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Complementary Currency
Bitcoin

As Big Investors Emerge, Bitcoin Gets Ready for Its Close-Up

Burgess COMMENTARY
This is my response to Matt, Jonathan and Jem:

Peter Burgess
April 11, 2013 8:25 PM
to matthew, jcloud, jem.bendell

Dear Matt

Thanks for forwarding this ... interesting.

In our conversation yesterday, I think I made reference to the 'bubble' that seems to have enveloped Bitcoin. I based my observation on the run up in the 'price' of the Bitcoin, but had not seen any article about it. I think I suggested that the reason for the bubble price was a supply side problem, something determined by some sort of computer calculation, and not enough Bitcoins to satisfy demand. This article explains the price bubble as being a result of people in the market taking positions and pushing up demand side activity. Put another way, I see the problem as Bitcoin having its 'size' determined by market forces without reference to real world economic activity. In other words, it is going the same way as mainstream money!

I have a lot of work to do before I will be able to articulate clearly the idea that a currency ... that is, in its role as a medium of exchange, should (1) have a fixed size, and (2) should be sufficient to allow all meaningful economic activity to take place.

With regard to a fixed size, I remember being taught in engineering about all the technology behind a standard meter, so that the standard for length was always the same, no matter what. Length does not change when temperature changes nor when the number of cars travelling down the road changes. I cannot remember having the same discussion during my learning of money in economics.

With regard to sufficiency of money ... I want to argue that there should be sufficient of the medium of exchange and 'credit' so that all economic activity that delivers a positive social valuadd can be undertaken. This, of course, requires a system of metrics that can handle the idea of social valuadd in a reliable way. The business community and banks have embraced money profit accounting as a way to do the metrics of money, and credit is extended based on money profit projections. A complementary currency will create new credit to facilitate economic activity that is going to show a social valuadd, and that should be the limit. The size of a unit of complementary currency stays the same.

Lots more to talk about ... but not now. Thanks for the article

Peter

This is the reply from Jonathan:
Relevance of this Alternative currency?
Jonathan Cloud
Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 8:33 PM
To: matthew polsky
Cc: jem.bendell@cumbria.ac.uk, Peter Burgess , 'Victoria L. Zelin'

Hi Matt:

This is certainly not what I have in mind. I believe the new currency that the world needs is one that is designed to trade public rather than private goods, based on the value of the goods or services in measurably improving the sustainability of ecosystems.

As far as I can tell, Bitcoin is designed to facilitate conventional commerce. The basis for issuing bitcoins — solving mathematical riddles — is not something that is inherently productive or useful.

I have written a paper on 'creating sustainable value' by issuing an alternate currency, with a complementary or offset value to the damage being done to the biosphere today. By compensating people to do restorative work, put the currency in circulation, and work to have it accepted alongside our conventional money, I believe we can alter the balance back toward a state of ongoing harmony with nature.

This is clearly the most important global transformation today. It requires as much of a change in the way we think about the world as the Renaissance or the Enlightenment. We have the scientific knowledge, ecological awareness, and social technologies to awaken ourselves and the rest of humanity to a new possibility. This new possibility is one that gives us the capacity to respond as a species level to the challenges that are now facing our 'spaceship Earth' and engage in a permaculture redesign process both our local and and our global communities.

I believe that the sort of alternate currency I've described is part of this redesign: it's a medium through which to transact what's currently being left out of the equation. Bernard Lietaer writes:

Even some of the more simple complementary currency systems can empower people. The use of these monetary tools allows many more people to participate in exchanges, and provides a richer connectivity among the constituents of an economy. Complementary currencies thereby serve to prod the overall system back towards more sustainability.

Complementary currencies improve the resilience of the whole economy by providing greater diversity in exchanges; they enable transactions that otherwise wouldn't occur, through connections that otherwise wouldn't exist.

This is exactly the problem we face today with regard to the mainstream economy: there's not enough money in the right places doing the right things, and there aren't the right connections between those who have the money and those who need it to actually make a sustainable economy work. We have an economy which fails to serve the needs of a growing majority of people and damages the life-support systems of humanity and misallocates resources, capital, and human labor in a great many ways.

