HUGE: Democrats defy history with unexpected SURPRISE
Brian Tyler Cohen
3.06M subscribers
Aug 12, 2024
No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen
No Lie podcast episode 224: Democrats are finally, actually winning the messaging war.
LISTEN TO FULL PODCAST EPISODE HERE:
- Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3YYXcIP
- Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3YHXS5a
- Order my new book SHAMELESS: https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/s...
Sources:
- https://x.com/Acyn/status/18158223099...
- https://x.com/ChristianVitek/status/1...
- https://x.com/WeFightWeWin24/status/1...
- https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/10/us...
Subscribe for more and follow me here:
- YouTube (español): / @briantylercohenespanol
- Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/36UvEHs
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0066rKC...
- Twitter: / briantylercohen
- Instagram: / briantylercohen
- Facebook: / briantylercohen
- Patreon: / briantylercohen
- Newsletter: https://www.briantylercohen.com/sign-up/
- TikTok: / briantylercohen
Transcript
- 0:00
- today we're going to talk about
- Democrats finally actually winning the
- messaging war and I interview Pete Budaj
- jedge about JD Vance's attacks on Tim
- walls' military service Trump's
- disastrous comments on KLA Harris's race
- and he compares the joy of the Harris
- campaign to the Doom and Gloom of the
- Trump campaign and I'm joined by
- historian and star substack writer
- Heather Cox Richardson to discuss the
- dangers of Trump's agenda and how
- history shows us how that agenda will
- lead us into autocracy I'm Brian Tyler
- Cohen and you're watching no
- [Music]
- lie let's be clear for my entire career
- in political media Democrats have not
- only been losing the messaging War but
- have been complaining about losing the
- messaging War when you look back at the
- days of Obamacare for example while
- Democrats were trying to explain the
- individual mandate and the implications
- of the ACA and Medicare Part D you know
- what Republicans were doing they were
- claiming that it would lead to death
- panels that's it death panels and you
- 0:53
- know what it was their narrative that
- 0:54
- stuck short pithy impactful the next
- 0:57
- elections after that would lead to
- 0:59
- perhap the most devastating results in
- 1:01
- living memory for Democrats by the time
- Obama left office Democrats went from
- controlling 27 state legislatures to
- only 13 we lost 13 governorships and
- 8816 State Legislative seats it was the
- biggest loss in power since Eisenhower
- cut two the Trump era we're still
- getting killed at least for Trump's
- audience his message is concise it's
- catchy it's compelling build the wall
- lock her up drain the swamp make America
- great again all the while we're still
- complaining about our inability to
- message Biden comes along he wins in
- 2020 uh very much on the back of
- anti-trump sentiment but in 2024 he
- again can't prosecute the case against
- Trump even in the face of such
- aggressively dismal policies by Donald
- Trump The Narrative is so bad that the
- only thing the media can focus on is
- Biden's age our message clearly isn't
- breaking through and then kamla Harris
- and Tim Walls enter the scene they're
- both articulate inspiring public
- speakers who connect with normal people
- because they communicate like normal
- 2:01
- people and suddenly it's the Democrats
- who seemingly overnight learned how to
- capture an audience with clear
- catchphrases that Electrify tens of
- thousands of people catchphrases like
- we're not going back but we are not
- going
- back we are not going
- back we not going back we're not going
- back we are not going back
- like when we fight we win and when we
- fight we win God bless you and God bless
- the United States of
- America and even this one that only Tim
- Walls can deliver in Minnesota we
- respect our neighbors and their personal
- choices that they
- make even if we wouldn't make the same
- choice for ourselves there's a golden
- 3:01
- rule mind your own damn
- business and in fact one of the most
- potent tools against Republicans is
- actually the simplest one one that was
- debuted by Tim Walls himself which is
- that Republicans are just weird and
- despite its Simplicity it does seem to
- be the one that's getting under the skin
- of these Republicans the most probably
- because as they say a hit dog will
- holler that attack has such legs that
- according to the New York Times at an
- August 2nd fundraiser for Trump when a
- donor asked Trump about Democrats trying
- to paint the Republican ticket as weird
- Donald Trump replied not about me
- they're saying that about JD dude didn't
- even deny it he just deflected and then
- threw his own running mate under the bus
- so that we're clear that is not what you
