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MANAGEMENT METRICS
CARBON ASSET MANAGEMENT (CAM)
Dialog with Danielle Lippe about Carbon Asset Management (CAM), an initiative of the Greener Gateway in the UK

Open Carbon Management and Reporting Flyer

Open Carbon Asset Management (MAP) flyer

Peter Burgess COMMENTARY (January 2023)
It is about 10 years ago that this dialog took place. There was no follow up at that time, but the notes suggest that I was quite interested in what was being developed by the Carbon Asset Management (CAM) group.
I have not been able to find current information about the people involved a decade ago ... but will try again.
Peter Burgess

Dialog with Danielle Lippe

Peter Burgess
Transitioning to Green
5 messages
theredpanda@optonline.net
Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:09 PM
To: peterbnyc@gmail.com

Hi Peter,

It was a pleasure seeing you again at Transitioning to Green. I'm attaching some information about my company's carbon management software. The first document is the company flyer and the second is a powerpoint document. The software is ISO 14064 certified and it's already being used in 46 countries. We have a free presentation with additional information about our carbon management software that we run through WebEx. It's an interesting presentation so I highly recommend checking it out. If you like what you see I can put you in touch with Neil Aremband, the company manager for more information.

Best,

Danielle Lippe

2 attachments
Carbon Management and Reporting Flyer.pdf 559K
The Efficiency Tool Box_10022013.pdf 429K

Peter Burgess
Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:40 PM
To: theredpanda@optonline.net

Dear Danielle

Thank you for sending me this material. I am very much looking forward to studying it ... and I very much appreciate your offer of putting me in touch with Neil Aremband, the company manager. Presumably he is based in the USA .,.. or is he part of the UK team.

Please remind me if you don't hear from me by the middle of next week.

All the best

Peter
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theredpanda@optonline.net
Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:07 PM
To: Peter Burgess

No problem Peter. Neil is based in Harrow, UK. Take your time. I'll get in touch with you at the end of the week.

Best,

Danielle

theredpanda@optonline.net Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 11:06 PM To: Peter Burgess

Hi Peter,

Hope your week went well. Just wanted to follow-up with you on the carbon management software material I sent you. Please let me know what you think at your earliest conveinence.

Best,

Danielle

Peter Burgess
Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM
To: theredpanda@optonline.net

Danielle

Thank you for getting back to me.

I am not sure how much you know of what I am doing with TrueValueMetrics. Let me try to summarize in a few words:

I am impressed with the state of knowledge in science and technology at this point in the 21st century. We know things that could enable the world to be better now and into the future than at any time in human history ... by a mile.
So, what is it that explains why world is so 'screwed up' with many, if not most, thinking that the future is going to be worse than it is now.
I have concluded that the main reason is that the 'incentives' for decision making are all about me, and ignore everything else. It is all about short term, if not immediate, and ignores the future
The prevailing metrics reflect this orientation ... money profit accounting for organizations, money measures of wealth (stock market prices) and GDP growth being some of the most visible ones.
The good news is that there are people who recognize that these metrics are inadequate, and there are hundreds, if not thousands, of initiatives to introduce better metrics. Some of these initiatives go back 20 years or more, others are more recent, but there is no question that better metrics are going to be in play.
I see problems with many of the new initiatives. Among these problems is the weakness that they are difficult to integrate into the core decision making that is done by C-level executives, and difficult to communicate to the investment community.
I became an accountant (about 50 years ago) after training as an engineer because I realized that all the big decision were driven by the financial results. I was a good CFO because I knew that good 'numbers' were the result of good technical decisions in product design, marketing and factory production ... not by 'fiddling the books'.
But I am also enough of an economist to know something of the links between the decisions made by business and the state of society, the state of the community, the state of the environment. The problem is that there are no metrics about this that flow from the level of an 'economic activity' to the C-level executives, the board of directors and the investment community,
Another problem with the metrics that we need is that they are somewhat technical in their characteristics. This is necessary but also results in them being relegated to technical level analysis which usually means the C-level decision makers will never see them.
The goal of TrueValueMetrics is to modernize money profit accounting that that there is a 'valuadd' dimension integrated into the accounting and the reporting. 'Valuadd' is my shorthand for the results of value flows arising from economic activities, and currently ignored by C-level decision makers.

I think you get the idea.

Now with regard to The Efficiency Tool Box, Greener Gateway and Carbon Asset Management (CAM ... how does this fit in with my TrueValueMetrics initiative, what you want to do, and what I may be able to do. My thinking is that

I would like to help in any way possible to promote the use of the software planning in the USA. I am not good at 'sales' but fairly good at something that might be called 'strategic positioning'.
I would like to work on creating an appropriate interface and linkage from these tools into the architecture of TrueValueMetrics.

What should be the next step?

Peter Burgess

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