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US POLITICS MSNBC - DEMOCRATS VP CHOICE Breaking Trump News [3PM] 8/4/2024 \| 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 Latest Trump August 4, 2024 PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq9Ii6bpWq0 Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
Breaking Trump News [3PM] 8/4/2024 \| 🅼🆂🅽🅱️🅲 Latest Trump August 4, 2024 99.1K subscribers Aug 4, 2024 Transcript 0:00 inside politics Sunday I'm Manu Raji vice president KLA Harris is zeroing in on a crucial high stakes decision that could make or break her path to the presidency and redefine the Democratic party for years to come who will be her running mate and what impact will her choice have on the final 93 days before the elections now the news will be revealed by Tuesday if not earlier Harris is expected to meet with at least three top finalists and sources tell CNN these are the six men she's considerate with Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro Arizona Senator Mark Kelly and Minnesota Governor Tim Walls so far getting interviewed today now it comes after Harris spent yesterday behind closed doors grilling Aids on scores of pages of vetting documents including potential controversies from the candidates records Harris and her pick will hit the trail Tuesday in Philadelphia kicking off a multi-day blitz across seven Battleground States meanwhile Donald Trump stumped with JD Vance in Atlanta last night at the same Arena where 1:00 Harris held a rally earlier in the week he spent much of the time targeting the Republican governor of Georgia but he also lashed out at Harris we're going to defeat crazy Kamala Kamala you know there's about 19 different ways of saying it she only likes three she was here a week ago lots of empty seats but the crowd she got was because she had entertainers by the way I'd like to congratulate Vladimir Putin for having made yet another great deal she refuses to even say the words illegal alien or radical Islamic terrorist she is considered more left-wing than crazy Bernie Sanders look at her she's worse than Bernie and she happens to be really a low IQ individual all right so who is the best VP pick to help Harris push back now let's break this all down with a great panel this morning we have Margaret tof of axios CNN's Harry an Laura Bron Lopez from PBS NewsHour and politicos Eli 2:03 stokel good morning to you all thank you so much for joining me a lot to digest a busy weekend with the vice president and these meetings uh just some sense of what's Happening behind the scenes we understand from our reporting from others reporting as well that there have been extensive briefings on each candidate so far there've been vetting materials have been looking at we do expect Josh Shapiro Governor walls of Minnesota and Mark Kelly the Arizona senator to get these interviews uh today what are you hearing from your sources about where the vice president is who she's leading to or is it still murky at this point I don't know it may still be undecided and these final interviews May really be uh decisive ultimately in terms of figuring out who she has a rapport with who she feels comfortable with uh the people that have talked to um me and my colleagues have said look the polling is important testing um you know their their video appearances testing their interviews looking at all that that matters Eric Holder and AIDS have done that for about a week or so but ultimately they say she is going to need someone that she feels 3:02 comfortable with so you can make an argument um that you know Shapiro or Kelly really it's a simple choice you know take one of these swing States and try to take it off the board um but you know this is a a candidate and in kamla Harris who has not been a Washington her entire career has relationships with these individuals but not deep yearslong relationships and is trying to make an assessment um and knows personally from her own experience of what it's like to be in this job and so you know she says she wants a governing partner um who does she feel like she can actually um have trust with it's hard to establish in just you know a short interview three back toback and then have to make a decision yeah but it's a bit of a you know it's a bit of a guess and it's also I think still also going to come down largely to what is the calculation and how do you get to 270 and who helps the most and who where how does the roll out happen how do you introduce this candidate how you define them and the question to put to voters about the some of the key the candidates here Kelly Shapiro Bashir really people don't know 4:02 much about any of these candidates so far Kelly a little bit more it's really really early uh I'm I'm seeing Harry and gri here and I'm sure that those percentages are even too low on the don't know category most of these guys no clue who Mark Kelly Josh or Andy basher in a sense though you know people don't know who a lot of people don't have a real sense of kamla Harris true right so she's going to have to Define both herself and the VP this makes for one of the more fascinating campaigns probably the most fascinating in my lifetime now I know I'm fairly young but still and because you have basically a presidential candidate who just came onto the scene you know rising to the top of the ticket within the last few weeks then she's quickly picking her VP nominee it leaves a wonderful process whereby we have this less than a 100 day campaign in which the Democrats are going to try to Define themselves very quickly the Republicans are obviously going to try and stop that and Define Harrison whoever she chooses as her VP running mate and I'll just note in in terms of who she's picking as a running mate we