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- meet you and welcome to inside politics Sunday I'm Pamela Brown and for Manu Raju vice president kamla Harris
- continues to gain momentum and her bid for the White House with election day just 86 days away and the Democratic
- National Convention just right around the corner new polling out this weekend shows Harris is gaining with likely
- voters in the must-win Battleground states of Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin but the matchup is still close
- with no clear leader in any of these states and while there are undoubtedly still difficulties ahead for Harris the
- campaign is certainly hoping to get an even bigger boost in those blue wall States from Harris's newly minted
- Midwestern running mate Minnesota Governor Tim Walls made his debut on the trail with Harris this week as they
- barnstormed seven Battleground States making their pitch to voters while also trying to draw a clear contrast to Trump
- and JD Vance here's a glimpse of what they said at their final stop in Las Vegas last night
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- someone who suggests we should terminate the
- Constitution of the United States should never again stand behind
- the Seal of President of the United States in this campaign I will proudly
- put my record against his every day of the week again and again and again Donald Trump made decisions to weaken
- this country to strengthen his own hand if this guy gets an opportunity again he
- won't only pick up where he left off it will be much worse than it was last
- time and meanwhile as his campaign deals with a major hack Donald Trump return to the trail Friday for the first time
- since Harris formalized the Democratic ticket he campaigned in Montana to try and boost the GOP candidate in a
- competitive Senate race but he didn't waste any time lobbing attacks at Harrison walls as he tries to figure out
- the best way to attack and Define their ticket we have a lot to unpack this morning let's break this all down with
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- cleave Woodson uh from The Washington Post Susan Glasser with the New Yorker sores David Wile and Jasmine Wright with
- notice thank you all for being here Jasmine I want to start with you uh the Harris Waltz Battleground Blitz it's
- done I mean this is their first week right they they Traverse the country going to these key States how does the
- campaign think the ret is going so far I think they're actually pretty bullish about it given all that that's happened
- since Walt's joined the ticket they've raised you know more than $40 million um
- from a lot of Grassroots donors some of them firsttime donors I think that they feel like the reception is going well
- they feel that the attacks um they could at least foresee some of them particularly maybe on his military record and other things coming from
- Republicans so they feel bullish about it they feel like they're in a good place and I think that they're getting a lot of confidence from these major
- rallies that they're having across the country Las Vegas I think there was 12,000 they I saw reports that they had
- to closed the door there are 4,000 more people out in line because of the heat um Michigan we were just talking about
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- it uh 12 to 15,000 so I think they feel they're coming into this new week really confident and of course we're going to
- see her in San Francisco at least we're going to see reports of her in San Francisco at another high dollar
- fundraiser yeah the crowd size is something that Donald Trump has taken note of for sure uh Susan there is this
- question though you know Jasmine just laid out um you know this momentum that the Harris wals tickets is seen but you
- have to ask are they still in the honeymoon phase or is there a real shift in how voters are seeing we are seeing
- the numbers of rise for Harris when you look at the latest polls this weekend yeah that's right after a race remember
- that was stuck for so long you know we were talking about things like Doom Loop and the immovable American electorate
- when it was looked like it was a Biden Trump rematch for really the last couple years and so this is dramatic movement
- in the context of an electorate that's very uh solidified and polarized I think
- it it represents a real change but the question I'm looking for and we'll see coming out of the democratic convention
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- later this month are we returning to what we expected all along which is essentially a dead even race this is
- largely Democratic voters and Democratic leaning independent who have returned to the Democratic ticket they were
- unenthusiastic about Joe Biden so what what we're looking to see I think is whether she gets out in front and builds
- a discernable lead as opposed to something that is within the margin of error I think that's a possibility for
- her but so far I would say what's happened is that you've seen Democrats come back and not only return to the
- Democratic ticket but to express real enthusiasm that wasn't there before so it's changed what's possible in the map
- and also this week you saw the expansion again of the map not just those three key states in the midwest but also
- Arizona Nevada and Georgia back in play which for Biden I think had become Out
- Of Reach I think that's a really important Point uh that the last two stops of the Battleground buets were in
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- Arizona Nevada and you have the cook political report saying that these are now toss-up States right instead of
- Leaning Republican states what is she doing right now that is working that is now making those States more in play
- well I think some of it is just simply the momentum you know Democrats have asked for a new candidate and they got a new candidate and as she goes out into
- these other states um they you know people are showing up people are um you know they're excited about walls they're
- excited about Harris I think one of the things that I've talked with Harris people over the last couple of days
- about is how long will this momentum last you know they're excited um they're
