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Q&A: What happens if Greece leaves the euro?

A Greek exit from the euro could have wide-ranging consequences for other European countries.

COMMENTARY
There are a whole lot of good reasons why Greece should not exit the Euro area, and the Q&A following is a useful reminder of how complex it will be for an exit to be managed successfully. I have seen first hand the chaos associated with the ruin of the currency system in developing countries and post crisis situations in the course of my career and it is not a pretty sight. Hardly any of the issues flagged by Evi Pappa are easy to manage, and if they get out of hand there will be no vehicle as a medium of exchange and it will be chaos.

There is not a little irony in the present strength of the German economy relative to the weakness of the Greek economy, and the history of these two countries. Germany went through terrible austerity and a terrible devaluation of its currency in the aftermath of the First World War ... and in my view, memory of this informs German economic policy today at the highest levels. But, Chancellor Merkel in Germany is pushing Greece down the same path that made Gernmany so unstable in the 1930s and eventually enabled the rise of Adolph Hitler. An socially unstable Greece will not follow the German history that eventually led to war in Europe and eventually the Second World War ... but it will result in something that could be as bad or worse.

There is a huge part of the educated population of the world that is totally disgusted with the way financial, corporate and political leadership is performing at this time. I argue that the capitalist market economy has been going more and more off-track for a period of some 50 years, and it is time for a major rethink of policies, priorities and practices.

The modern capitalist market economy dominated by financial speculation is not an efficient way to allocate resources, but it is now the dominant financial force and the only one counts. The same economic models that created the US savings and loan fiasco, the Latin Amnerican and Asian financial meltdowns, the dot-com bubble and the housing mortgage catastrophe are still in play and leveraged more than ever. Meanwhile needs are unsatisfied around the world, and millions of educated people cannot find work. It is unhelpful for young people to be told to 'go get a job' when the corporate leadership and their bankers are doing everything in their power to minimize employment and increase profits without any consideration for the social and economic consequences.

Keep Greece in Europe and in the Euro Zone, and put people back to work and being paid doing work that needs to get done. The funding for this must come from the capitalist class that have the money ... in large part hidden. This is not taxation, but investment ... but also required by the authorities in order to fund the future. The idea is not new ... as a young child in England in the Second World War it was everyone's patriotic duty to invest in War Bonds to finance the winning of the war. Rich Greeks and rich Europeans should be called on to mobilize their capital in order to put people everywhere in Europe back to work.

At the same time people who have generous 'entitlements' should be called on to recirculate a good part of these funds so that people more in need of work and pay can be funded and brought into the economy in a useful way.

When I worked on 'planning' within a national economy, a sector or an area, I always started out with some understanding of what 'needs' existed in the society, and how these should be prioritized. The next question was what resources are available to satisfy these needs ... people, material and financial ... and what could be done to mobilize more resources where there were shortfalls. My experience was that in resource shortage situations ... almost all situations ... the incremental resources drive the priorities together with all sorts of personal agendas that enrich few at the expense of the rest. Sadly leadership let this happen ... over and over again ... and it became the norm rather than the exception. It is time for change.
Peter Burgess

Q&A: What happens if Greece leaves the euro? A Greek exit from the euro could have wide-ranging consequences for other European countries.

IMAGE Most Greeks say they want their country to remain in the eurozone [EPA]

Will Greece leave the euro - and if so, what would happen next?

The question has been bandied about for a few years now, but has gained more attention after Greek elections gave big boosts to parties opposed to the terms of the country's bailout by the European Union and International Monetary Fund.

Jörg Asmussen, a member of the European Central Bank's executive board, recently said that Greece must adhere to the bailout's terms - which require the Greek government to make additional cuts to public spending - if it wants to remain in the eurozone. Although most Greeks do want to stay in the eurozone, austerity measures, such as reducing the minimum wage and cutting pensions, are deeply unpopular.

Some analysts speculate that a Greek exit from the euro (or a 'Grexit', as it's been dubbed) could set off a chain reaction, causing economic panic in other peripheral eurozone countries such as Spain.

Al Jazeera's Sam Bollier spoke to Evi Pappa, an economics professor at the European University Institute, Florence, about the ramifications of Greece leaving the currency.

Sam Bollier: Can Greece be kicked out of the eurozone? If so, how would this happen?

Evi Pappa: You probably know that no document exists that provides information about how a country can be kicked out from the euro. The Maastricht Treaty [which eventually led to the adoption of the currency] has to be rewritten in order to have somebody kicked out of the euro.

SB: So it's more likely that Greece would voluntarily leave?

EP: That's the only way it can happen, because I don't think that the eurozone could take the responsibility of kicking Greece out of the euro.

SB: What would happen to other eurozone countries if Greece leaves the currency?

