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COMMENTARY The Coffee Klatch ...August 3rd 2024 ROBERT REICH and HEATHER LOFTHOUSE Kamala's on fire! Vance getting fired? PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEfljFEe83I Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Peter Burgess
Kamala's on fire! Vance getting fired? \| The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich Robert Reich Aug 3, 2024 737K subscribers The Coffee Klatch with Robert Reich Big wins this week for Kamala Harris and Olympic Team USA... Big humiliations for the Trump-Vance team and their deeply weird agenda.... Heather Lofthouse of @imcivicaction and I dive into it all in the Coffee Klatch. Please pour yourself a cup and join us. Transcript 0:00 and it is the Saturday coffee clutch with Heather loft house and yours truly Robert rush and Heather what do we have on store today let's discuss comm's momentum oh I love it it's good um Trump and Vance's stumbles well I I like the stumbles and then I know and then let's get into the economy we have to and the Olympics okay all related all important yeah uh K you know this is the second week of kamla Harris Harris's extraordinary uh extra the presidential race when I say extraordinary I mean we've never seen anything like this uh in the month of July now remember she's only been running for one basically two weeks almost two weeks month of July 310 million dollar biggest ever one- Monon Hall in presidential campaign history compared to July for Trump all of July 100 137 yeah 137 I mean but that's just one 1:01 indicator uh and it's probably not the most important indicator but 2third of those donations were firsttime donations uh you've got a lot of people people who have never donated before people who are getting into a campaign who have never got in before um and the excitement is palpable we talked last week about how the importance of excitement and momentum in campaigns it cannot be overstated and we're seeing it and tens of thousands thousand of new volunteers coming in as well and this is all about not just kamla but it's also let's face it about finally people being excited about a candidate in contrast to Donald Trump there is still this huge anti-trump feeling out there and what she is doing wonderfully well is that she is talking about Trump as a convicted felon she's talking about her own uh ability and her own agenda and 2:02 she's putting it all together in a package that seems really very very good now the question is how long the momentum is going to stay I know good question and also I remember holding our breaths and thinking is Biden going to pass the torch what's going to happen and then is he going to pass is he stop I know no I don't want to be I look at I am still enormously grateful oh it's incredible and there will be yeah and people are going to continue to talk about it and at the convention EXC me for interrupting and I hate to interrupt I never interrupt but at the convention which is 2 and2 weeks the democratic convention uh I think there's going to be an extraordinary outpouring of affection for Biden as there should be as there should be there's been a lot of first and a lot of big progress when people a didn't think it would happen and B he's been up against a lot I mean also some faults and he needs to have done better in some areas but what I was going to say is here we were all thinking he should have dropped out sooner or this if only this had happened before 3:00 why is it so late but it's interesting we're in this time crunch and it's kind of it feels like a positive it is interesting Force if he I mean maybe maybe there was some not that he intended it this way but some uh sort of Cosmos it was working in the favor of the Democrats in terms of Biden waiting this late uh this long yeah uh there being a Sprint you know 90 now what is it now 95 days 94 days uh and that Sprint itself adds to the excitement and the enthusiasm we've all got to get behind KLA Harris yeah there's not a lot of time so the when is her VP pick coming tomorrow some people say yes well she has made it clear that she's going to be touring with the VP next week Tuesday rally uh so uh the V VP pick I mean it could be even as we speak should I check my phone don't check your phone no I I've arranged for the campaign to call me immediately yeah we're good in fact the VP is going to call me so who's o 4:00 that would be fun um can you put on speaker phone who who's it going to be uh I still uh think that Mark Kelly uh is in the lead but uh the fellow for who is the governor of Minnesota uh really has come up dramatically Tim Walls Tim Walls is a u you know he shares with Mark Kelly uh he looks older Mark Kelly looks older but Mark Kelly is only what a year or two older than KLA Harris but they they both have a gravitas because of they're looking older and also because they are uh there's a kind there's a certain uh quality that