obviously have no idea we know it's amongst these you know five or six finalists but at the end of the day the decision comes down to her and the math 5:02 is pretty simple which is do I want to choose somebody who perhaps is a social media star and appeals to the progressive left and a Tim wals who's come on strong lately or do I want to choose a swing state person either mark Kelly or Josh Shapiro and the betting money is on Shapiro at this particular Point those 19 electoral votes from the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania but the truth is yeah yeah when you're when you're looking at just the math I mean Pennsylvania is worth more than Arizona when it comes to the electoral college but she is hearing from a lot of different places whether it's you know some of her longtime close confidants who I've spoke to one who's close to Harris who seem to be more partial to Basher or to walls but then donors really prefer Shapiro and so these are all the things that she's weighing in addition to you know very built out vetting material about who ultimately will help her the most who ultimately does she have the best relationship with at the end of the day and let's before you jump in let's talk a little bit more about Shapiro and this is him on the 6:02 campaign Trail and just get a sense of what he would be like as a VP candidate you could not have a clear contrast between KLA Harris and Donald Trump and let me tell you something he's pretty afraid the chaos that he injected into our lives we don't want to go back to that gang JD Vance is a total phony baloney he is the most inorganic candidate I think I have ever seen on the national stage you know meantime Shapiro who is Jewish has faced some criticism from some folks on the left over his views on Israel and what's happening in Gaza there have been a lot of reporting of this is recently there's a time story here about it CNN had some reporting about it as well uh one Congressman Jared M criticized some of these progressives whove come after Shapiro saying these progressives don't want a Jew say it out loud is H how is 7:02 that going to play as KLA Harris is considering all this I'm not sure it matters in penssylvania right I mean Governor Shapiro's numbers are are so good in his home state I think his favorability rating 61 and that's includes swing voters rights two to one uh in terms of favorable unfavorable but um what's really interesting is that I think you know 30 years ago if you'd asked can a Jewish candidate be on at the top of the ticket successfully there would have been a different metric for why that might or might not be difficult you would have been looking at how do older voters feel how do swing voters feel how how might right of Center voters feel his potential challenge is young voters now which have always been less of an obstacle for Jewish candidates and now it and now the tables have kind of turned because of the controversy you were just in Michigan I mean does what does a Shapiro do for Michigan well the thing that he maybe does in Michigan is win over some of those more Independent Center voters the swing voters I mean young voters appear 8:05 to be starting to come back to KLA Harris uh I was also just in Georgia for her alley there and I spoke to some young voters there and they sounded much more excited about her than they had about President Biden so if she were to pick Shapiro you could think that maybe she would offset some of Shapiro when it comes to those young voters yeah I think it's about balancing the ticket right Harris you know seems to have that appeal young voters perhaps those on the progressive left they've seem to have rallied around her while Shapiro can reassure those in the middle and I will note at least in the political science literature VP nominees don't tend to have that much of an effect people vote for the top of the ticket not the bottom the one measurable effect that does seem to be consistent although it is quite small is that home state effect and wouldn't it be nice if you're a Democrat they had say half a point or a point toe margin in a state that Joe Biden won last time around by 1.2 points that's the math that Harris is dealing with right now of course we'll see if she's doing the say math I am or she's just in 9:00 a completely different equation meantime over the weekend there's been a push on the left for the governor of Minnesota Tim Walls they seem to you think that he would be the person that could go after Trump but what does walls give if Harris adds him to her ticket well you know he's not from a a Tipping Point State exactly but he codes Midwest in a way that you know he could have appealed to the same voters uh that you're talking about um even though he's not from Pennsylania Arizona you know he reads far more sort of middle of the country I mean he gives her that Geographic diversity he doesn't code Progressive even though he is Progressive and you see Bernie Sanders coming out for him you see uh representative jaia Paul the progressive caucus leader coming out for him getting hints that Nancy Pelosi thinks he'd be a good pick so there is a push for walls I think largely based on how effective he's been in his TV appearances over the last week or 10 days or so um but is that still something of a long shot I mean ultimately you don't need excitement you don't need to excite the progressive base Harris has done that 10:02 right you're raising $300 million in effectively a couple weeks you don't really have to worry about excitement you have to worry about getting to 270 and and so and also the big part here for a VP candidate is Do no harm right if we see saw Sarah Palin she did harm we'll see how JD Vance is he doing harm you know he had he had a stumble