'Revelatory bombshell': Secret probe of Trump, suspicious Egypt money shut down by Barr's DOJ: WaPo
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Aug 3, 2024
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Carol Leonnig, national investigative reporter for the Washington Post, talks with Alex Wagner about her blockbuster reporting on a secret investigation into Donald Trump's relationship with Egypt and questions about 10 million dollars in cash that were left unanswered by the Justice Department under Bill Barr.
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- 0:00
- ANYBODY'S MONEY.
- I'M USING MY OWN MONEY, NOT
- USING THE LOBBYIST, NOT USING
- DONORS, I DON'T CARE.
- >> I'M SELF FUNDING MY
- CAMPAIGN.
- >> I'M TOTALLY SELF FUNDING MY
- CAMPAIGN .
- >> ONE OF THE FIRST BIG LIES
- DONALD TRUMP TOLD AFTER
- ANNOUNCING HIS CAMPAIGN FOR THE
- WHITE HOUSE IN 2016 WAS THAT
- HIS CAMPAIGN WOULD BE TOTALLY
- SELF FUNDED.
- THAT OF COURSE, WAS NOT TRUE.
- TRUMP ONLY SELF-FUNDED ABOUT
- 20% OF THE CAMPAIGN AND TURN TO
- DONORS AND SUPER PAC'S TO PICK
- UP THE TAB WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
- BUT THE VERY END OF OCTOBER,
- LESS THAN TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE
- 2016 ELECTION, THE FAMOUSLY
- CHEAP DONALD TRUMP OPENED UP
- HIS WALLET.
- >> I WROTE ANOTHER CHECK FOR
- $10 MILLION, I'M SPENDING MONEY
- LIKE CRAZY.
- >> TODAY THE WASHINGTON POST IS
- OUT WITH BREATHTAKINGLY
- REPORTING THAT PAVES THE LAST
- MINUTE $10 MILLION CASH
- INFUSION IN A WHOLE NEW LIGHT.
- THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAVE
- CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE
- INDICATING THAT EGYPTIAN
- PRESIDENT TRIED TO GIVE TRUMP
- 1:00
- $10 MILLION TO BOOST HIS
- CAMPAIGN AT ALMOST THE EXACT
- SAME TIME.
- IN SEPTEMBER OF 2016, CANDIDATE
- TRUMP WHO WAS ALREADY CALLING
- FOR HIS INFAMOUS MUSLIM BAND
- MET ON THE SIDELINES OF THE UN
- GENERAL ASSEMBLY FOR A CLOSED-
- DOOR MEETING WITH THE EGYPTIAN
- PRESIDENT.
- >> HE'S A FANTASTIC GUY, TOOK
- CONTROL OF EGYPT AND HE REALLY
- TOOK CONTROL OF IT AND I
- THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT MEETING.
- WE MET, FOR A LONG TIME
- ACTUALLY, WE HAD A LONG
- MEETING, AND IT WAS GOOD
- CHEMISTRY, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU
- HAVE GOOD CHEMISTRY WITH
- PEOPLE, YOU ARE THE KING OF
- THAT.
- A GOOD FEELING BETWEEN US.
- >> ABOUT A MONTH AFTER THE
- GREAT MEETING, TRUMP GAVE HIS
- CAMPAIGN THAT $10 MILLION CHECK
- , AND THEN, A FEW MONTHS AFTER
- THAT, JUST FIVE DAYS BEFORE
- TRUMP WAS SWORN INTO OFFICE,
- 2:00
- THE WASHINGTON POST REPORTS
- THAT A BANK THAT BRANCH IN
- CAIRO RECEIVED AN UNUSUAL
- LETTER FROM AN ORGANIZATION
- LINKED TO THE EGYPTIAN
- INTELLIGENCE SERVICE ASKING THE
- BANK TO KINDLY WITHDRAW NEARLY
- $10 MILLION FROM THE
- ORGANIZATION'S ACCOUNT, ALL IN
- CASH. INSIDE THE STATE RUN
- NATIONAL BANK OF EGYPT,
- EMPLOYEES WERE SOON BUSY
- PLACING BUNDLES OF $100 BILLS
- INTO TWO LARGE BAGS ACCORDING
- TO RECORDS FROM THE BANK.