- very proud of the the last three weeks but like can they keep it going past the convention and for the next 80 some days
- yeah and it's worth noting right you have the momentum right now but she hasn't sat down for a formal interview though she said that she told her AIDs
- that she wants to by the end of the week um or the month I should say um maybe by the end of this week I don't
- know we'll see maybe it will be but uh but you have that you have you know she
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- hasn't really rolled out significant views on her policy although she said her Economic Policy um platform will be
- coming out and you know the race isn't necessarily going to be smooth sailing for her ahead as we wait for these issues but when it comes to immigration
- it's interesting that she's really taking that head on she's going on on the offensive right um let's look at
- this ad when she talks about that and the economy da mhm kamla Harris has spent decades
- fighting violent crime as a border State prosecutor she took on drug cartels and
- jailed gang members for smuggling weapons and drugs across the border fixing the border is tough so is kamla
- Harris we know our immigration system is broken and we know what it takes to fix
- it comprehensive reform that
- includes strong border security and an earned Pathway to citizenship
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- what do you think about that approach well she's executing a pivot that the Biden Administration made more than six
- months ago at the State of the Union and that ad that speech is a good example of what she has benefited from by being the
- nominee without a contested primary I think the primary elector of Democrats put together in 2024 was going to be
- different than 2019 but what you said on that stage what you said in that ad that would have gotten you heckled in a room in Iowa in 2019 all of the the positions
- that Democrats moved left on she has been able in this campaign to reposition herself and to the frustration of
- Republicans what I've heard is that she's doing this without that many without any interviews with a few tarmac questions so she has abandoned the most
- Progressive unpopular positions that she had not all Progressive positions are popular but you know not not considering
- crossing the border of crime for example she abandoned that in a statement to reporter she has not been asked about it that's what Republicans are getting a
- little frustrated by is that how much can she adjust and make old news make it so that we wouldn't necessarily ask her
- for a new immigration position by the time she sits down because that's one less conflict that's one less question
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- for her to to perhaps trip over that's one more thing she navigated without all the the turmoil that Trump did except a
- little bit like Trump skipping debates this time he was able to skip accountability in that in that way she's been able to skip left-wing
- accountability by being the nominee right now yeah yeah it's probably important to note also that she's just
- she she knows this attack is coming right they've labeled her Biden's borders are from since the third month
- of her vice presidency um you know voters to it Republicans have tried to tie it to her you know and during this
- honeymoon phase or sugar high phase she's trying very much to sort of go on offense and change the narrative before
- those attacks come because they're already coming I think also on the economy I mean we saw her uh roll out
- that she would eliminate taxes on tipped work or tipped wages yesterday people were like I'm surprised by that I don't
- really know why I mean it's something that that Trump had proposed it's something that Trump right so now he's saying that she's following him but I
- don't really know why that would be surprising to people in 2019 she rolled out multiple policies like this her
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- first major policy was a $133,000 raise on teachers on their wages that would
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- you know accumulate billions of dollars but it was still something that she put a lot of weight behind she also proposed
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- a $6,000 wage I mean $6,000 tax credit for working family so this is something
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- that's very much so in her Arena so yes she is shifting a bit on those 2019
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- policies more so on immigration than all others but these are also very much so in her kind of care economy Bank of of
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- of ideas that she has been very adamant about since entering National politics in 2019 yeah it's interesting I want to
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- follow up with you because talking about you know the Harris campaign ready for the attack you have new reporting out
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- Jasmine about the fact that they knew there were going to be attacks on Tim Walls and his military record that he had actually worn the campaign right
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- right yeah I talked to multiple people inside of the vetting process and inside of the uh campaign throughout this week
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- as he was getting attacked on his uh uh military record and they told me that this is something that came up in
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- vetting now he did a more than twoh hour long vetting interview with uh the
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- vetting team led by Eric Holder uh before he met with Harris this was something that came up they went
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- extensively they said through his military record and he said in fact you know these are places that I've been attacked before we could likely see me
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- being attacked again so I think that they were particularly ready for it now if there were some U mistakes happening