when he's come out of the gates the resurface childless cat lady comments talking about people in power who don't have kids criticizing them and I put the question to Republicans this past week about the number two on their ticket it was uh offensive to me as a woman um women make their own determinations as to whether or not they're going to have children or cats or dogs or how many CH kids are going to have I think most people understand what he was trying to say and that is that uh Republicans support policies that are good for families was he the right choice I you know I didn't I've never 11:01 been in a selection pool for VP so I don't I don't necessarily I'm not going to aound on that is he hurting or helping Donald Trump right now oh God I he's not helping I mean I you know if you look at the net favorable ratings they're now in net double negative double digits he's the least popular VP nominee coming out of his party's convention since 1980 the first in the negative territory look I said that people vote for the top of the ticket if there's any example of someone who might hurt a ticket coming two weeks out of the convention it's this guy whether or not he's doing it and one thing that uh the Harris campaign is super excited about with JD Vance is that they feel as though he's given them a big in when it comes to Reproductive Rights one that you know Donald Trump was trying to moderate a bit by saying I don't support a national 15we ban but now with all of JD Vance's past comments Harris's campaign feels like there's a lot of of stuff to play with I think the center center right Republican women Suburban vote uh this is problematic for but on the other side of the coin uh these are not 12:04 voters that are flocking the kamla Harris right now also so I think this may be more of a turnout energization question than it is a swing voter question but this mood music it is playing out while she's in this very condensed process of picking a VP and they are seeing these stories and they are thinking as they look over the Oppo files of Shapiro or Kelly or walace and thinking what kind of new Cycles are we going to have to endure over the next couple and I don't think they want to be in the same position of having to defend comments like JD Vance and Trump are having no question about it what will the debate look like is there going to be a debate another thing we will discuss up coming up next Trump tries to hone in on his attacks on Harris as he takes the stage in Atlanta she wants the government to stop people from eating red meat she wants to get rid of your cows No More Cows an inic Republican party emerged from their party's convention more united than they ever had have been in the Trump era now it's a brand new race and Republicans are on edge As Trump is 13:04 back to saying things that is making many in the party recoil take last week's remarks when he questioned kamla Harris's racial identity and many Republicans instead urged him to focus on Harris's policy agenda now last night he did stay quiet on her racial identity but he acknowledged his campaign still needs to figure out what sticks on Harris so we have to work hard to Define her we I don't want to even Define her I just want to say who she is she's a horror show so admitting that they're still trying to Define her but his strategy what is the strategy right now besides throwing the kitchen sink at her see if 2016 works again I think is is the strategy distract people try to redefine it regain control of the narrative uh the the problem is that the landscape really has changed since 2016 like the demographic landscape has changed since 2016 you've got at least 10% of Americans who identify as multi-racial much larger numbers who would identify as Multicultural multiethnic four out of 14:05 10 Americans either are step parents or stepchildren or live in a step house so the numbers don't you know land quite the same way I think he's trying to figure out before we get into labor day before we cross the Rubicon into the final stretch of you know early voting and voting what works and what doesn't work as you studied the numbers have you seen anything that does work in so in terms of defining no I don't I we don't know what he's doing because he doesn't know what he's doing and so trying to analyze what's cooking in his head that's a very difficult thing often times but you know the big difference between this in 2016 was there was already a visceral dislike of Hillary Clinton he was just able to pick up the ball and run with it this time around there isn't that same amount of dislike for Harris obviously she's not as well defined but the fact is in a number of polls she's actually popping favorable ratings among above her unfavorable rating you never saw that in 2016 so Donald Trump at this particular Point has his work cut out for him meantime instead of maybe just focusing 15:06 exclusively on his opponent kamla Harris he spent a lot of time last night going after the Republican governor of he Kamp is very bad for the Republican Party he wouldn't do anything I won this state twice in my opinion once once I won and I did much better the second time he could have ended the Trav y with a phone call because I did nothing wrong and neither did all of those good people he's a bad guy he's a disloyal guy and he's a very average Governor Little Brian Little Brian C little briyan who has a significant amount of Republican support in Georgia a popular governor in a swing state and you saw the number of Republicans that rushed in that state to defend uh Kemp and to defend rafis bger because because Kemp is popular Ian I was just at Trump's rally in Pennsylvania and one thing I'll say is that that that election denialism him 16:04 lying about