- FOUR MEN ARRIVED AND CARRIED
- AWAY THE BAGS WHICH YOU S
- 2:23
- OFFICIALS LATER DESCRIBED AS
- 2:24
- WEIGHING A COMBINED 200 POUNDS
- 2:27
- AND CONTAINING WHAT WAS THEN A
- 2:28
- SIZABLE SHARE OF EGYPT'S
- 2:30
- RESERVE OF U.S. CURRENCY.
- 2:36
- NOW THERE ARE A FEW INCREDIBLY
- 2:37
- IMPORTANT PIECES OF CONTEXT
- 2:38
- HERE.
- 2:43
- ONE, IS THIS KIND OF CASH
- 2:45
- TRANSACTION AND BEING A
- 2:46
- POTENTIAL BRIBE FROM THE
- 2:47
- EGYPTIAN GOVERNMENT IS VERY
- 2:48
- MUCH WITHIN THE REALM OF
- 2:49
- POSSIBILITY.
- 2:49
- NEW JERSEY SENATOR BOB --
- 2:52
- DEMOCRAT BOB MENENDEZ WAS
- 2:53
- CONVICTED ON CHARGES OF
- 2:54
- ACCEPTING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
- 2:55
- OF DOLLARS OF BRIBES IN THE
- 2:56
- FORM OF ENVELOPES FULL OF CASH
- 2:57
- AS WELL AS LITERAL GOLD BARS.
- 3:00
- CASH AND GOLD BARS THAT CAME
- 3:06
- FROM EGYPTIAN INTELLIGENCE
- 3:06
- AGENTS FROM THE SAME AGENCY
- 3:07
- INVOLVED IN THIS NEARLY $10
- 3:08
- BILLION CASH WITHDRAW, THE
- 3:11
- OTHER KEY PIECE OF CONTEXT IS
- 3:12
- THAT THE EJECTION PRESIDENT IS
- 3:17
- NOT AS TRUMP PUT IT, A
- 3:18
- FANTASTIC GUY, HE'S AN
- 3:19
- AUTHORITARIAN DESPERATE WHICH
- 3:24
- OVERTHREW THE GOVERNMENT WITH
- 3:25
- MILITARY FORCE IN 2013 AND HAS
- 3:26
- STAYED IN POWDER POWER THROUGH
- 3:32
- SET -- SHAM ELECTIONS BUT
- 3:36
- DESPITE THAT, THE PRESIDENT IS
- 3:38
- ONE OF THE FIRST GUEST THAT
- 3:39
- PRESIDENT TRUMP INVITED TO THE
- 3:40
- WHITE HOUSE AND ONE OF THE
- 3:41
- FIRST FOREIGN LEADERS THAT
- 3:42
- TRUMP MET WITH ON HIS VERY
- 3:43
- FIRST INTERNATIONAL TRIP.
- 3:44
- THROUGHOUT ALL OF HIS
- 3:44
- PRESIDENCY, TRUMP COZIED UP TO
- 3:50
- HIM DESPITE HIS BRUTAL
- 3:53
- CRACKDOWNS ON POLITICAL
- 3:53
- OPPOSITIONS AND HIS BLATANT
- 3:54
- CONSOLIDATION OF POWER AND HIS
- 3:55
- DISREGARD FOR HUMAN RIGHTS.
- 3:56
- AT ONE POINT, TRUMP WAS EVEN
- 3:57
- OVERHEARD CALLING HIM HIS
- 4:01
- FAVORITE DICTATOR.
- 4:02
- CLEARLY THERE'S MORE THAN ONE.
- 4:03
- SO ALL OF THIS, THE CLASSIFIED
- 4:04
- U.S. INTELLIGENCE, THAT HE
- 4:05
- TRIED TO GIVE TRUMP $10
- 4:08
- MILLION, THE $10 MILLION CASH
- 4:09
- WITHDRAWAL, ALL OF THIS IS RED
- 4:15
- HOT, SO WHERE WE JUST LEARNING
- 4:16
- ABOUT IT NOW?
