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US POLITICS 2024 TIMES RADIO WITH RICHARD SCHIFF Trump destroys the Republicans' chance of winning \| Richard Schiff PLAY YOUTUBE VIDEO Original article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGkxuOVw8DM Peter Burgess COMMENTARY Times-Radio-talks-with-Richard-Schiff-27083-02-d.jpg Peter Burgess
Trump destroys the Republicans' chance of winning \| Richard Schiff Times Radio Jul 4, 2024 873K subscribers ... 58,236 views ... 2.5K likes “It’s all a game to these guys. He’s already stacked the Supreme Court withe morons and he gets to win.” It would be a “stunning act of patriotism” to remove Trump, says actor Richard Schiff. 📻 Listen to Times Radio - https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio 📍 Subscribe to our channel - / @listentotimesradio 🗞 Subscribe to The Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/subscribe/... 📲 Get the free Times Radio app https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio/how-... Transcript 0:00 Republicans are just as idiotic for for allowing Trump to become the candidate because right now after Biden performed the way he did if they had anyone else especially a younger version of a GOP you know um model candidate um as much as they are um unpleasant to even think about they would win in a landslide over Biden right now yeah right have you um have you learned anything at any of these biohacking conferences that might help Joe Biden out in this presidential campaign um uh yeah he could certainly use an an infusion of um youth feeling kind of uh biohacks um I just had one at the at the conference today which made me feel you know energized really uh he should have done that before the debate um uh but no yeah that that's a 1:05 it's it's such a tough place we are in in our country and and apparently it's being mirrored in some places around the world uh it's a scary time but it's it's um and we're not in a good place and I'm I'm a fan of Joe Biden or I was when you know I campaigned with him back in 06 when he was running for the ' 08 election and we're friends I um it's safe to say and uh you know I don't know how I feel about him running again and um you know and here comes the moral question of you know when is it time to pass the torch and I think part of it is the Democrats are very very scared of not winning this election and felt that Biden because he had defeated uh the other guy once before was the best bet and no one really emerged 2:00 but I think the you know the incumbent has to has to say it's time uh and then candidates May might have emerged that um that are winnable I don't know it's I don't know if it's too late and I don't know um I the out the outcome is very scary what what what's coming up in the next few months is very scary to me does it speak to a broken system of some kind that there's no clearer or better succession plan for this source of circumstance um yeah uh we seem to have have figured out a whole lot um way back when this experiment started a couple hundred years ago and plus um but it had didn't answer every question right and and term limit the term limit of two terms certainly seemed to have addressed 3:00 that after Roosevelt was elected four times um and we fixed that issue so that we have no king likee um person in the white house but uh no I don't think any I don't think the forefathers um founding fathers uh anticipated anyone this old uh ever being president or anyone there is something in place when some when the president is incompetent I think it's the invoking the was it the 25th amendment was it the 25th um yeah it is of course it is which we which we tried in the last uh in the last regime uh and it takes yeah the bigger the bigger issue to me is not so much whether Biden uh can be can win again the issue is that even if he does win we're in the same position as we are in today which is that Congress is hostile 4:02 and um the only time in American history where true progress was made in terms of domestic issues was when um Congress was dominated by one party or the other so Roosevelt had a 60% majority in in in Congress when when the New Deal happened and LBJ Lyndon Johnson had a 60% majority and that 60% is important because it overrides the filibuster and and laws can get passed without obstruction and there's so much obstruction now and and and so divisive and polarized that Congress is has become inept and and in a uh and you know pretty soon we're going to be see fist fights in in you know in the House of Representatives and come close to that already that to me is as big an issue as to as as who is going to be sitting in 5:01 the Oval Office you know um because nothing's going to get done that isn't by presidential order uh you know uh we we have to avoid at all costs in my opinion uh Trump getting back into the White House simply because he's already destroyed many of the pillars of foundational elements of our democracy and um and that's going to just get worse and he's going to do it even more and the Supreme Court just back um you know by by ruling that the president is immuned to certain crimes pretty much is what they what they said um it's it's a it's it's just not a good place we're just not in a place it'll be nice to have uh and the Republicans are just as idiotic for for allowing Trump to become the candidate because right now after Biden performed the way he did if they had any anyone else especially a younger version of a 6:03 GOP you know um model candidate um as much as they are um unpleasant to even think about they would winning a landslide over Biden right now right if it's anyone in the middle who's somewhat intelligent and somewhat you know uh presentable to the public uh and their agenda is is more hidden like it used to be in the old days because then they would win in the landslide uh and in many ways I think we are have we have just unveiled the curtain you know we this is who we are this is who we've been and now the ugly truth is just apparent for everyone to see you know uh it's another way to look at it but the Republicans are moronic for not finding a candidate that that that is viable to