know the Allure of it the fact that it's happening that was interesting the first time when they did it with Dan santis somewhat interesting now because Trump's coming back to the platform but it just felt like this was you know it didn't really move the needle uh and I'm not sure really what would at this point honestly um from a media perspective for Trump like he's done it all and he's just going to do what he's what he's gonna do I thought like in in terms of substantive stuff like there just was not much that I I gathered from I mean 20 25 minutes rehashing the assassination attempt is is a lot I mean hey it was a key moment in his life I get it I get it look hey he was not running for president again 8:02 and um he's a te Toler but if he's just he's just a guy smoking cigars at maralago after around 18 and he wanted to rehash His Glory Days and tell stories about the failed assassination attempt and like regil you know some super fans awesome like that's fine that would be his right but he's running for president and I don't I don't know what how much that is advancing the ball I don't know still I mean this is you know musk began the interview saying I'm not going to be aders okay fine it's going to be a conversation so I can get a five fine how about ask him do you ever suspect someone in the Secret Service like really let you down on purpose that would have been interesting all right there you go I'd like to know that if someone shot at me and there was an entire agency that was supposed to protect me and left an entire roof open for a sniper who who had been spotted walking around with sniper equipment I I would think like wow do 9:00 some of these people are supposed to protect me want me dead I'm not saying they do but I would ask the person that question I love Caputo rather thano is like if you're not going to advance a message all right at least do some like conspiracy mongering to keep me engaged I just want to feel something I just want to feel something over here I'll just say I'll just say something I thought I did have some hopes heading into this cuz often it's like the the easy interviews that trip Trump up right like the people who are just like asking him like weird conspiracy oriented stuff and he's like yeah but that didn't even happen here like he just and and you could tell like Elon was kind of struggling because after like 10 to 15 straight minutes of trump just kind of going over the story and he's just kept like yeah yeah sure sure yeah he just couldn't figure out when to interject Trump wasn't picking up the social cues on an interviewer goes yeah yeah yeah like we need the Little John in there like yeah yeah um what 10:00 what see Sam I'm disappointed in you I have to tell you we're 10 minutes into this and you've not commented on on the Trump Sylvester the cat speaking Style with all of that being said to me that's so important the most important but with all of that being said the election's coming up and the people want to hear about the economy and the fact that they can't buy groceries and I think that was like the only interesting thing that was happening like was it was it a failure of spaces and the sound was it was it were his Dentures loose like those are that's the only interesting question I think so I think I think you need to set because people need to understand he how would you describe this he was he was talking like this sound like he was talking like this he couldn't say any SES again I don't and it's possible I want to put this on Elon I don't I you know people people be like call Mark out I'm like he's got TDS I'm like I have TDS but it might not have been trump it could have just been the spaces you know the way that they form out he had just gone to the dentist and there's still a 11:01 lot of fluid in there and they haven't done thing to drain it yeah it the next Republican the next Republican who is approached by Elon Musk to do anything should say no yeah that's the thing at this point like I can't imagine anyone except like who's desperate need of some publicity would do this because you're handing over your entire performance to some non-tested technology and people who don't do interviews and then on top of that it's all audio and it's not Visual and I don't know it's just it's a weird choice I also think Elan might have been doing some light ketamine like there's his pacing was pretty in a khole he wasn't in a khole but I just think you know micro doing I or is really tired I don't know again I'm tired it's extremely non-engaging we would have if you're were micro doing we would have some good conspiracy questions yeah that's a good point and I'm just me Mark be are there any I'm 12:02 kind of curious are there any other like ones that you would have thrown out there if you could have been Elon tonight it had to but also not like the mark kaputo questions who I have a chance to talk to Trump but Mar kaputo playing Elon like what would you have asked oh I I would know how to do that man I mean I'm just I would be genuinely interested and maybe this is boring on like you tell me about the assassination of Sol a money like you know tell me what it's like to like actively push a button on a guy so you can kill him right you know tell me about there's stories out there that I mean he kind of told a story about him threatening Putin but I'd like more about that like his interactions with Mark what's Mark what's the one qu everyone has this but what's the one question if you got one question for Trump what's the one question now you're putting me on the spot here uh I have mine what's yours why don't you tell yours let Mark think about it I would said I would say Mr Trump as far as you know what is the 13:02 meaning of life and I just want I want to hear him just sort of ruminate he would say to crush your enemies to see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of the Trump sir what is the meaning of that uh I mean this would be pegged in my most recent reporting but you know you posted the other day about these leakers who are who are out kind of out to damage you like who are the leakers around you that's the one question come on I'm I'm I'm very much I'm very much detail and daily oriented okay I would I would have aimed High I'm definitely asking about Epstein um okay Caputo uh we you did you mentioned the story let's just cover that because it's related to this before we leave good story um it was about the let's not call it a reset reset there's some thoughts in Mar lagio that maybe things haven't been going exactly how they would they would like the last three weeks maybe they wouldn't