the 2020 election him lying about the 2024 election it is just it feeds to his base I mean the voters that I spoke to there are fully convinced not just that 2020 was stolen but that 2024 is going to be rigged they're even convinced that Democrats were a part of the assassination attempt which is which he kind of suggested almost last night he said we don't really know the motive of the shooter but he suggested that perhaps his democracy anti democ arent F this his his base voters truly believe that the thing is is though the voters that he needs to add to his Coalition they aren't okay with with him spreading those lies and the other thing I'm glad you mentioned in the setup the RNC because that was what three weeks ago and not only the unity that that you could feel at that convention but also this idea that was just days after the assassination attempt that this was a changed changed man Donald Trump watched the rally you watched the Naj speech last week this is the same guy and I think a big problem a fundamental 17:02 problem for him in this race now that Harris has replaced Biden is that he is the same guy doing the same move telling the same jokes that he was telling not just in 2020 but in 2016 this is his Third campaign for president and now instead of running against an 81-year-old who does not look fit to do the job for another four years he's running against someone a complete generation younger and he is the one who looks stale because nothing has changed and he's talking about 2024 and he's not talking about what he's going to do for people he's talking about his own excuse narrative for why he lost in 2020 and I just think toor's point you know the Bas mates chear some of that but the the the people in the middle who are newly open now to Toma Harrison a way they weren't with Joe Biden they're going to hear that and say why is he talking about that and look they're not just the not the swing voters but even people in his own party were're going back to the pattern that we' have seen throughout the Trump era Trump saying something Republicans reacting saying I didn't see the Tweet or I didn't hear it or I don't want to respond to it including last week remember he said at the nabj 18:06 conference black journalist Conference of asked he brought it up he said the Harris turned black he said he questioned her racial identity that is exactly what Republicans say he should not be talking about was was it appropriate for Trump to go after Harris's racial identity h no I don't think so my problem with uh vice president Harris is the policy choices she's made anything that takes us away from the failure in the economy the failure at the border and the failure on National Security in my opinion is a distraction the fact that Donald Trump uses satire to um point that out you know it's misunderstood by a lot of people it provides an opportunity for people to attack him he shouldn't do it do you think it was appropriate for the former president to question KL Harrison's racial identity uh I really don't have anything to say about that well I what's so interesting is 19:06 that just on the merits Trump has a really big baked in Advantage which is that inflation has taken a toll on people's psyche and pocket books and Harris is going to run as as the other half of the incumbent ticket I mean she's the new incumbent right and so I don't I don't know why like I don't know what the purpose of this is because when you look at at the polling yes she's come up it's a closer race than it was against President Biden just a few weeks ago but within the margin of error Trump's still ahead in every state but there's no question about it as we've all been saying this is a new race of fundraising the numbers that just came out staggering really I mean camea Harris uh her July fundraising total she's been in the race for a couple weeks now $310 million in July and her cash on hand Advantage about 50 million really ER rasing would have been a deficit for the Biden campaign it it just feels like the Donald Trump campaign was on a nice straight track and that RNC and it just it seems like 20:05 everything from that last night onward where Trump's speech literally lasted until the next day in the Eastern Time Zone has been going downhill you know it's just he doesn't seem to know exactly what he wants to be doing and it just almost kind of feels Bizarro whereby you know you mentioned inflation but also we had a jobs report this week which wasn't that great it wasn't good if you're just going by the fundamental the fundamentals almost seem to be going back toward Trump but Trump himself just can't keep it on the class talk about the recession talk about in me they've been fighting all weekend about whether there's actually going to have a debate in the fall Trump had agreed to the ABC debate and then now he says he doesn't want to do it he wants to do on Fox Harris says she will not do it on Fox do do we think Trump really wants to have a debate does Harris really want to have a debate or is this not going to happen I think Harris wants to have a debate I'm not sure that Donald Trump wants to have a debate which is why he backed out of the ABC one that was already agreed to and then said let's go do it on Fox with a live uh rally audience uh and so 21:04 whether we're going to see one I don't know I think the racial identity stuff is interesting because of the fact that Republicans all the time say Democrats are trying to make everything about identity and politics and yet they are the ones Trump is the one that injected this into uh politics right now when Harris has not been talking about her background yeah it's the same white identity politics that he's been practicing for eight years and again I just he you know