a democracy they 7:05 would have killed in this election I I just don't get it both parties are just dumb what what a place to be in you know I was thinking Richard I uh you mentioned invoking the 25th Amendment and obviously I started rumaging through my my West Wing archive and when that happens in The West Wing uh Toby's colleague will describes it as a stunning Act of patriotism which which is um obviously in a different context it's kind of you know personal crisis for for president Bartlett in the westwing but it's an interesting phrase isn't it a stunning Act of patriotism to remove yourself as president in the interest of the country yeah is it are you asking me if I agree that yeah do you think it is do you think in in reality would would it be a stunning Act of patriotism I mean I think it's all relative to the circumstances but you know um certainly had had Republicans voted uh along with Democrats um for impeachment and then 25th wouldn't have been necessary that that is a stunning Act of patriotism of course it is you 8:06 know I mean you have a a someone who's now been convicted as a felon who was committing felonies in the in the Oval Office and uh you know when I I grew up uh and I was alive when Nixon uh was impeached and he resigned instead of being convicted by the Senate but the Senate would have convicted him Republicans would have joined Democrats to convict the president um for uh for violating his oath of office you know and and the fact that that's not even possible now is an indication as to how Brook and we are you know that the this if Trump becomes president again he will have complete immunity to persecute his enemies to um enrich his his own businesses um to align with the nefarious interests 9:04 around the world like Putin and just enrich himself and just win the game because it's all a game to these guys they don't really there's no ideology just a game and you know he gets to win if he gets elected again you know he's already stacked the Supreme Court with morons and um you know he gets to win and that's what we're going to allow to happen if we if if if is elected yeah so is it a stunning Act of patriotism yeah to remove um someone like him yeah is it a stunning Act of P patriotism to not vote him in in the first place yeah that's patri my opinion yeah very what about Joe Biden would it be a stunning Act of patriotism if he stepped down now yeah I I I actually I'm sorry to say that yeah I think it I think it would be provided that um we can find a viable candidate uh to replace him I think 10:05 that's the issue yeah I think people if I think if he has an inclination at all to say to admit that he might not be up if he's if he's up for it now he might not be up for it in a year or two uh I think people are probably talking him out of it because you know they're too scared of of what another candidate would would mean to the tck you know to to the likelihood of M of keeping the Oval Office in the Democratic um you know side of things I think they're scared and you can't operate from fear and you know um you know you you I and I don't know who it would be honestly I I don't know who it would be Gavin Nome has too many weaknesses as governor of California you know kamla certainly isn't very popular the vice president and um either one of them 11:03 would have reamed Donald Trump in a debate though you know um certainly Gavin Newsome would have and you know you just kind of wish that he was there to to do battle uh on that stage but California is a mess so how do you how do you I don't know I'm no expert you know I played an expert on TV but I really don't have the answers and I don't have Aaron sorin writing for me to give me the answers I think you've got more answers than you than you think actually I really do uh because one of my thoughts is is on the broken system that you describe and you know I don't think the US is system is the only one that has been broken over the last few years I think you know there is a kind of outbreak of broken systems if I can put it like that and and I I try to work out why that is is about quality of people or or ambition of people and and people's kind of priorities are in the wrong place and and what fixes that is it about a candidate that can that can 12:01 fix a system or is it actually just a whole fundamental change that needs to happen and how does that happen I don't know it's one of those sadly sadly um you know human beings have shown the capacity for um Monumental change only after an utter and complete and total disaster yeah right we won't really change our attitude towards the climate until a tidal wave knocks over the Empire State Building you know it just won't happen we we're making incremental changes that will be you know on a governmental basis will be removed as if Trump becomes president for instance we've made some progress Biden past was was able to implement certain um policies in that regard that were that are helpful they're not Solutions but they're helpful they'll be reversed the day he Trump gets into office you know so 13:06 um and I I just think I don't know what to think I I I um you know where um there's there's so much dissatisfaction I think the world's coming off of Trauma from from Co and and and there's a lot of disconnected people that were even more disconnected during the pandemic and haven't regained the connect connectivity to their Community to the world I'm guessing you know um I I just know that there's a there's a sense of misery um in my country or dissatisfaction or you know what about me ISM um you know and if you look at the numbers they're not horrible there's inflation but unemployment's down to what 3% or something like that and you 14:03 know the stock market is still skyrocketing and you know um uh things are a little harder because of the environment there is more homelessness the cities are are less violent even though media is promoting the fact that there might be more violent but the numbers defy that you know and and I think the biggest thing is that we we don't trust our information you know and we have to take sides as to where we get our information because we