- do when the attack doesn't have legs
- meanwhile Trump's best retort to the
- messaging Juggernaut on the left well
- he's claiming that Tim Wals is going
- to unleash hell on Earth Tim Wals the
- 4:02
- high school social studies teacher the
- guy who's best known for signing a bill
- into law that would guarantee breakfast
- and lunch for school children regardless
- of income status right um good luck with
- that one the fact is that our tent is
- growing welcoming many of the
- constituencies who Donald Trump himself
- needs young people rural Americans
- teachers union workers blue collar
- workers military members Republicans who
- have chosen to prioritize our democracy
- no fake outs or recycled lies about
- about audience sizes or feigned Big Boy
- confidence is going to change that
- granted that doesn't mean we can sit
- back and exhale we still have less than
- three months and everybody needs to do
- their part the next three months will be
- impossible to forecast although I guess
- it's safe to say it's probably going to
- be kind of weird but none of that should
- distract us from the potential of
- electing kamla Harris and Tim wals who
- are fearless bully Fighters happy
- Warriors and effectively the living
- embodiment of the promise of America so
- our job is to make sure we get to work
- 5:01
- because when we fight well you know
- couple quick notes this is finally the
- week my book Shameless is officially out
- for sale if you enjoy this show please
- show your support by ordering a copy
- this week which is really my shot at
- hitting the New York Times bestseller
- list as you know I don't do sponsorships
- or PID ads I never put my content behind
- a pay wall I never will on this channel
- but this is the one time that I'll ask
- you for something back and that's to
- grab a copy of Shameless if you can you
- can click the link in the post
- description or go to briantyler
- cohen.com book or click the link right
- here on the screen also if you live in
- DC and you want to see me live with Jens
- saki in just a few days on August 14th
- or if you live in LA and you want to see
- me live with John favro on August 26th
- there are still a few tickets left to
- both of those events which you can find
- at the same link briantyler cohen.com
- book or in the post description of this
- video thank you so much everybody okay
- here are previews of my interviews with
- Pete budajudge and Heather Cox
- Richardson what was your reaction action
- to Vance qualifying the value of waltz's
- 6:02
- 24-year military service to this country
- yeah this is just not something that
- service members ordinarily do uh toward
- other service members uh there's some
- notable exceptions including the
- disgraceful Swift booat attacks against
- John Kerry which were not going to allow
- to happen again especially because Tim
- wall served honorably he served for 24
- years in the military you can retire at
- 20 years Tim Walls served for 2 which
- I'm pretty sure is longer that JD Vance
- had been alive when he finished his tour
- none of us are saying bad things about
- JD Vance's Service uh we're we're
- talking about uh a campaign that not
- only is building up our candidates uh
- and why we believe in in K Harris and
- Tim Walls but most importantly talking
- about what this campaign means for
- people in their lives and I think that's
- the other really interesting an
- important thing to talk about uh it's
- not just that Tim wall served and by all
- accounts was a very good soldier and
- 7:00
- non-commissioned officer is that after
- that he went on to lead the Veterans
- Affairs Committee in the house and make
- veterans better off on things like
- mental health and suicide prevention so
- uh it's it's just it's it's unsurprising
- and yet still somehow disappointing that
- the only thing they can think to do is
- uh is to go after his service but maybe
- the upshot of it is it's going to remind
- everybody uh and educate everybody about
- the fact that Tim Walls is a veteran who
- served 24 years in the mil
- it also seems to have escaped JD Vance
- that his own running mate did the thing
- that Vance is wrongly accusing Tim WS of
- doing which is evading his service so do
- you think that maybe JD Vance forgot
- that Donald Trump very famously found
- some podiatrist somewhere to say that he
- had bone bone spurs to ensure that he
- wouldn't serve a single day in the
- military yeah the contrast couldn't be
- clear uh look uh you know both Tim Walls
- and JD Vance uh came from ordinary
- beginnings and served in the military uh
- Donald Trump on the other hand uh used
- 8:00
- his status as a
- multi-millionaire from the day he was
- born to be able to it would appear uh
- purchase a doctor's note that allowed
- him to fake a disability so that he
- could claim to be unable to go serve and
- I imagine some uh middle class or
- working class kid went in his place who