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- as they tried to defend it um I think that that is true too but also it's much different than what we saw when this
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- happened in 2004 right Democrats didn't push back here we saw Democrats very quickly coming to support Governor walls
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- in his record but it is interesting actually last night and hat tip to Dan bash for bringing this to my attention
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- um when vice president Harris was introducing Tim Walls she did not mention uh that he was a veteran she
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- named all the other titles he's a dad he's a husband governor of Minnesota was a teacher didn't mention that it was
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- interesting and it was it was worth noting we're going to continue this convers ation stay with us coming up Harris rises in the polls raising
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- Republican fears is Trump up for the task of defeating his new Challenger we're going to discuss that question
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- after a recalibration was on the horizon with the introduction of kamla Harris's running made as a new opportunity for
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- their nominee to go on the attack but we've seen a not so different Donald Trump on the campaign Trail this week
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- and while he did make some new jobs at Harrison walls there were plenty of off-script tangents and a lot of energy
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- dedicated to Joe Biden we're going to get Joe Biden out of the
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- White House what's he doing now Greg what's he doing you know they took it away from him they really did they took
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- it away the guy had 14 million votes he had none what do you like better it doesn't matter anymore but what do you
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- like better crooked Joe or sleepy Joe sleepy Joe crooked Joe Joe is bad Joe couldn't hear he couldn't he could do
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- anything we spent a $ hundred million fighting crooked Joe Biden and then all
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- of a sudden they decide to take him out and put somebody else in she never got one vote
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- well even before his rambling press conference on Thursday and his rally in Montana the Wall Street journal's
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- editorial board posed the question many Republicans are asking will he lose another election they write Mr Trump
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- seems to think he is still leading in the polls against a feeble incumbent the former president doesn't seem to realize
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- he is now in a close race that requires discipline and a consistent message to
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- Prevail my panel is with us uh with me now to discuss so soon and to start with you you wrote about this after the press
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- conference and you just have to wonder how much does Donald Trump Miss running against Joe Biden uh well possibly more
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- than anyone else in America except for the former except for the current president himself you know you've seen
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- Donald Trump in every stage of anger and denial the other day he even uh tried to
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- claim that it was unconstitutional for Biden to no longer be the candidate against him uh not surprisingly he can't
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- cite any particular uh provision the Constitution that would be the case Donald Trump is running the race of
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- Donald Trump and you know if if the Wall Street Journal thinks that Donald Trump needs message discipline and focus in
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- order to win well then he's definitely not going to win because Donald Trump at 78 is the same candidate that he was in
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- 2016 and 2020 except uh you know four or eight years older and a lot angrier and
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- more grievance Laden than he was even in those previous races so what we've seen
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- from him it's not just the FOC Fus on Biden which is sort of odd and distracting it's that his attacks on
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- Harris have failed to land he seems flailing all over the place you know throwing nasty nicknames up at the wall
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- not being able to come up with one his latest nasty nickname that he was uh using on social media even his own vice
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- presidential running mate JD van said no I'm not going to use that uh it's sort of unpronouncable I don't even know how
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- to say uh this nickname for her uh but the point is what I saw this week for
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- from Harrison was something that Biden wasn't able to do uh especially in the final stages of the campaign it's take
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- the race directly to Donald Trump I think Democratic strategists and many republican strategists believe if this
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- election is a referendum on Donald Trump well then Donald Trump is going to lose and so the more the focus is on him and
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- the less that it's on either Harris or her running mate the more that Democrats are going to feel confident going into