- 4:17
- THE OTHER HALF OF THIS
- 4:20
- INCREDIBLE PIECE FROM THE
- 4:21
- WASHINGTON POST IS ABOUT HOW
- 4:22
- FEDERAL PROSECUTORS
- 4:22
- INVESTIGATED ALL OF THIS FOR
- 4:41
- >>> BACK IN 2018 IN THE MIDDLE
- 4:43
- OF THE MAHLER INVESTIGATION
- 4:43
- INTO RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN
- 4:44
- THE ELECTION, THE BC FEDERAL
- 4:45
- COURTHOUSE WAS FILLED DAILY
- 4:49
- WITH REPORTERS LOOKING FOR
- 4:50
- CLUES, LOOKING FOR LEADS, BUT
- 4:51
- ON DECEMBER 14th OF THAT YEAR,
- 4:52
- SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT MADE IT
- 4:58
- DECIDEDLY MUCH MORE DIFFICULT
- 4:59
- FOR THE REPORTERS TO DO THEIR
- 5:00
- JOBS.
- 5:01
- THAT DAY COURT OFFICIALS
- 5:01
- MYSTERIOUSLY SHUT DOWN AN
- 5:02
- ENTIRE FLOOR OF THE FEDERAL
- 5:06
- COURTHOUSE, RESTRICTING ACCESS
- 5:07
- TO BOTH THE PRESS AND THE
- 5:08
- PUBLIC.
- 5:08
- REPORTERS ASSUMED THAT THE
- 5:09
- CLOAK AND DAGGER MANEUVERINGS
- 5:10
- WERE RELATED TO RUSSIA BUT TWO
- 5:12
- YEARS LATER WE LEARNED IT WAS
- 5:13
- ABOUT A SEPARATE INVESTIGATION
- 5:14
- LOOKING INTO WHETHER THE
- 5:18
- EGYPTIAN GOVERNMENT COULD HAVE
- 5:19
- BACKED THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
- 5:20
- THAT DONALD TRUMP DONATED TO
- 5:21
- HIS OWN CAMPAIGN IN 2016.
- 5:26
- AND TODAY IN AN EXCLUSIVE AND
- 5:27
- DEEPLY REPORTED INVESTIGATION
- 5:28
- BY THE WASHINGTON POST, WE ARE
- 5:29
- LEARNING ABOUT HOW A $10
- 5:35
- MILLION CASH CASH WITHDRAWAL AT
- 5:36
- A BANK IN CAIRO, FIVE DAYS
- 5:38
- BEFORE TRUMP WAS INAUGURATED,
- 5:39
- HOW THAT INTENSIFY THAT
- 5:39
- INQUIRY.
- 5:40
- AND ALSO ABOUT THE EFFORT
- 5:45
- INSIDE TRUMP'S DOJ TO BRING THE
- 5:47
- INVESTIGATION TO A CLOSE.
- 5:48
- JOINING ME NOW IS ONE OF THE
- 5:49
- JOURNALIST WHO WROTE THE STORY,
- 5:50
- CAROL LEONNIG, SHE IS OF COURSE
- 5:52
- A PULITZER PRIZE WINNER AND AN
- 5:57
- INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER AT THE
- 5:58
- WASHINGTON POST.
- 5:59
- THIS STORY IS NOT TO BE
- 6:00
- BELIEVED, THANK YOU FOR BEING
- 6:01
- HERE TONIGHT, FIRST, JUST YOU
- 6:02
- KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF INS
- 6:03
- AND OUTS BUT AS YOU UNDERSTAND
- 6:05
- IT FROM YOUR REPORTING, WHERE
- 6:06
- DO INVESTIGATORS, OR WHERE DO
- 6:07
- THEY SUSPECT THE MONEY MAY HAVE
- 6:09
- COME FROM, AND WHERE WERE THEY
- 6:10
- CONCERNED IT MIGHT HAVE GONE?
- 6:16
- >> FIRST OFF, THANKS FOR
- 6:19
- FOCUSING ON THE STORY, WHICH
- 6:20
- WAS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT TO
- 6:21
- REPORT OUT AND IT INVOLVED A
- 6:22
- LOT OF SENSITIVITY INCLUDING
- 6:23
- WHERE I WILL START THE STORY
- 6:24
- WHICH IS CLASSIFIED
- 6:25
- INTELLIGENCE.