know it's biased and if it's going to be biased then we want you know we want this we want this to be our source because they'll make it biased to make me feel good you know as opposed to seeking the truth there's no dialectic anymore there's no you know if you have I think that the basis of our legal system and the basis of our democracy was compromised right I 15:04 mean not the legal system but it's two opposing positions you know to two opposing ideas and they come together and then a better idea comes out of that and uh that kind of happened in in some stretches in our in our history of our of our country and it doesn't exist anymore now it's two two oppositional ideas or forces come together and Destroy attempt to destroy each other and therefore destroy whatever is buil is built between them you know so and we're we're witnessing it you know I think that you know with from the top down the attitude and behavior of everyday citizens in America has devolved into Trump trumpism you know get I want what I want and I don't care what it does to you or anybody else and you feel that you feel that the way you 16:03 do business with people it's like people you know there's there's no um it doesn't seem to be as much of an effort to to serve the community and to serve the better the betterment of of of the whole um and it's all me what about me ISM and you know and when when the person who's the most famous and in the position of the most power the most powerful position in the world they say is of that ilk where you know he could care less about the ramifications and the consequences of his actions as long as it serves him uh then the rest of us you know tend to emulate that I think I don't know yeah I'm rambling because there's not there is nothing to actually say about this stuff it's just it's just mindboggling I love the fact that Democratic pundits and and policy people 17:05 to use as many peas as I can find um uh are still hopeful and are still working and are still out on the street and Grassroots in it and um determined to to make something positive out of it this all I I envy them I I don't know how they do it but you know and I'm going to end up emulating some of that the closer we get to the election but I I don't I don't know how they do it um well with all of that in mind how's this for an uplift how's this for an uplifting conversation I'm trying to find the Redemption Richard I'm I know well me too let me know if you find it it's always good to get your thoughts that is for sure I um I don't know I I suppose there is frustration and there is misery and there is difficulty but you still see people who are willing to serve you know and perhaps actually there is a historic thing here where it 18:03 has happened before and therefore it can happen again that people put Community First and put Public Service First and all of these things go away again and perhaps this is just a cycle that we happen to be living through right night yeah that's the that's the hopeful way to think about it and that's something that I will remind you know people if we're in a if I'm in a conversation yeah uh you know because we certainly the Civil War was worse in terms of when our country was polarized in 196 in 1968 you know um and the war in Vietnam stuff that I was alive for certainly felt like it was an existential crisis for this for this country um and so yeah we have been there before and uh uh and and you know when nion was elected it seemed like it was the end of the world when Reagan was elected it seemed like it was the end of the world and it wasn't so you know maybe we are stronger than than we than it looks like we are but you 19:04 have someone now who's trying to break it all just destroy it all and that's the issue Nixon was bending the rules a little bit but you know basically believed in the tenets of democracy as did Reagan it it seemed to me um and Trump doesn't you know so that's what that's the scary part that you have someone who might be in the center of power who who only knows how to destroy he's never built a thing in his life and that's scary you know but you know it's a lot easier for an eight-year-old to step all over a sand castle and destroy it and it's a lot quicker than bu than building the sand castle in the first place right it sounds like what you're saying is Bartlett for America um yeah well be nice um if if 20:01 there were people in in the position of power who actually wanted to leave the world a better place than how they found it and I think that's why people were attracted to those characters on The West Wing is that they certainly had good intentions they might not have achieved very much if you really look at what the Bartlett Administration was you know uh what they accomplished it wasn't a lot you know there was no peace between in in Israel and Palestine and Pak Palestine there was no peace between Pakistan and India um the domestic issues were still uh prevalent there were still homeless there was Medicare had not been solved you know so and it was one of the great things to me about what um what we did and what Aaron sorin wrote is that we you know compromise was the best we could do and we often lost and that's the reality of of government and um you know 21:00 uh and he celebrated that um and if you have the good intentions you can incrementally improve uh certain situations and certain policy but um you're going to lose a lot one the I think the moment that defined my character more than any was a flashback for me as an actor was a flashback when we were shooting um New Hampshire and I was at and Toby was at bar smoking a cigar and drinking a scotch and there was a woman down the down the bar who said U you know are you one of those political operatives and Toby goes yeah and she goes have you ever won anything and I remember I as Toby took a really long pause trying to think about whether I had actually won anything or not and then coming to the realization that I had never won a thing and I said no like it was a surprise to me and and that defined to me who he was he was 22:04 someone who was going to fight um and winning or losing was irrelevant because