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- the fall yeah it was interesting even when there was the example of when there were protesters at one of the Harris's
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- rallies she stopped and said if you want Donald Trump to win then keep on doing what you're doing you know it was just
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- interesting the way um you've seen that repeatedly how the haris campaign is making this a referendum on Donald Trump
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- and the reality that Donald Trump is facing Dave is that he no longer has the wind at his back right the momentum is
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- no longer with him like we saw right after the assassination attempt and yet he is reverting back to his old ways you
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- have to wonder does he actually think this is going to help him what is going on here well he he's done this sort of
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- thing before we know that in the summer of 2021 Trump was asking people if he thought these theories that he could be
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- reinstated to office by challenge the election if they were real or not so Trump can stick to something after it's
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- effective and that's Republicans were happier I talked to this week about JD Vance even ones who liked him in the
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- first place were annoyed by the roll out uh he they were happy in particular because Vance pays attention to currents
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- across the media potential vulnerabilities opponent he really was trying as he followed Harrison walls from City to city in coming up with a
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- repeatable message based on something that reporters were chasing this was the the walls guard service and Trump wasn't
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- really doing that Trump can't for some reasons he's he didn't serve so it's he's less credible uh but you could see
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- how much more coherent the attacks from Vance were even if they didn't land they were directed at her they direct at walls there was a coherent this ticket
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- is going to make the country worse argument and Trump doesn't do that Trump rallies much less I think in August 2016
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- he had 27 rallies throughout the month he is not on track to do that so he does Less in public and even the interviews he does uh either they're less helpful
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- like the nbga interview or they're friendly interviews where he just kind of gets back to his cu the sack of
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- complaining there's nowhere near the level of scrutiny on Donald Trump's age
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- and fitness for office and I find it actually it's kind of remarkable we've seen something very unprecedented in
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- American politics this last uh few weeks which is a forcing out of an incumbent president by his own party over
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- questions about his continued Fitness for office I have not seen the same kind of drum beat around Donald Trump's
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- performance you've heard this ridiculous spin this week from Republicans saying oh well we need to talk about policy
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- when we talk about policy Donald Trump's going to talk about policy Donald Trump is not going to talk about policy he is not capable his original policy is to
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- shout incoherent things about uh inflation or to say to make crazy claims
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- that are untrue about how he had the greatest economy in the history of the world and I think that that's where you
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- see the energy from the Democrats is understanding that they now have the ability to cast ins sharp relief this
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- election as a question of do you want this 78-year-old guy who's for the third time
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- running for Republicans to be the president of the United States again it was Nikki Haley I think who said uh
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- earlier this year the first party that gets rid of their 80-year-old candidate
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- is going to be the party that wins this fall and I I just I think that that's the focus that we now have in the
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- election with Biden's exit well I should say there is a degree of recalibration going on with Donald Trump a lot of
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- times Donald Trump's rallies and even these press conferences are areas where he workshops arguments he workshops
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- attacks and all of that stuff and even the Democrats even folks who are diard Kamara understand that it's only a
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- matter of time until one of these things whether they be incoherent and and not great now until one of these things
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- sticks and seeps through or there's some mistakes that she she makes or or whatever and so I I I do agree that
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- there is a certain amount of randomness to it but I also think there's some experimentation going on that he's
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- trying to figure out what is going to you know really hit with his base but but the reality is as you point out Dave
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- um he has not been out there as much as we have seen in his past presidential campaigns he only spoke twice publicly