they both have of of being older I I mean this is not an agees experience this is not ages comment U now I know Mark Kelly I know that he under the most extreme urgent and really awful circumstances I was there shortly after Gabby was uh was shot uh he is so 5:01 even tempered he is so absolutely able to Think Through even in the worst crisis exactly what needs to be done an astronaut one would hope so yeah there there that steadiness there's a quality and I don't know uh Tim wal but I but I've heard he has that qu that quality too and maybe that's needed maybe that's useful uh or it's perceived as being needed you know I don't think it is needed uh but the perception is everything uh and uh this this campaign although there is huge momentum uh for kamla Harris Let's Not fool ourselves uh the Trump Vance campaign is throwing whatever it can at Kell Harris there's still a huge and growing uh sort of uh gender gap in terms of voting oh big time yeah I think so first of all and what you mean by that is women who say they will vote for comma versus 6:00 men who say they will vote for Trump so the latest I saw was in the New York Times Sienna poll and it was 14-point lead for comma in terms of women 17-point lead in terms of trump among men that is 31 points and that is bigger than it was in 2016 I mean that is a big number and then Quinn aak said it was even bigger in their latest that 31 Point Gap uh that gender political Gap uh is probably the biggest I've ever I ever remember uh now again again the fact that it's bigger than it was when Hillary Clinton ran against Donald Trump is saying quite a lot but also remember the Trump Advance ticket is very explicitly organizing itself around Macho men and it's organizing itself around uh almost anti-women I mean look look what Vance said about cat ladies I mean that just you know he said it a few years ago but it was re resur 7:00 and he did not back off he dug himself in even deeper this week but that doubling down is what his boss does right that's a trump move yes but Trump can get away with it I mean everybody says yes Trump doubles down Trump doubled down on his comment about uh you know KLA Harris not being really black you know she suddenly became black well that's absolute baloney horrific this it's horrific uh but he doubles down on it and everybody kind of says well that's Trump but when Vance doubles down he can't do it in exactly the same way because people don't know Vance yeah U and I think Vance is digging a deeper and deeper hole from himself not just on the cat lady comment but on a lot of comments that are resurfacing that he is trying to defend so yeah he seems to be flip-flopping too right now what is I mean is there a chance that Trump would dump him I think there is I mean Trump loves to do something that is sort of uh counterintuitive and surprising I hate 8:02 it though cuz it would get so much play well it would but he's but you know Trump is also thinking about counterprogramming of course and the with the Democratic Convention coming up in two and a half weeks uh Trump is thinking well what can I do that is going to grab the attention kamla Harris has the the new vice president she's going to grab a lot of attention she has momentum she has excitement uh you know I'm she has good retorts to him when he comes out against her I mean she holds her own and has great sound bites and rallies people and they mem her and she had a huge rally I mean 40,000 people uh these are and and Trump is seething obviously so one way he grabs back attention would be maybe to drop Vance and say you're fired equ the equivalent uh and put in I mean if he said it that way no he wouldn't say it that way but put in uh at least stonic for example some some lady uh who is you know as right right wi As Trump on many of the 9:02 Maga issues now I'm just saying it's possible wow this is fascinating well I hope he doesn't do it for a couple reasons one is I don't want him to get all that attention two is I think it would probably be a smarter strategic move because Vance is just not impressive right now he's not helping him I mean I mean I think people who already supported Trump we know this who are part of the base are like okay there's that guy V was put it clearly to reinforce the base uh but it turns out that Vance is not only bad in terms of repar and coming up with responses to uh what what should have been clearly uh anticipated criticisms but he's also not well-liked I mean even in Ohio it turns out most people in Ohio don't like the guy uh you know his his personality is kind of kind of uh Mercurial and all over the place weird to use this phrase that so many people are using this 10:00 phrase actually comes from Tim U walls walls he was the first one to use weird uh that's one of the reasons he's he's all you know he's so popularly that's who we were giving because because he says weird and suddenly people say yes that's it that's