he had to join the fight and if he won which he did with Bartlett finally great but that's not the driving issue and that's I think why people love that character so much and other people in the West Wing that's not the case now now winning is every everything and um you know and I think that's why we're in this position going back to Biden is like winning is the most important thing and uh they're too scared to to go any other route yeah I I we my my wife and I are in Helsinki Finland I've never been to the Nordic countries before it's a quite it's quite interesting and people here are very nice I think I've heard I've I've read studies where the happiest people in the world are from are from Finland um and it's not true I can just point that no people here are very nice and they're 23:04 very healthy uh and they eat well and we haven't had bad meals since we've been here but we're here for the biohacking conference um uh hosted by teu Arena and uh I've been asked uh by someone by people to do this show uh reality show for lack of a better word non-narrative show about um longevity and it's called Richard chiff lives forever and if I live up to the title um the show will last for a very long time um and we're we're we are uh investigating I am from the perspective of someone who's not a billionaire someone who's not a PhD from MIT who's not a scientist um and trying to uh decipher and sift through a lot of this new technology and information and and tools and science uh related 24:03 to uh which is helped by the the the the um the presence now of AI uh that analyzes all this information um uh that is intended to help people live longer and and there have longer Health spans in which they live healthier for longer so that that it's just living longer on a attached to a tube in a in a hospital bed but it's living longer in Optimal Health so I in a fun way we're trying to uh sip through all this information and disseminate it to normal people like you and me who uh who don't have a billion dollars and and a team of scientists and doctors um helping you uh look and feel and be younger uh and we're having fun it it's a blast so we were in Dallas and now we're in Helsinki and we've been to the British Virgin Islands and we're kind of 25:05 going all over the place we've been to Silicon Valley uh uh interviewing and talking to people with various te new technologies and such yeah would you like to live forever no it's contr you know we' had I've gotten into some very interesting conversations with um with uh bioengineers and science ssts and philosophers so far and the question comes up you know well a lot of a lot of people don't want to live forever and it's like no I don't um there's an economic uh moral question to it you know there's a there's a ethnic an eth an ethical moral question to it um and it's made me realize that the baby boomer generation which is already very greedy um a a massing an incredible amount of wealth relative to the other 26:01 Generations certainly it's true in America um and now they they they're having such a good time they don't want to go anywhere they don't want to pass pass the torch you know and scientists will say or at least some of them have said to me that it's the dying off of the previous generation that creates new discovery and creates new um science you know and if if it's that cycle uh and it it is a cycle of life and um someone I just spoke to very recently said I believe in death he said he goes and we should be celebrating it and not afraid of it and we should be celebrating it like we celebrate birth and he has no desire to live forever he's very happy living the life that's that he that's provided to him by whomever and um it's a very it's a really interesting question I I have not lived in a in a in 27:01 a very um optimal um and healthy way because I came into the world very very sick um and I've noticed a lot of the the um the leaders in this field the uh the people who have spearheaded this kind of new industry are people who have been very very sick at some point in their lives and their Journey has taken them to to to discover uh techniques to hack the way biohack the way in which we can regain Health um I find that very interesting and then there are people that are living not who have not been that sick who are living a normal life who don't have as much interest in the field so uh it's a it's it's it's interesting it there's an e economic and moral question to the idea of living longer than you know your your biology um intended you to live uh so 28:05 and we're exploring that as well as as the techniques I would like to certainly be healthier and more present in the world um you know which I can achieve when I'm acting but otherwise uh I'm I'm busy I think my physiology my medical physiology is is clogs my brain quite a bit you know and it takes a lot of exercise and focus to to to be in front of the camera on stage I'm able to do that but um that takes so much work on my part uh anyway it's fascinating and we're having a blast doing it's a lot of fun to to to research all this new stuff Richard thank you very much really really good to speak to you thanks for your time we got we we have to finish on a positive now yeah well what positive would you like to finish on I was hoping you would I was hoping you would cue me for that do you want to find it I think we all appeared out of my head I had some before I don't know what they are now yeah that's what I do to people yeah W welcome to my world like here why I try 29:08 I I try not to speak too much about these things but here's the positive here's the positive if in fact this longevity thing works we will be around long enough so that it will cycle back to exact that's EXA yeah very good point even if even if disaster happens we will somehow be around for when it all when all the flowers start to grow again and when democracy uh reaffirms itself as as a good thing and uh and and in the meantime we could all work to make that to make that happen and if we lose we lose we'll be like Toby if we lose we lose but let's let's join the fight

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