There are of course many efforts under way to reform or refocus the mainstream economy, such as social impact bonds, or credit exchanges, or locavesting, and these are all important. What I'm suggesting actually uses elements of all of these: exchanging credit, investing in a new future that will preserve the commons while reducing public expenditures, and restoring economies at a community level—it just seeks to recognize these in a way that enables a regenerative economy to grow up alongside the existing degenerative one. [Quoted text hidden] My best regards,

Jonathan Cloud Institute for Sustainable Enterprise Fairleigh Dickinson University http://fdu.edu/ise jcloud@fdu.edu College at Florham M-MS1-05 285 Madison Avenue, Madison, NJ 07940 Office 908-396-6179 ~ Cell 908-581-8418 ~ Fax 908-842-0422

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Bendell, Jem
Apr 12 (1 day ago)
to matthew, jcloud, me

There are so many problems with the monetary system that each innovation is positive and limited in various ways. Its not a simple equation. I explain my approach in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWeQfNpW9sQ


From: matthew polsky [mailto:innovator3@hotmail.com]
Sent: 12 April 2013 06:34
To: jcloud@fdu.edu; Bendell, Jem; peterbnyc@gmail.com
Subject: Relevance of this Alternative currency?

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Relevance of this Alternative currency?

matthew polsky
Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM
To: 'jcloud@fdu.edu' , 'jem.bendell@cumbria.ac.uk' , 'peterbnyc@gmail.com'

Jem/Jonathan/Peter:

I assume this is not what you have in mind?

Any relevance, though?

Matt


NYT

April 11, 2013, 3:11 pm

As Big Investors Emerge, Bitcoin Gets Ready for Its Close-Up

By NATHANIEL POPPER and PETER LATTMAN

Cameron and Tyler Winklevoss have been many things in a short time: Olympic rowers. Nemeses of Mark Zuckerberg. Characters on “The Simpsons.” Now they can add a new label: bitcoin moguls.

The 31-year-old identical twins have amassed since last summer what appears to be one of the single largest portfolios of the online currency that has caused such a stir in financial and technology circles.

An array of speculators have now bid up the price of the bitcoin to the point where the outstanding supply of the digital money was worth $1.3 billion at last count. The Winklevii — as they are popularly known — say they own nearly 1 percent of that, or some $11 million.

The decision by the brothers to go public with their position signals a new stage for what has been an experimental alternative to national currencies. Created in 2009 by a programmer or programmers known only by a pseudonym, the bitcoin world has been dominated by anonymous programmers and traders.

Now mainstream investments in the digital money are starting to emerge. On Thursday, a group of venture capitalists, including Andreessen Horowitz, announced that they were funding a bitcoin-related company, OpenCoin.

Other Silicon Valley venture firms, while not holding bitcoins, are starting to show interest in the technology. Tim Draper of the firm Draper Fisher Jurvetson put money into CoinLab, which is doing bitcoin-related projects. Tribeca Venture Partners announced this week that it was putting money into Coinsetter, a start-up trading platform for the currency.

Bitcoin is the new new thing but the question is whether it will end up in the same dustbin as Dutch tulips and Pets.com, or, as its backers believe, turn into a disruptive technology with the potential to revolutionize the global payments system.

The perils have been obvious over the last two days, as bitcoin has gone through its most volatile stretch ever, sinking from a high of $260 a bitcoin to a low of $105, before ending Wednesday around $175. On Thursday it was down again to $120 when one of the major online exchanges called a 12-hour halt on trading. The volatility has raised questions about whether bitcoin can even be called a currency.

“It’s not something I’d want to be involved in or have any investors’ money involved with,” said Steve Hanke, a professor specializing in alternative currencies at Johns Hopkins University. “To say highly speculative would be the understatement of the century.”