that characterizes that's the best adjective to characterize Trump and Vance weird I mean it's a kind adjective kind kind it's Kinder than I'd like to I'd like to come up with a couple other myself but it is it's just bizarre and then you have Vance who's Pro lenon now which would be weird but we know that that's because he's a big supporter of Rumble which is a rival of Google and she's trying to take down Google in some I think that I think there was some point and maybe maybe Vance is going to try to get back to this of economic populism that he is the voice of the people of the working class like Trump has tried to be even though he gives big tax breaks only to the rich and to Big 11:00 corporations uh and to the oil companies uh a billion dollars says Trump and I'll I'll you can you know I'll get rid of all the environmental regulations uh but I think that this is is ultimately not working uh and it does create an opportunity for Harris yeah uh and whoever her vice president is to be the economic populists uh naturally I mean it should come naturally this is what Democrats ought to be not the cultural populist not blaming a deep State and and immigrants and everybody was different uh but really uh blaming uh the powers that have extraordinary wealth I mean Elon Musk for example you want somebody to blame I mean look at what Elon Musk and uh and all of the the Bros you know the the Silicon C Bros yeah all the CE Bros the C Bros H okay speaking of CE Bros and jobs in Silicon Valley so yesterday we had a jobs report how's the e economy doing what does it mean well the economy 12:01 is slowing Heather and there is always a lag between what the FED does in terms of this time raising interest rates very high and the economy slowing we knew the economy was going to slow uh the question is is it slowing so fast slowing so fast that we risk a recession and I think the risk is growing of a recession so the FED ought to I mean it should never have waited this long to lower interest rates it's it's clear this going to lower interest rates maybe in September uh but that may be maybe slightly too late to avoid the results of rising Unemployment uh and slow slow down in jobs so how does this affect the election well it may it may not help I mean the the one problem that I think kamla Harris and her Vice President are going to face is the same problem that uh Biden and Harris faced and that is an economy that most people say is not good 13:02 because the prices I pay for food and for rent are skyrocketing and they still haven't come down and I have multiple jobs and no savings I and I and I have uh you know I I am dependent on a paycheck and if the paycheck doesn't come in if I don't have a paycheck I am really in terrible condition and that uh that combination uh is suffered by too many people in this country now again kamla Harris if she came down and she said well one of the reasons that food prices are so high and energy prices are so high uh and rent so high is because of the consolidation of these industries into the hands of just a few that don't have to lower prices because they don't face competition uh in other words we're talking about corporate power here uh if KLA Harris were to really make that kind of statement it would the Republicans couldn't come would not come back will she I don't I wonder I wonder let's see 14:01 I wonder I mean that would be uh she won't in the next two weeks but closer to at the convention her her acceptance speech what a terrific time to really turn economic populist I know but you've been saying this for a long time well but I'm not running I know well I know but could someone listen already it's my question would you be my vice president if I ran by the way no way I mean if anyone it would be yours I have you run I'll be your vice president how about that you couldn't pay I mean the pressure these people I don't I don't I mean my my heart actually does go out I've seen up close presidents people running for the presidency and you won't you wouldn't believe the pressure I mean I mean I can try to believe it and I well I mean I was thinking this the other day Simone biles four years ago in the Tokyo she said the pressure is so much just for my own uh she was she was wise enough to think about her own uh psych psychoanalytic health and she said I I can't do this 15:01 I'm not going to do this and you know JD Vance said how weak of her and I thought America we you know prided strength or some horrible quote well also the men of America or the white men or the white Vance Trump men of America you know it's all about strength and it's all about uh but a very very limited view of strength but Simone biles comes back uh and it's a it's an extraordinary it's an extraordinary Victory oh it's so great and the women's gy gymnastic team is the most diverse uh and they're helping each other and they you know they and they're winning and they exemplify the best