he could make Harris the incumbent but right now she's the one who feels new and he he's a former president who is doing the same thing again and again and again and we'll see how the voters react a lot to digest but coming up next I just took a trip to Ohio to take a look at a race that could decide control of the US Senate how one vulnerable Senate Democrat is walking a tight rope after the shakeup at the top of his ticket it's not who you vote for for president it's who stands up I'll pill to keep control of the United States 22:00 Senate with multiple sitting Senators at risk of losing their seats in red and purple States the big question has KLA Harris at the top of the tickets made things easier or harder I went to Ohio this week to dig into one of the Nations nation's Marquee races between Democratic senator Sher Brown and his GOP opponent Bernie Marino as Democrats rally behind kamla Harris in red States it's more complicated like in Ohio where Democratic senator shered Brown faces a stiff Challenge from Trump back Republican Bernie Marino a Race central to the fight for the Senate majority are you able to defend KLA Harris's record my job is to fight for Ohio Workers I you can talk about presidential race that's your job my job but don't have an impact on this race that's your opinion I I know that what will matter is people vote for me because I stand up for workers and will continue to fight for workers Ohio has become a GOP stronghold with Trump carrying the state in 2020 by 23:04 eight points and a heavy favorite this fall plus Brown is trying to defy this daunting Trend in 68 of the 69 Senate races in 2016 and 2020 voters elected a senator from the same party as a preferred presidential candidate you backed much of the hais bid an agenda so how hard is that going to be to run that far ahead of the top of the ticket as you know and I as I've said I'm not a pundit I'm not a commentator I don't think of Politics as left or right I think of it as whose side you're on you Ohioans know I've been on their side will you campaign with KLA Harris if she comes here I don't I have not I mean I have not I've got my own schedule she's got her own schedule um I will focus on my race my strategy is perhaps different from hers uh talking about the differences on abortion rights and on minimum wage between Bernie Marino and me and how I fight every day for the Dignity of work Joe Mansion retiring in West Virginia Democrats likely have to run the table to keep the Senate at 5050 24:05 hoping to hang on to two of their three seats in red States and all six of their competitive seats in Ohio democrats have ported nearly $50 million on TV ads since March including $25 million from Brown's campaign compared to less than $1 million for marinos being a car dealer worked out well for Bernie Marino but what's it like to work for him Brown's Focus Marino's ownership of 55 car dealerships and a court fight that forced the Republican to pay more than $400,000 to two former employees plus 14 other settlements we we followed the law always we did absolutely nothing wrong saying of brown the only tool he's got in his toolbox is to disparage me I'm extraordinarily proud of the company I built but I mean if you were order to pay back money $410,000 you must have done something wrong no well that's what that jury decided uh I disagree with the 25:01 verdict we paid it Marino now hoping to write the coils of trump and fellow ohy JD Vance speaking at the GOP convention a vote for Trump and Marino is a vote to put America first as brown has no plans to go to his will you go to the convention I'm not going to the convention I've often skip conventions I don't plan to Marino says there's a reason why Brown is keeping his disc what impact does kamla Harris have down ticket in this race oh it helps me tremendously so maybe Scranton Joe had a little bit of credibility here in Ohio San Francisco CA absolutely does not yeah Marino has been so aligned with Trump that he even cut a 2022 ad accusing big Tech of rigging the 2020 election President Trump says the election was stolen and he's right but why did you decide to do that in the primary cut an ad saying the election was stolen well it said that it was rigged like I just said because it was true do you think that Biden was legitimately elected he's legitimately the worst president of the United States absolutely legitimately elected 26:03 legitimately the worst president of the United States his his reign of terror in America is almost over to defy the odds Democrats planning a familiar Playbook hammering Marino on abortion absolute pro-life no exception you still support a 15we federal abortion ban well ban is a word that the media and the Democrats use I've never said the word ban if you had to vote for 15we restriction would you do that yeah Common Sense restriction sure Brown meantime has been on the defensive on immigration Ohio knows illegal immigration is a problem and brown is the cause as he criticizes the GOP for blocking a bipartisan border security Bill we're here to call the president to step up brown also blames the Biden team do you think that the Biden and Harris Administration have done a good job at the border I think presidents of both parties have failed at the border all as the GOP aims to remind voters of Brown's past rhetoric about Trump we have a president who's racist do you stand by those past 27:00 rhetoric there there's no room in American politics for divisive rhetoric uh and I will continue to speak out against the kind of divisive rhetoric we've seen so this is the tightest of tight robes right here of course he is trying to keep make clear that he is not aligned with Comm Harris although he voted with the Democratic agenda the bident Harris agenda