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About Wall Street

ANXIETY INDEX ... Most Americans distrust Wall Street

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My formal education included engineering, economics and accountancy ... but is now 50+ years out of date. I have tried to keep my thinking relevant by continuous update based on reality. Engineering (technology) is way more powerful than 50 years ago, and information technology is enabling the use of information by companies (and financial intermediaries) to game the system for profit and redistribution of wealth (upwards). Productivity means less work and less pay to produce the goods we need. More and more jobs are concerned with enabling the transfer of wealth from those with little wealth (e.g. student loans) to those who already have wealth (or liquidity). There are amazing possibilities for a better world, but this can never happen when the dominant metric is profit, stock market prices and GDP growth and metrics for the value of things that really matter (e.g. like parenting, elder care, environmental remediation, etc) are ignored because the metrics don't exist. Back in the 1960s when I was still in the UK, I had to draft a document about 'Doing Business in the United States' and I remember observing that you could not do business legally in the USA because even back then there were so many laws and regulations on the books that made it likely that anything you did was going to be unlawful ... but of course I did not understand then that this was by design and powerful lawyers could navigate the loopholes to make almost anything legal. Today, wealthy people have the tools to make more wealth ... but most people are poorly equipped to benefit from productivity ... and while there is a little bit of political talk about improving the system, there is little of substance that is new and there are no metrics to hold anyone accountable for anything that gets said!
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ANXIETY INDEX ... Most Americans distrust Wall Street


People walk down Wall Street in New York City. - Spencer Platt/Getty Images

Wall Street has been a big topic on the campaign trail this election season. Marketplace was curious what Wall Street means to you, so in our latest round of polling with Edison Research, we asked whether people think Wall Street does more to hurt or help the lives of most Americans.

Fifty-eight percent said Wall Street does more to hurt most Americans, and that included majorities from all political parties, and all racial groups—although black respondents and Democrats were more likely to give that answer.

One number stood out to us: 71 percent of people who said they fear not having enough money saved for retirement a lot also said they think Wall Street does more to hurt people. Of those who aren’t worried about retirement, only 44 percent said they distrust Wall Street.

In other words, the more worried you are about retirement, the less likely you are to think Wall Street is helping people in general. Is there a meaningful relationship between the two?

Lyric Crowder, age 18, is one of the people who responded to our poll and said she worries a lot about retirement and thinks Wall Street hurts more people. She just graduated from high school outside of Atlanta, Georgia, and makeup is her thing; she wants to start up her own YouTube channel doing makeovers once she has money to buy a good camera. But she has other plans too.

“I want makeup as a side job but I really want to be a veterinarian, a wildlife veterinarian,” she said in a phone interview with Marketplace. Crowder said Wall Street to her is mostly just a place full of dudes in suits. “I still kinda don’t know much about Wall Street, but I’ve seen the movie 'Wolf of Wall Street,' so I guess I have some type of knowledge of it.”

That said, she does have a succinct summary of her problem with Wall Street.

“The good stuff doesn’t really affect me, but the bad stuff could affect the entire nation,” she said.

At her age, Lyric Crowder’s a target market for disliking Wall Street — the Bernie Sanders generation, if you will. Majorities of people in every age group said Wall Street hurts people, but people ages 18-24 and 45-64 were more likely to say that.

Christina Greer, a professor of political science at Fordham, said people in that older age bracket might have formed those opinions because of the performance of their own savings.

“For a particular group of people they’re thinking about their pensions, for another group of people they’re thinking about their 401(k)s, but both of them are inextricably linked to Wall Street,” Greer said.

During the past few decades, retirement plans shifted from traditional pensions with set payouts to 401(k)s, where you pay into a personal investment account with no guarantees.

“The recession had a huge impact on retirement savings, and on other forms of wealth,” said Monique Morrissey with the Economic Policy Institute. She recently published a report showing 401(k)s mostly benefit the highest earners. That’s because middle- and low-income people may not have the tools to manage their investments successfully, or may not be able to afford to pay into the accounts at all.

And the recession decimated savings for many people, but lower-income people have recovered less of that wealth in the recovery. She said most working-age Americans have little to no money saved to retire, a problem that was compounded by the collapse of the housing market.

“At the same time that people’s 401(k) balances went south, their housing values also tanked,” she said. “Most people think they’re alone and they feel very anxious about that. They should feel anxious. But they’re not alone.”

And, go figure: In our poll, the wealthier people were, the more likely they were to say Wall Street does, in fact, help people—possibly because they are the people it helps.

Follow Lewis Wallace at @LewisPants.


By Lewis Wallace
July 05, 2016 | 5:09 AM
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