of America I know did you see her fabulous tweet I think it was yesterday morning so Trump keeps talking about so-called black jobs and everyone's saying what do you mean by that and she said on Twitter I love my black job it's with after pictures of her you know being the goat the greatest of all time this is again a reference to Trump's disastrous uh response to black women 16:03 journalists he doesn't know how to respond to strong black women he doesn't know where how to respond to strong women um and this is this is his you know this for the last two weeks he's been flailing around trying to come up with some purchase something that he can throw at kamla Harris and she refuses to allow him to do it she throws it right back at him I know which is great to see it was so important and so you know going back to the olymp ipcs I couldn't help feel the analogy I mean of course it's it stretches the analogy Beyond U beyond what should be stretched but here you have in Simone biles you know a a woman a black woman young black woman who against all the odds is doing extraordinarily right and a team that is diverse and a team that that is winning and uh and USA and they're holding a flag not like Alo put up the flag the alos you know with their upside down flag but a flag of the United States 17:02 that that you can be proud of that we're all proud of I know I'm going to Philly and I think I'm going to take my kid to see Betsy Johnson's Museum whatever it is's her name Johnson no what's her name no the one who made the flag Betsy Johnson yeah was who was it it was Betsy Ross Betsy Ross Betsy Ross Betsy Johnson's you know who Betsy Johnson was Betsy johnon was her maiden name no but do you know who Betsy Johnson was she designed clothing she's Howard Head Howard Johnson's wife wait so no but I'm going to I said to Oliver I said you get to see where the first American flag was sewn it's going to be cool it is going to be cool anyway so all Philadelphia and a summer in Philadelphia I mean as uh as has been said you know first prize uh second prize is two days in Philadelphia first prize is three days in Philadelphia so good yeah but so have you been watching the Olympics uh yes yes it's been very 18:02 swimming so gymnastics obviously gymnastics I watch I don't swimming I didn't really I like to watch it all I like to watch the weird ones I like to watch dress I like to watch handball I like the three onree basketball is weird I like the beach volleyball I like the Judo wow you are really I I'm a wrestler I'm a high school wrestler you are you're a high school or you were a high school wrestler that's just weird I was School Resler yes and I did not get to the Olympics darn it have you ever been to an Olympics never you haven't I went in Atlanta whenever that was years and years ago have you ever been to a political convention no well listen I know you've been to a few we've talked about that it's like a it's like an Olympics it's like an Olympics that's funny not no but anyway so the Olympics it's been amazing to watch first of all all this talent and then you know it's getting so much coverage speaking speaking of corporate monopolies by the 19:00 way it's interesting to try and watch it you can only watch it in one good place you know NBC and peacock all that um so anything else that we haven't covered I'm trying to think well there's a lot of stuff going on but I really uh between the Olympics and uh what's happened to Trump and Vance this past week and the surge of for the continued surge for kamla Harris I continue to feel great oh that's good I like if you feel great I feel hopeful well you should feel hopeful on your own but you're an optimist you're a pessimistic Optimist no no I'm a pessimistic Optimist that's right I'm a uh what what what was sort of a a cautious nauseously optimistic nauseously optimistic and on that on that note we are going to let you all be cautiously and nauseously optimistic this week uh take care of yourself uh enjoy what we are now enjoying in terms of the victory and The Surge and the excitement and the 20:01 momentum but also bear in mind and this is something I meant to to kind of talk about this is not going to last uh that is this is going to be one of the closest elections on record uh we are going to next week or very soon talk about what happens when the Republicans even if kamla Harris and a running mate win the Republicans that is Trump and Vance or whoever it is going to be Trump and uh Elise stefanic when they contest the election uh what happens when you have all of these all of these election deniers who are now in the house uh what is going to happen what they they push through the 12th Amendment yeah let's save this for another let no and I don't want to also this is this is still a week to be remembered a positive week so have a good one and we will see you next Saturday [Music]

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