for you know most of the time while they were in office aligning themselves with them but can this work can this strategy work that he's trying to employ here he does have a brand in his State a blue car brand he's been in the fixture in public life for some time I mean he's doing exactly what he should do if he wants to try to uh hang on once again Ohio uh when we started covering politics was a swing state it's increasingly become uh a red State and it's been trending that way and uh I think what you heard um uh from the Republican side the San Francisco commo label you're going be hearing that a lot in a lot of States not just Ohio in Virginia you're going to be hearing that you know um and is is ticket splitting is that just doesn't happen anymore so if if my memory is correct 28:05 there have been 69 Senate races that have taken place when Trump was at the top of the ticket in 2016 and 2020 and all but one the same party won the Senate and the presidential Susan Collins race correct that's the one exception it's tough math if anyone's going to do it I do feel like shared Brown is one of the Senators that appears the best position to do it I mean when I covered his the last time he was up he does have his own brand in that state that can't be denied I think that what's interesting is that one of the things I think that could be the most effective for him is his argument on abortion because we saw where when there was you know the initiative there in Ohio that there was high turnout it was last year it was last year it was an an off year but that's something that could potentially mobilize more voters in me meantime Bernie Marino very much aligning himself with Trump speaking at the convention he would not say if Biden was a legitimately elected president right that's and that may appear in ads I mean I don't know where this is going to go right shared Brown's been pretty effective at winning that state again and again this may be really tough 29:05 because this is a presidential year if this was you know 2022 and he was on the ballot right everybody was expecting Democrats to lose they didn't why because there was a reaction by voters to Republican extremism to political violence but also to abortion that was the first midterm after the dobs ruling this is the first presidential after the dobs ruling I think we all believe the electorate will be much different in a presidential than in a midterm when smaller more at voters voting here you're going to have all the Trump voters coming out that may be enough for Bernie Mareno but this is also still the first time we're seeing a presidential take place in this environment with the abortion issue really you know top of mind for a lot of Voters um so it's going to be interesting kind of messaging they run down the stretch well Trump go Ohio we do know he's going to Montana this coming week to help John John tester's opponent Tim sheii so he's clearly got the down ticket races on his mind at least there all right coming up what is Harris's electoral path to to 270 har an sitting right here is going to be at the magic 30:02 wall and Harris and yet to be named running mate will hit the road this week hitting seven Battleground states that could give us some Clues on how they view their path to the White House but what is that realistic path for Harris one person may have that answer and he's standing right here expectations are high yeah Harry enton of course here at the magic wall okay so we hear a lot about the different paths rust belt versus Sun Belt let's start with the Rust Belt what does that path look like for yeah you know you we'll start off with the Rust Belt you know or as I call it the Great Lake Battlegrounds and what we see here is look the manth is pretty simple this was Joe Biden's path to 270 win in Pennsylvania win in Michigan win in Wisconsin you could lose in those sunb Battleground States Georgia Arizona Nevada which obviously Joe Biden carried last time around and you get to exactly 270 electoral votes of course you have to carry that second congressional district in NE briska it's the thinnest of margins but the would work the question is is the polling there to 31:00 support it well take a look at this I mean these were just tight polls this were polls that were taken by Fox News after kamla Harris became the likely Democratic nominee she's obviously the presumptive Democratic nominee look how tight these races are in Wisconsin all within the margin of eror all within the look look at this we have it up here no clear leader no clear leader that's what you should take away from this no clear leader one in Wisconsin tied in Michigan tied in Pennsylvania so the fact is this pathway is wide open for KLA Harris but it is a tight pathway I'll be interested to see as we get more polls going forward whether or not these polls shift a little bit more in a direction as the national polling seems to have done but the fact is this pathway wide open it was closing for Biden but it is wide open for Harrison still no margin for air no margin for so then what about the Sun Belt and how realistic is that yeah okay so let's talk about the Sun Belt pathway all right let's say in this particular case we're actually going to give all of those great lake or Rust Belt Battlegrounds to Donal Trump we're talking about all these they're all pink on the top of your screen so what can Harris do well she could win in Nevada she wins in Arizona she wins in Georgia 32:07 and then you might notice here she also needs to win in North Carolina in order for this sun Bel path to work and of course no Democrat has carried the state of North Carolina since Barack Obama back in 2008 so it's a very tight pathway

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