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- uh this past week but Vance on the other hand as you pointed out he's been dispatched to follow Harris in these
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- swing States and he's also been doing interviews uh he sat down with CNN staas for St of the Union where she asked him
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- about Tim Walls and KLA Harris's campaign calling him quote weird let's listen to his response so I think that
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- what it is is two people KLA Harris and Tim Waltz who aren't comfortable in their own skin because they aren't
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- comfortable with their policy positions for the American people and so their name calling instead of actually telling
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- the American people how they're going to make their lives better I think that's weird Dana but look they can call me whatever they want to they they have
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- done both they have both policies and they are trying to uh to Define if you no no if if you go to KLA Harris's
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- campaign page right now they still don't have a polic well let's talk about about what they're going to do I think that's
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- really insulting to Americans how is the Harris campaign looking at that I don't I think that
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- they're pretty dismissive of that argument I I think it's one thing to say that American voters don't know how the
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- vice president would be as president what her policies would be but I think it is not very Landing to say that Tim
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- wals a governor of Minnesota who has a very clear track record as executive leadership doesn't know who he is I
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- don't think that people are going to buy that I think it is a fair argument to say that they don't have their policies laid out now I think their argument
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- would be look we just started this campaign less than three weeks ago but I think it's a fair argument we of course heard her yesterday say that she's going
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- to lay out her economic plan next week it's going to be about how to tackle inflation how to tackle uh price uh
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- price gouging high prices um we expect that she's probably she's been talking a lot about immigration she's probably
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- going to go into other facets of the economy foreign policy there here and there so I think that that is a fair
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- argument but I don't know if it's going to land with the American public that these two two these two politicians
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- don't necessarily know who they are and I also think that they're um uh labeling him as weird has been effective it has
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- made its way across the Democratic party we even um I I know I read that New York Times report where even Trump apparently
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- said you know they're calling jdance weird they're not calling me weird right so I think it is seeping into the
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- national um uh the the national uh idea that JD Vance might be a little weird
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- and I think that that to the credit of Tim Walls and to the credit of uh Democrats taking it up but still they're
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- going to have to come out with policies right I I do think that they that JD bance makes a good point and he's going
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- to hammer away at that yeah until we learn more right I mean and it is a fair uh point to make all right thank you all
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- stay with us up next the Trump campaign gets hacked our legal and National Security analyst will be here says it has been hacked in a foreign election
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- interference attempt the campaign confirmed the hack yesterday after Politico reported it received emails
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- from an anonymous account with internal documents from the campaign's operation a trump spokesperson said quote these
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- documents were obtained illegally from foreign sources hostile to the United States and tended to interfere with the
- 2024 election and so chaos throughout our Democratic process now the Trump
- campaign is blaming Iran but it hasn't provided specific evidence of the allegation and it's unclear whether Iran
- was actually involved the Iranian mission to the United Nations said it does quote not Accord any Credence to
- such reports and the FBI told CNN quote we have no further comment or information at this time meanwhile the
- White House says it strongly condemns any attempt at foreign election interference joining us now to discuss
- the CNN legal and National Security analysts Carrie Cordo and Susan Glasser is still here with us as well so Carrie
- just help lay out what do we know so far what kind of information may have been stolen okay so I think if we're trying
- to put the pieces together what we've got to we have the Trump campaign saying that they were hacked we have Politico saying that they Reed something
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- from what looks to be a nefarious source and then there's a third piece and the third piece is this past week Microsoft
- issued a new report that they summarized on their Microsoft blog which said that
- uh Iran was targeting the 2024 election so when we take those three pieces