EP: If Greece was to leave the euro, then this would have indirect consequences on many other European countries. If Greece leaves the euro, it's going to default, obviously, on all its debt - which means that the banking system is going to be terribly affected by the default.

The issue is whether the European countries have liquidity ... If Greece does leave the euro, then would you, as an investor, put money in Spain, or in Portugal, or in Italy? Probably not. This means that somebody will have to serve liquidity for those countries. And if the ECB [European Central Bank] cannot do it, then the stability of the eurozone will be crucially questioned.

It's easy to say it's not costly to kick Greece out of the euro. Probably it's true. But the issue is what's next. I think that before talking about leaving the euro, we really have to think about the consequences.

SB: Which sectors of the Greek economy would benefit from leaving the euro? Which would be hurt?

EP: If Greece leaves the euro, it is going to be disastrous for Greece. I don't think that there's going to be any sector that will come out as a winner. Because what is going to happen is, if Greece is going to leave the euro, we will have to go back to some drachma or new drachma, or whatever you want to call it. Greece is going to call for likely repeated devaluations, which can be controlled or uncontrolled depending on who's going to be in the government. These devaluations are going to be by at least 50 per cent.

So one would think, well, maybe tourists are going to benefit because it's going to be a lot cheaper to go to Greece. And that's probably true. But can we grow out of tourism? No, because if tourism was the growth engine of the Greek economy, it would have served also as a panacea in the current situation. We need to have exports.

Now if Greece is going to leave the euro and devalue, it could be a good moment for foreign investment. But the issue is that Greece has developed issues of bad faith, ill-will and untrustworthiness in the past two years. This means that Greece has lost its credibility. So I don't see how any business can possibly gain from exiting the euro.

SB: Will Greek exporters gain from leaving the eurozone?

EP: Greece doesn't have a huge export market. We just export agricultural products. We have no significant exporting industry at the moment. The other things that we are exporting are services and tourism. Most of the businesses in Greece, they have loans in euros. So if Greece is to leave the eurozone, Greek loans will still be denominated in euros. It means that many Greek companies will go bankrupt. For me, Greece going out of the euro is like a disaster for my country.

SB: If Greek businesses were to default on their loans, would this affect banks in other European countries?

EP: I know for sure that it will in Cyprus, because Cypriot banks - like Bank of Cyprus, or Laiki [Bank] - are heavily invested in Greek debt and debt of Greek companies. They have over-lent, so they have liabilities of six times the Cypriot GDP. So you can imagine another Icelandic case emerging in the Mediterranean. They are going to be the immediate victims of everything going on in Greece.

SB: Logistically speaking, how difficult is it to take a currency out of circulation and introduce a new currency?

EP: Most commentators compare Greece with Argentina. But Greece is not Argentina because Argentina had the peso in circulation when it stopped the peg to the US dollar.

Greece doesn't have a currency at the moment. This means that Greece would have to bring the currency to circulate in the economy. And tactically speaking, you need at least four months to create a new currency. They will probably set an exchange between the new currency being circulated and the euro, then they will keep the banks closed for who knows how long, probably for some weeks, so that there's no bank run. And before banks are reopened, the new currency will have devalued, who knows by how much, relative to the initial announced exchange rate.

It will take time. It will not happen in one day, that's for sure.

SB: Will the results of the recent election in Greece make it more likely that the country will leave the euro?

EP: The Greek election results express the anger of the Greek population. They had somehow to punish the two political parties that have been in power the past 20 years. So they voted in anger and in protest, I guess.

But I think that now, most likely, elections are going to be redone in a month's time, more or less, and I think that people will be more wise now in voting. I think that the majority of Greek people do not want to leave the euro. I think that most of them realise that leaving the euro is going to be disastrous for Greece.

SB: Would switching to a new currency cause inflation?

EP: Of course. You would expect three things if Greece leaves the euro: inflation, devaluation, and banking collapse.

SB: Could this inflation be desirable?

EP: Inflation is sometimes good. But the problem is that Greece is not going to experience inflation. It is going to experience, most likely, hyperinflation. Hyperinflation is not good at any time.

SB: What would your advice to Greece be?

EP: The million-dollar question. What I would say is that it looks like Greece is facing a real tragedy. It is like we are condemned to die - like Antigone, in the tragedy of Sophocles. Antigone was condemned to be buried alive in a cave by Creon, and when the Chorus finally convinced Creon to save her life, a messenger arrives announcing that Antigone has hanged herself.

Modern Greece, like Antigone, is condemned to the austerity measures of the European Commission, burying it alive, and it looks like, when the Europeans come to her mercy, it might be too late - and Greece might commit suicide by deciding to leave the eurozone. I don't have a lot of hope for Greece.


Evi Pappa is a professor of economics at the European University Institute, Florence.

The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial policy.

Source: Al Jazeera


Evi Pappa ... Evi Pappa is a professor of economics at the European University Institute, Florence.
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