say it like that but that you know they want to try some new messaging strategies um uh and uh yeah um this was one of those 14:02 venues I take it maybe didn't go as they would hoped what what else what else do they have in their deck of cards down there they won't cop to this but more people more broadly in Trump World will when Donald Trump is getting up and speaking for 90 minutes at rallies he's talking about everything and therefore he's talking about nothing yes and the only stuff that gets covered because the media won't pick it up for its length and there other problematic things like he says Fantastical things he says nonsensical things some of it's incoherent some of it are lies they're kind of like a net Negative they don't really do anything for the campaign and they drain its coffers so there's this idea of like maybe we can get Donald Trump a little more on message to talk about specific issues that he is winning on for instance the economy so on Wednesday they're going to be doing that um they're also even though give me a little more colors on Wednesday they're they're going to have an event with a crowd they're going to have an event in Asheville North Carolina it's supposed to be about the economy okay so the question is since 15:00 this is not really a rally it's more of kind of a mini rally as someone are referring to it the question is is can Donald Trump sort of stay more on message and deliver a message that is going to help his campaign instead of just getting up and freewheeling you know for 90 minutes or an hour and 40 minutes the way he just did Saturday in Boseman Montana uh there is a I just want to stop here for a second let's stop an hour I just cuz I can't emphasize it an hour and 40 minutes C Greatful Dead it's like a Grateful Dead of speeches he also I love he also my favorite aside from the Boseman speech CU he's like you listen to these com speeches she just says the same thing she like you know I got to give you guys some new material it's like a jam band that's got to play a deep cover every every set to you know keep the guys on asset engaged this I I had a so Tim did this podcast but um when I when I host a podcast can confessional I talked to Howard Dean about when he knew he was going to lose yeah uh and he was like it was when my just kept attracting the 16:00 same crowds and everyone thought I had become the Grateful Dead like they'd all come and like they knew the like the spots when I would regall them with some stuff and I knew what made them go nuts and like I feel like Trump's like that like he can't he needs to tell these like crazy side side stories and stem winders because he needs that adoration from the crowd and they love certain things that he says and that's and that's why he goes in our in 40 minutes because he's just going on tangents that he knows they're going to pick up in love well what but the you saying the Grateful Dead made me think that one one of the advisers I talked to said that it's like he views these these people as like these are his people and he owes them a show the front and uh you know that but part of that is what gets him in trouble that that sort of Jackel and Hyde convention speech he gave was a great example of that he spoke for 19 minutes and then you could just see this this switch flip where he's just like [ __ ] it now now I'm going to give the crowd What It Wants right Master he he told 17:00 he had told a person like afterward who asked him like Hey kind of what happened and he said well I said the things they wanted me to say and then I said the things that I wanted to say and so the things they wanted him to say the campaign was like 19 minutes and the rest of the 92 minutes speech was you know Donald Trump unplugged so Mark is that why he went came back to uh Twitter and X today is is he feels like people need to he needs to reach these people in a way that he thinks they want to be reached Donald Trump just feels the need to sort of control his campaign more and get his message out more so the other day when they decided to have this press conference they weren't going to have that press conference his campaign had said okay look let's you know we're getting hammered in the media things are looking bad let's have an invite only Elite media and conservative media crew and we'll give the campaign's perspective on polling and all the stuff with senior campaign advisers and then Trump himself was like well we're going to have all this press here why not have a press conference right right and the reason he did it is because he wanted a talk and get his message out there and 18:02 you know and I I know some people are going to crush me for saying this but substance aside you know other than that how was the play Mrs Lincoln is the fact that the play was being held at all again the fact that he was up there and the media was the message and he was talking they still feel even though NPR found that what is it 162 lies and distortions he made that the press conference was still a net win because people were talking about him and they will View what we're doing right now and that Twitter space as boring as it was like as a as a win for them that is how they perceive it I could see that Trump I'm questioning whether that's true about they you never know it's one of the problems with talking with Trump World people is that like are they telling you the truth um but uh because sometimes yes sometimes no right and um Trump himself though I could see that right like he he's resentful of all the attention KLA is getting and and thinks that he can take the spotlight back from her well I don't know is she getting it 19:00 or is it AI that's a good question that would be another legit question to ask like I would like to I would like to do an eight question followup on it so like how do you think that the AI thing worked exactly and like like let's deep into the like the pl you mentioned the plain reflection and how it was missing like talk to me about the mirroring effect and what you think was happening there um all right guys well um it wasn't the fireworks we were hoping for no no no just the spaces is still going on want you to know yeah according to Edgar it's still going I I don't think that anybody needed to suffer through more than what we did uh if anything interesting happens in the rest of that space I'll hit you all up uh with a breakdown tomorrow and make sure you subscribe to the feed that's Mark Caputo and Sam Stein low energy Sam Stein tonight oh but me and Mark carried him and uh we'll see you we'll see you guys soon

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