- 6:25
- THE CIA BASICALLY ALERTED THE
- 6:31
- DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN THE
- 6:32
- EARLY PART OF 2017 THAT THEY
- 6:33
- HAD INFORMATION FROM AN
- 6:36
- INFORMANT AND OTHER COOPERATED
- 6:37
- SOURCES OF INTELLIGENCE THAT
- 6:37
- INVESTIGATORS AT THE TIME
- 6:41
- DESCRIBED AS JAW-DROPPING.
- 6:42
- THE INTELLIGENCE SUGGESTED THE
- 6:43
- PRESIDENT OF EGYPT WAS PLANNING
- 6:48
- AND ARRANGING TO SEND $10
- 6:56
- MILLION, ILLEGALLY, TO HELP
- 6:57
- DONALD TRUMP'S REELECTION
- 6:58
- EFFORT.
- 6:58
- YOU MAY REMEMBER AT THAT TIME,
- 6:59
- THERE WAS THIS CONCERN IN
- 7:03
- DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN WORLD
- 7:04
- THAT AFTER THE ACCESS HOLLYWOOD
- 7:05
- REVELATIONS, DONORS WERE
- 7:06
- BACKING AWAY FROM HIM AND HE
- 7:16
- DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT AND
- 7:17
- IT WAS RUNNING ON FUMES AND HIS
- 7:18
- AIDES WERE ASKING HIM TO WRITE
- 7:20
- A BIG CHECK OF HIS OWN MONEY TO
- 7:21
- THE ACCOUNT AND HE WOULD NOT DO
- 7:23
- IT.
- 7:23
- WELL, IN SEPTEMBER, HE MEETS
- 7:24
- HIM AND AT THE END OF OCTOBER,
- 7:25
- HE WRITES THIS CHECK.
- 7:26
- WHAT THE INTELLIGENCE SUGGESTED
- 7:27
- AND WHAT LED TO AND SPURRED THE
- 7:28
- DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
- 7:29
- INVESTIGATION WAS THAT HE
- 7:30
- WANTED TO HELP TRUMP HE WAS
- 7:32
- PROMISING A GREAT RELATIONSHIP
- 7:37
- IF HE WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT AND
- 7:40
- THE INVESTIGATORS NEEDED TO GET
- 7:42
- TRUMP'S BANK RECORDS TO TRY AND
- 7:48
- FIGURE OUT WHO THIS MYSTERIOUS
- 7:50
- MONEY THAT THEY LATER LEARNED,
- 7:51
- HAD ACTUALLY BEEN WITHDRAWN,
- 7:52
- JUST AS THE INTELLIGENCE
- 7:52
- SUGGESTED, FROM ONE OF THE
- 7:53
- ACCOUNTS LINKED TO THE EGYPTIAN
- 8:00
- INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, THIS MONEY
- 8:01
- WITHDRAWN, PUT INTO FULL BANK
- 8:02
- -- DUFFEL BAGS, VERY LARGE
- 8:08
- PERCENTAGE OF U.S. BILLS, AND
- 8:09
- IN THE EGYPTIAN CURRENCY, DID
- 8:18
- THAT MONEY THAT GOT WITHDRAWN,
- 8:20
- FIVE DAYS BEFORE DONALD TRUMP
- 8:20
- BECAME PRESIDENT, DID IT LAND
- 8:21
- IN DONALD TRUMP'S ACCOUNTS?
- 8:24
- THE INVESTIGATORS, FROM THEIR
- 8:25
- STANDPOINT, THEY WOULD NEVER BE
- 8:26
- ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION
- 8:27
- BECAUSE AS SOON AS THEY BEGAN
- 8:28
- PROPOSING SUBPOENAS TO DO THIS,
- 8:29
- THE U.S. ATTORNEY SAID THAT
- 8:37
- SHE, JESSE LOU, NEEDED TO
- 8:38
- REVIEW THIS AND BRIEFED THE
- 8:39
- ATTORNEY GENERAL.