- together what I'm gathering from that is that the Trump campaign is is putting those together now the question that
- still is outstanding is whether or not the US government has been communicating with the Trump campaign and has
- confirmed any of this information and on that front I think at this point it really would be helpful if the
- intelligence Community would sort of put these pieces together so that the news organizations and the public have an
- accurate understanding of what the US government's assessment is yeah a little more transparency would be helpful as we try to assess what's going on here but I
- mean you know if indeed this was a hack right Susan this would not be the first time that something like this has
- happened uh in a presidential campaign right just go back to 2016 Russia hacked the dnc's emails and passed them along
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- to WikiLeaks here's what Trump had said as a reminder about that during the
- campaign Russia if you're listening I hope you're able to find the
- 30,000 emails that are missing I think you will probably be rewarded mightily
- by our press so what are the implications for the campaign if what's been
- hacked apparently gets out yeah it was interesting to hear that sort of very sanctimonious statement about the the
- the sanctity of the democratic process from the Trump campaign now that it appears uh that that the Trump campaign
- is being targeted the Politico report said that what they received specifically was a 270 something page
- dossier that appeared to be an internal vetting dossier of JD Vance as a vice presidential uh candidate possibly for
- Donald Trump and that it was dated some months ago and the Trump campaign confirmed to Politico that that wasn't
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- accurate you know that that was a real document that they had received so that's why there seems to be some real
- it's not just a generic statement about you know we've been hacked and and that Microsoft report on Friday Also
- described a specific incident that appeared to match the description of this they said that there was an effort
- essentially to spear fishing uh of a former senior Trump official campaign
- official ear the EXA that seemed to be uh the chain uh of this particular
- document of course we don't know did they obtain anything else was it the intention of this uh Source whether Iran
- backed or not to go ahead and dribble out the information as we saw in 2016
- with the the Russian Hack of the uh DNC and the Clinton campaign so there's a lot of unanswered questions but uh
- remember that Iran has been targeting Donald Trump and former officials from his administration for quite a long time
- there's still a lot of Fury on Iran's part because Trump ordered the assassination in early 2020 of the irgc
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- leader kasum solomani and uh many Trump former officials such as the former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo uh have
- been under consistent and John Bolton the former National Security adviser they've had to have Secret Service
- protection for years because of ongoing threats from Iran to Trump officials
- right and so it does bring up the question what threat does Iran you know post pose to this election not not just
- Iran but other foreign adversaries right right so putting this in context of you know going back you showed the clip from
- eight years ago so this is not an isolated event by any stretch of the imagination we'd look at 2016 there was
- substantial Russian interference then 2020 when the US intelligence Community was actually much more forward leaning
- in terms of what they provided publicly we knew that there were uh a lower level of Russian attempts there were Chinese
- sort of interest in the election and then there also were Iranian uh efforts to potentially interfere or what they're
- really trying to do is just create confusion so chaos and that's why it's so important for citizens to understand
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- that when they are consuming information online we have not only sort of domestic
- misinformation but we also have these foreign countries like Iran in particular that is engaging in this
- activity trying to affect influence uh the election one of the things that the Microsoft blog said is that one of the
- activities um Iran is uh supposed to be doing according to Microsoft is creating
- different websites different sources of information online some of them are right leaning some of them are left
- leaning their goal is just to confuse and create chaos amongst the americ
- American electorate yeah to undermine democracy basically all right thank you all for that up next Donald Trump says
- he'll debate again this September up against his brand new opponent after the first debate of 2024 change the Race and
- History if we didn't have a debate he'd still be there can you imagine if we didn't have a debate why the debate
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- about whether to debate Donald Trump announced this past week that he agreed to face kamla Harris on stage this
- September and both candidates began setting expectations she can't do an interview
- she's barely competent and she can't do an interview but I look forward to the debates because I think we have to set
- the record straight and she was a bad debater by the way very bad debater I'm glad that he's finally agreed to a
- debate on September 10th I'm looking forward to it and um hope he shows up
- the only confirmed matchup will be on September 10th Trump did mention two other potential debates as well
- September 4th on Fox News and September 25th on NBC now while the terms of those
- two are up in the air the Vice President says she's happy to have a conversation about other debates after the September
- 10th matchup so let's discuss we have a our panel back at joining us so all right the debate has been agreed to uh
- we know what each of these candidates look like on the debate stage because they been there before this is Trump's thirdd cycle appearing on the debate
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- stage here are some of the most memorable moments I really don't know what he said