But the 6-foot-5 Winklevii were unfazed by the latest tumult. Indeed, the brothers said they used the low prices to buy more. They argue that bitcoin will have much further to soar once a broader audience sees its virtues: a unit of exchange that can be moved around the world at the click of a button without requiring any payments to Western Union or American Express.

“People say it’s a Ponzi scheme, it’s a bubble,” said Cameron Winklevoss. “People really don’t want to take it seriously. At some point that narrative will shift to ‘virtual currencies are here to stay.’ We’re in the early days.”

Other champions of bitcoin also believe that it could mark a new chapter in the history of money.

“Three eras of currency,” Chris Dixon, a partner at Andreesen Horowitz and well-known technology investor, recently wrote on a personal Web site. “Commodity based, e.g., gold; politically based, e.g., dollar; and math based, e.g., bitcoin.”

For those whose idea of money still involves greenbacks and metal coins, bitcoins do not exist in any explicit physical form. The creators wrote algorithms that allow only a finite number of bitcoins to be created — the count is currently around 11 million — with new coins “mined” by programmers who solve mathematical riddles. The coins can then be bought and sold through upstart exchanges, and held in what are known as virtual wallets.

So far, few real companies accept bitcoins as payment, and the primary place they can be used is an online bazaar, known as Silk Road, where narcotics are the main wares for sale. But the currency’s believers see a future in which Starbucks and Amazon take bitcoins. For their part, the Winklevoss twins have used some of their bitcoin to pay for the services of a Ukrainian computer programmer who has worked on the site of their venture capital firm.

While bitcoin has amassed a cult following since its beginnings, it has set off a frenzy in recent weeks as the price spiked to $260 per bitcoin early Wednesday after trading at $35 at the beginning of March. Some of the credit for this surge is given to the banking crisis in Cyprus, which raised some questions about the viability of the euro currency.

“We have elected to put our money and faith in a mathematical framework that is free of politics and human error,” Tyler Winklevoss said.

Bitcoin is far from the first bet the brothers have made on an emerging technology. As students at Harvard College, the twins founded a social networking site, ConnectU, and enlisted their schoolmate, Mark Zuckerberg, to help them build the company. After Mr. Zuckerberg went off to start Facebook, the brothers sued him, accusing him of stealing their idea — a story that was dramatized in the movie “The Social Network.” The case was settled with the brothers being given $20 million in cash and Facebook shares that are now worth over $200 million.

They have parlayed that fortune into Winklevoss Capital. Their first two investments were in Hukkster, a start-up shopping Web site and SumZero, an online community for professional money managers.

The brothers began dabbling in bitcoin last summer when the dollar value of a single coin was still in the single digits. In addition to the purchase of bitcoins, they also say they have invested in a bitcoin-related company, but declined to disclose which one. The currency itself exists as a string of letters and numbers. In order to keep their holdings secure from hackers, they have taken those codes off networked computers and saved them on small flash drives. They said they have put the drives in safe deposit boxes at banks in three different cities.

It’s hard to verify how the Winklevoss holdings compare with other bitcoin players given the anonymity of accounts, and the twins believe that some early users of the system probably have holdings that are at least as large.

A Maltese company, Exante, started a hedge fund that the company says has bought up about 82,000 bitcoins — or about $10 million as of Thursday — with money from wealthy investors. A founder of the fund, Anatoli Knyazev, said his main concern is hackers and government regulators, who have so far mostly left the currency alone.

These investments were all in an uncertain state on Thursday after the big price swings and the shutdown of trading on Mt. Gox, a Japan-based company that claims to handle 80 percent of all bitcoin trades. Mt. Gox said in a statement that the problems were a result of the currency’s popularity, making it impossible to process all the incoming orders. It added that it was not the victim of hackers but “instead victim of our own success!”

The Winklevoss brothers said that this week’s chaotic trading are only “growing pains” like those seen by other young technologies, and not enough to scare them away.

“It has been four years and it has yet to be discredited as a viable alternative to fiat currency,” said Tyler Winklevoss. “We could be totally wrong, but we are curious to see this play out a lot more.”

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