- 8:39
- A FAIRLY NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL
- 8:40
- NAMED BILL BARR, AND WITHIN
- 8:50
- DAYS OF REVIEWING THE
- 8:51
- INTELLIGENCE HERSELF, MEETING
- 8:52
- WITH BILL BARR, CONFERRING WITH
- 8:53
- HIM, SHE RETURNED TO
- 8:54
- INVESTIGATORS AND SAID SHE NO
- 8:55
- LONGER BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS A
- 8:56
- GOOD IDEA.
- 8:56
- THE FBI WAS SO ANGRY THAT THEY
- 9:02
- BEGAN PREPARING THEIR VERSION
- OF AN ULTIMATUM.
- THEIR VIEW WAS IF WE CAN'T EVER
- LOOK AT TRUMP'S BANK RECORDS,
- WHICH ARE A PRETTY EASY THING
- FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS TO
- SUBPOENA, IF WE CAN'T GET
- THOSE, THEN, THERE IS NO CHANCE
- IN THE WORLD OF US EVER GETTING
- TO THE TRUTH OR THE BOTTOM OF
- THE INVESTIGATION.
- >> YEAH, I MEAN THERE SO MUCH
- HERE, CAROL, AND ONE OF THE
- THINGS I'M INTERESTED IN, YOU
- KNOW, THERE IS AN ASPECT OF
- MONEY LAUNDERING, I WILL READ
- AN EXCERPT FROM THE PIECE.
- INVESTIGATORS SAW HALLMARKS OF
- AN INTERNATIONAL MONEY
- LAUNDERING OPERATION IN THE WAY
- THE FUNDS MOVED INTO AND
- THROUGH ACCOUNTS AHEAD OF THE
- CASH WITHDRAWAL, INDICATIONS OF
- A POTENTIAL CRIME THAT MAY OR
- MAY NOT HAVE BEEN RELATED TO AN
- EFFORT TO HELP TRUMP.
- THERE'S EFFORT TO HELP TRUMP
- AND THERE'S ACTUALLY THE SOURCE
- OF THE MONEY AND THEN THERE'S
- INVESTIGATION BEING QUASHED,
- WHAT STANDS OUT TO YOU AS THE
- MOST I THINK, DISTURBING
- 10:00
- ELEMENT OF WHAT IS ALREADY A
- FAIRLY DISTURBING STORY?
- >> I'M NOT THE PERSON TO DECIDE
- WHAT IS DISTURBING, I'M AN
- INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER.
- I LEARN A LOT ABOUT HOW
- CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AND
- SENSITIVE INTELLIGENCE IS
- HANDLED PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE
- CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS
- INVOLVING HIGH PROFILE PEOPLE.
- AND WHAT MY COLLEAGUE AND I
- HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN AS WE
- REPORTED THIS OUT, LOOKING UP
- PEOPLE'S CONTEMPORANEOUS NOTES,
- LOOKING AT RECORDS FROM THE
- INVESTIGATION, REVIEWING
- DOCUMENTS THAT ARE STILL
- SECRET, WHAT WE HEARD OVER AND
- OVER AGAIN WAS, THERE WAS
- CHILLING, JOB RAKING
- INTELLIGENCE THAT POINTED TO A
- POTENTIAL MONEY LAUNDERING
- OPERATION IN AN EFFORT AT LEAST
- BY THE EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT TO
- BRIBE OR COMPROMISE DONALD
- TRUMP AND THAT WHEN EVIDENCE
- WAS GATHERED BY MOLARS TEAM AT
- THE VERY END OF THE MAHLER
- PROBE, WHEN THIS EVIDENCE WAS
- GATHERED OF THIS MYSTERIOUS
- 11:04
- CASH WITHDRAWAL
- PIECE, THE STATUTE OF
- LIMITATIONS HAS EXPIRED.
- THE DEADLINE FOR BRINGING
- CHARGES UNDER THE FEDERAL
- STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR
- ILLEGAL CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS
- EXPIRED JANUARY 15th OF 2022.
- BUT IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE WITH
- REPORTING LIKE THIS THAT THIS
- STORY ENDS THERE.
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