- wasn't Rich enough to pull those kinds
- of strengths um that's exactly uh the
- point they they they don't want to talk
- about that they definitely don't want to
- talk about their ideas uh for America or
- Americans so they do what they always do
- which is just to tear tear down tear up
- and uh and do whatever is most
- outrageous any given day so that they
- don't have to defend things like what
- their policies would mean for veterans
- which I think would be a lot of uh a lot
- of cuts to services and more generally
- their deeply unpopular policies like tax
- cuts for the rich and uh and continuing
- to uh destroy a woman's right to choose
- Donald Trump's plan if he wins the
- election is to consolidate power into
- the executive branch in my opinion the
- 9:01
- most chilling part of project 2025 for
- example is the reclassification of
- career civil servants in our
- government's Workforce into political
- appointees and that would effectively
- turn the entire government the IRS the
- FBI the doj the FCC into a tool of
- Trump's political interests so this may
- all feel new for us but I'm curious as
- to whether there is precedent in history
- where for example leaders engaged in
- similar tactics and what happen to that
- system of government in those instances
- so for example did those countries then
- descend into autocracy well there are
- comparisons in other countries for sure
- project 2025 which is the project that's
- been embraced by the Trump admin uh by
- the the Trump Vance
- campaign uh deliberately Builds on what
- Victor Orban has done in Hungary where
- he took a democracy and he overturned it
- by concentrating power in his own hands
- now one of the things about project 2025
- is that it talks about civil servants
- and turning them into loyalists for
- 10:00
- trump it also talks about taking over
- the Department of Justice and ceasing to
- honor the rule of law and instead having
- people in the Department of Justice who
- do what Trump wants them to it also
- talks about the military so the idea is
- to concentrate all of those positions of
- power in our society in the hands of one
- person now if you look at Hungary modern
- Hungary under Victor orbon he did
- something very similar with the idea
- quite explicitly of destroying democracy
- and creating what he called illiberal
- democracy or Christian democracy a world
- in which a few usually white
- heteronormative men controlled the lives
- of women racial and ethnic minorities
- and gender minorities in order to return
- what they considered a traditional
- worldview to their country now this has
- really never happened in the United
- States before and one of the things that
- I think is important when you think
- about project 2025 is to think of it in
- tandem with the July 1 2024 Supreme
- 11:00
- Court decision in Donald J Trump versus
- United States in which today's radical
- Supreme Court overturned the very rule
- of law in the United States of America
- to say that one man is above the rule of
- law and that's the president of the
- United States who who it said cannot be
- indicted or prosecuted for crimes
- committed as part of his official duties
- now we've never had this in the United
- States before but we have had something
- really similar that may surprise people
- and that's that if you think about what
- happened in the American South from
- about 1874 to about
- 1965 we had a one-party region that
- essentially had overturned democracy and
- was ruled by a very small group of
- people and in that American South
- essentially the states and the state
- legislator decided how people would live
- within those States they passed their
- laws that discriminated against people
- of color black Americans and certainly
- discriminated against women and at the
- same time time the way that that played
- 12:00
- out on the ground was that Capital fled
- the region because there was no point in
- trying to invest in a factory for
- example in the American South if who you
- knew was how would determine how well
- that factory would do and similarly even
- white Americans who theoretically would
- be privileged by this system uh their
- lives too depended on who they knew and
- so well we haven't seen the attempt at a
- national level to concentrate power in
- one single person in the United States
- we have seen how the idea of a onep
- party system plays out and it played out
- in the American South in a way that
- really destroyed the economy and
- destroyed equality to see the full
- interviews with PE bua jedge and Heather
- Cox Richardson click the thumbnails
- right here on the screen or check out
- the interviews playlist on my YouTube
- channel you can also click the link on
- the screen for the audio version of this
- episode and of course to see more of my
- content the Subscribe button on the
- screen as well
- [Music]
| |