- at the end of that sentence I don't think he knows what he said either would you like to cond and right stand back
- and stand by it's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our
- country because you'd be in jail trust fund Donald Donald relax go
- ahead I'm relaxed you're the basket case don't worry about it don't worry about it Little Marco
- gentlemen all right uh so I'm want to bring you in Susan because you were just talking earlier in the last panel about
- Donald Trump and how you see him uh rambling more and um that you know he's
- a different candidate now than when he was in 2016 and even 2020 what would you expect from him on the debate stage yeah
- you saw that clip that last clip you just played there in 2016 you know he really looks not just younger but he was
- he was much more uh sharp I think in his ability now the chest for him will be
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- can he even put together uh you know a clear case against Harris uh if you look
- at that debate with Joe Biden you can say it was already the most consequential debate in American history in the sense that it resulted in the
- exit of a candidate the Democratic candidate but what's very interesting is that Trump really didn't win that debate
- as much as Biden lost it he did not uh you know land any very significant
- attacks and so that's one thing to watch for the other thing for Harris though is
- this expectations game she's been really built up uh as the prosecutor who's going to prosecute the case against
- Donald Trump so in some ways because she's so much younger because she's perceived as sharper because she has
- this background as a prosecutor I think there's going to be a lot of pressure on her she's going to go into it potentially even as the favorite and so
- I think that that's something that her campaign is going to have to work to Tamp down the expectations going into
- that discussion she's been built up but I think by people who cover her as a as a good debater with Donald Trump as you
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- heard and with conservative media and Republicans she is seen as a lightweight
- who cannot debate her way out of anything all the words that they've said she has been MD for four years from her
- worst moments from from Cliffs where she sort of loses her place or overe explains something and so they're in
- their traditional expectation setting around Harris it's there already Trump can't help himself Vance can't even help
- himself really when he talks about her being chameleon already setting her up to succeed by not being as bad as the
- absolute worst Tik Tok you've ever seen of KLA Harris yeah and let's actually let's play some of those big debate moments um from kamla Harris against
- Mike Pence and the infamous fly remember that uh during the Democratic primary
- even back to her run for Senate let's watch if Mr Vice President I'm speaking
- I have I'm speaking we have a predator living in the White House you know there was a little girl in California who was
- part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was busted to
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- school every day and that little girl was me V you have a minute and a half
- and you have a minute and a half Miss
- Harris so there's a clear difference between the candidates in this
- race C what are you expecting um a couple things uh one I I
- I think she needs to get some reps in like I think that there's there's this sort of sugarhigh momentum moment where
- she hasn't actually been in front of crowds without a teleprompter and and for a lot of politicians even at the top
- of their game it's about you know are you taking questions that you don't know that are coming are you dealing with
- attacks are you you parrying I think that she you know has a very good reputation as someone who can take it to
- Trump she's taken it to Trump's officials that's how she ascended in politics but I think that there are also
- some questions about how she's going to deal with those questions coming at at at her you know and she's tried to label
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- Donald Trump as chaotic and as weird um if if he's controlled if he's able to
- sort of keep it under wraps and keep it under control and all that stuff that may be very very hard to do in a debate that's a big if right there I think we
- just have to lay the land here right the vice president is not going to do a debate September 4th for Fox News let's
- just be very honest here I mean this is a crazy time in politics Anything could happen but I would be insanely shocked
- to see that happen I think we're going to see her on September 10th whether or not the former president is there that's Up For Debate but I think that we'll see
- her at ABC stage on September 10th I think CA is right I think that she needs to get in back into the mode of trading
- um Jabs trading uh uh questions with the Press really being on her foot really
- really thinking in the moment uh but the vice president is somebody who preps uh really well for these types of debates
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- she preps in advance she already started prepping for her debate with uh JD Vance
- before President Biden dropped from the ticket she is now back in prep mode for now her being at the top of the ticket
- versus Trump I think that's going to continue throughout the month of August really trying to make sure that she's
- prepared really trying to make sure that she's able to show a contrast in a way that uh President Biden was wasn't able
- to do at his debate so I think there taking this very seriously um and I think that they're going to try to get
- those reps in in house in those prep sessions uh potentially maybe she'll sit for an interview potentially I think
- we're going to continue to see her uh taking more questions on the tarmac with the porters trying to get back into the
- flow of Tit for Tat Tit for Tat but I think you're right C I think that she does have to get into a moment where she
- feels like she's on her feet thinking in real time answering questions that are
- foreign speech fore
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